Grips Question

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Jonzilla
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12/23/2018 9:12am
Mr. P wrote:
I've been off lock-ons for years. Lock-ons have a dirty secret, the hard plastic core that runs under the entirety of the grip. IME this makes...
I've been off lock-ons for years. Lock-ons have a dirty secret, the hard plastic core that runs under the entirety of the grip. IME this makes for a very firm grip as there is not much room left for padding. Some riders like firm grips, and that is great, it's not an issue for them, but I want a grip that dials down vibration and has a touch of give when riding hours in chunky terrain.

Lock-ons are great for the convenience of swapping out grips or bars, and staying in place (but I've not had a non-lock-on throttle).

I've settled in on ESI grips as my go to as I have big hands and like big grips as they have a "chunky" version.
I've been thinkin this due to getting numb hands after around 5 miles on my trail bike.I've tried shorter stem, bars forward/back, thick grips thin grips hard/soft but I still get the numbness (the stem change from 50 down to 35 did help a little bit) only thing I havent tried is slip ons. I'm thinking without the plastc core contacting the bar and more rubber they must have more vibration dampening.....
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R-M-R
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12/23/2018 6:12pm
Jonzilla wrote:
I've been thinkin this due to getting numb hands after around 5 miles on my trail bike.I've tried shorter stem, bars forward/back, thick grips thin grips...
I've been thinkin this due to getting numb hands after around 5 miles on my trail bike.I've tried shorter stem, bars forward/back, thick grips thin grips hard/soft but I still get the numbness (the stem change from 50 down to 35 did help a little bit) only thing I havent tried is slip ons. I'm thinking without the plastc core contacting the bar and more rubber they must have more vibration dampening.....
A lot more! I used ODI Ruffian Lock-Ons for a year on my DH bike and ended up with a little nerve damage. Switched to ESI Chunky and the pain went away, but the friction wasn't great. Tried Oury push-ons and I could nearly hear the choir of angels when I wrapped my hands around them.
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12/23/2018 6:24pm Edited Date/Time 12/23/2018 6:27pm
AGR97 wrote:
A question for push on wire users, where do you snip the wire? I’m keen to try push ons but worried worries the end on the...
A question for push on wire users, where do you snip the wire? I’m keen to try push ons but worried worries the end on the wire will be sharp somewhere if I ride gloveless
Big Bird wrote:
Wire tie pliers are sweet, you should get some. They have locking jaws to hold the wire, a spinny thing to twist it tight, cutters to...
Wire tie pliers are sweet, you should get some. They have locking jaws to hold the wire, a spinny thing to twist it tight, cutters to trim it to about 3-4mm and a neat little flat tip to bend the twisted wire over back into the grip so the sharp bits aren't pointing out. Just for good measure, make your twists an a part of the grip that's the least likely to be a pressure point on your gripping hand.
The pliers exist for a reason! I'm sure the fancy ones are nice if you're an aerospace technician who safety wires screws all day, but a sub-$20 model is adequate for occasional grip mounting.

You can put the cut end anywhere; if you do it properly, it won't be a problem. Here's how to be extra safe:

Put your hand on a grip and note where your hand is not contacting the grip. If you're uncertain, use an old grip and trace your hand with a felt pen - or use the new grip if you don't mind the pen marks. Sometimes you may wrap your hand farther forward on the grip (ex. when standing to climb), but rarely will you wrap your hand backwards from your neutral position. You've now established the safest places to put the wire ends.

As Big Bird said, cut the twisted end moderately short, give it a little curve, and tightly fold the cut end back to bury the sharp end into the grip.
KiloMike
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12/23/2018 9:33pm
KiloMike wrote:
Renthal with 3m deck tape underneath to prevent slipping and add bar diameter. 4 years running, zero complaints. Use old lock on ring on the inside...
Renthal with 3m deck tape underneath to prevent slipping and add bar diameter. 4 years running, zero complaints. Use old lock on ring on the inside to prevent grips from sliding towards the brake levers.

What is 3mm deck tape, is it like skateboard grip tape?


To get them on use the Sensus tip and stick a big handful of zip ties in the grip, slide the grip over the bar and then pull the zip ties out.
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Suns_PSD
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12/24/2018 6:33am
Glued and wired on Renthal Kevlar grips and wouldn't have it anyway else.
12/24/2018 8:28am
Im running sensus grips with no lockon. used alcohol and compressed air to get them on my carbon bars. no slip. no mess. no worries
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12/26/2018 2:54am
Renthal kevlar are my favorite so far
with just hairspray and 24h before anny ride
so far so good
Aceman
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1/8/2019 7:21am
Years ago I loved the idea of lock-ons from a bike mechanics standpoint and bought into it myself. But man, were those things HARD!

I had a custom paint job done on one of my bikes, and the shop I worked at had just received a ton of ODI Longnecks. One pair matched my bike right on, so I threw them on "just for a day or two till they fall off". My GOD! They were SO comfortable it was redicoulous! They lasted 2 seasons I think. 10 years later and all my bikes still use them. There might be others, but these work great for me. (I've had 3 carpal tunnel surgeries).

I've never seen