2016 Racing Rumours

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1/5/2016 11:39pm Edited Date/Time 1/5/2016 11:40pm
We interrupt this thread of random speculation with a special announcement
1/6/2016 12:18am
LTrumpore wrote:
We interrupt this thread of random speculation with a special announcement
Dont even think about ruining this thread with your so called "facts".
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1/6/2016 12:43am
Dont even think about ruining this thread with your so called "facts".
I think he's the only one with actual insight in this thread right now!
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1/6/2016 1:19am Edited Date/Time 1/6/2016 1:22am
The question is how much did Gwin want for 2016 .... Specsh Then go an sign Another 3 good riders ...Is This is slap in Gwins face ? $$$$$$$$$
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1/6/2016 1:24am
nvb101 wrote:
The question is how much did Gwin want for 2016 .... Specsh Then go an sign Another 3 good riders ...Is This is slap in Gwins...
The question is how much did Gwin want for 2016 .... Specsh Then go an sign Another 3 good riders ...Is This is slap in Gwins face ? $$$$$$$$$
I think it is just business tbh :D
1/6/2016 1:39am
It's official! Bruni, Vergier, and Iles will be riding Specialized bikes for 2016!

From Specialized:

Jan 6, 2016
Specialized will partner with Pure Agency in 2016 to form a new Specialized Gravity Team, supporting the 2015 World Champion Loic Bruni, Junior 2014 Junior World Champion Loris Vergier and first year junior Finn Iles on the UCI World Cup circuit. The team will all be racing aboard Specialized bikes and select equipment pieces next season.

Troy Brosnan will remain and star on the Specialized Racing Factory team, a separate set up, but with the same ambition.

Loic Bruni had this to say about the change, “I'm really excited about changing rigs for many reasons, and it gives me coherence in the way I see my career. The team and I have worked hard during the past few years to reach a high level. We have all ambition and we are all able to deliver really professional work while still having fun. I was really seduced by joining such a big family. The brand already has a great history, and I'm excited about being part of it—it's always been a dream. Reaching this step is a big satisfaction for me and the team, it is what we need and we know Specialized is the right partner for new things. I'm looking forward to ride well with my Rainbow Jersey and the Demo, of course, I'll try to do great stuff with it. We are already working on the bike and tires to be ready for the season 2016 that is promised to be a blast.”

"I've been with the team since I started on the World Cup circuit, and I always thought that it was almost perfect, with good friends, good atmosphere, and good sponsors. And now, a dream came reality, riding with the biggest brand in the world with still the same crew is an amazing opportunity that I'm really proud of. Really excited for the future!” - Loris Vergier

“2015 was in many ways our best season yet," said Benno Williet, Team Manager for Specialized’s Factory MTB programs. "The overall structure of the team finally came together and the results the guys achieved on the race course really backed that up. At the end of the season, we bid farewell to Aaron Gwin after an awesome season, but at the same time, we look forward to the future and are excited to be supporting more riders than ever before. Between Troy on our Factory Team, and then also Loic, Loris, and Finn, four of the very best riders in the world will board a Demo at the highest level of completion. It is a youthful, super talented roster throughout, so it is safe to say the future is bright!"

“This, my second year in the team (Pure Agency), is going to be exciting. I am super happy to be continuing on with such a good group of guys. Last year was an awesome experience, to see how well the team worked together blew my mind. With this upcoming year being my first year of racing junior, I am honored to have such an amazing brand behind my back. I think this is an amazing opportunity, and I can't wait to see what the future holds. Heading to California in January to link up with everyone is something I'm really looking forward to!" - Finn Iles

With a full team presentation to follow in early 2016, Loic, Loris, and Finn will rely on the radical S-Works Demo 8 carbon downhill race frame with single-sided seatmast as well as Specialized 2FO shoes and full complement of Downhill Tires.

“I was really proud to work with our partners, and in the eight years, we created something really special, but when we had first contact with Specialized, we felt that it was time to move. The opportunity was unique, because we had the chance to keep the same working process with same staff and riders. They understood that a good result is not just a good athlete or the best bike, but also a great atmosphere, where everybody in the team is able to make his own contribution to perform. To be honest, we also had another good financial offer, a higher one, but it was definitely a different way of work, and it was not the first choice of the key guys in the team. When the boys tested the bike, it confirmed everything. We have the feeling, too, that R&D is really strong and all details are well thought on the bike. One last detail, but maybe the most important detail in our decision: Loic and I received a personal message from M. Sinyard, and I don’t know a lot of bosses who are involved like this in Sports Marketing. It showed us how the company is passionate about DH and racing. We really appreciated this.” - Laurent Delorme - Pure Agency Manager



1/6/2016 1:52am
nvb101 wrote:
The question is how much did Gwin want for 2016 .... Specsh Then go an sign Another 3 good riders ...Is This is slap in Gwins...
The question is how much did Gwin want for 2016 .... Specsh Then go an sign Another 3 good riders ...Is This is slap in Gwins face ? $$$$$$$$$
Note that Specialized are not building a whole new team here or "signing another 3 good riders", they are stepping in as frame and equipment sponsor for an existing team. There are other sponsors to help carry the load in this case.
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1/6/2016 2:06am
I wonder who gave the other offer, canyon?
1/6/2016 2:45am Edited Date/Time 1/6/2016 2:47am
Seems that all my predictions were spot on, where can i get my price money ?

2016 Racing Rumours 10/26/2015 10:24 PM
Mongool Cuypers wrote:
Some "In the Look for" team pissed the "Hole in the mountain" off and now Loic is ending up riding with the eScobar and together with a system of down under guy.
Gwin is Chad Reed, riding a bike as a bike, Why he drinks Tea, but with outside sponsors who eat oranges and has cattle. (canyon pissed gravity off... down under guy was graves who allready SPecialized now...Gwin....you will see :-)

2016 Racing Rumours 9/27/2015 10:33 PM
Dutch Peanutbutter will Be spread on a Belgian GT waffle (Anneke loves peanutbutter and GT manager is Belgian)

2016 Racing Rumours 9/20/2015 5:24 AM
If gwin doesn't eat the trek budget the atherthons will, as trek is gluten free which wasnt the case with cube Bruni and vergier will have baguettes with barel (Trek : athertons)


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1/6/2016 7:16am
nvb101 wrote:
The question is how much did Gwin want for 2016 .... Specsh Then go an sign Another 3 good riders ...Is This is slap in Gwins...
The question is how much did Gwin want for 2016 .... Specsh Then go an sign Another 3 good riders ...Is This is slap in Gwins face ? $$$$$$$$$
iceman2058 wrote:
Note that Specialized are not building a whole new team here or "signing another 3 good riders", they are stepping in as frame and equipment sponsor...
Note that Specialized are not building a whole new team here or "signing another 3 good riders", they are stepping in as frame and equipment sponsor for an existing team. There are other sponsors to help carry the load in this case.
But Gwin also had a bunch of other sponsors; big ones too. It had to be less about money and more about structure. i.e. ownership.
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1/6/2016 8:24am
In order for Gwinn to come up with a number, he must have had an offer from another company before opening his mouth, so he probably came up to specs asking to match, and they said no, so he said bye
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1/6/2016 10:24am
If Aaron could see all this he would think we are so weird
1/6/2016 10:26am
csermonet wrote:
If Aaron could see all this he would think we are so weird
What makes you believe he's not seen this....
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1/6/2016 10:29am
Oh I'm positive that he has
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1/6/2016 11:23am
csermonet wrote:
If Aaron could see all this he would think we are so weird
tweedlove_ wrote:
What makes you believe he's not seen this....
At least we know YT has.



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1/6/2016 11:32am
Burned
1/6/2016 11:38am Edited Date/Time 1/6/2016 11:45am
csermonet wrote:
Burned
(misunderstood, sorry)
1/6/2016 11:41am
They are nprobably working on a clip to release at the same time as the announcement
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1/6/2016 11:41am
csermonet wrote:
Burned
tweedlove_ wrote:
(misunderstood, sorry)
I meant the yt post completely dodging the Sunday guys question
1/6/2016 1:08pm Edited Date/Time 1/6/2016 1:09pm
This + this = this?

No insider info, just speculation. If KTM is a big-time (title?) sponsor of his program, I can't see how he could use another brand's frames - specifically, why on earth a bike brand would want to share branding with a competitor (KTM bikes are rare here, but go to Eurobike). KTM doesn't currently have a DH bike, but it would still be a brand communication nightmare. Sure, there was a time when everyone was riding badge-engineered Intense M1s, but times have changed. Even if KTM moto and KTM bike are separate companies, the outward brand ID is the same. If I were a bike co. boss I wouldn't want my star rider's kit and bike plastered with a competitor's logo.

So I see three possible scenarios:

Gwin is gonna ride something else entirely (big industry sponsors plus a frame deal), keeping his little KTM deal on the side

Gwin is gonna ride for "big" KTM and they're doing a Honda-esque R&D project (ie no plans to produce his bike)

or

Gwin is gonna ride for KTM bike + moto jointly, both divisions contributing (plus other sponsors, TLD, Red Bull, etc.)

...this is fun... and honestly the only big sponsorship shake-up I don't have insider info on. Smile

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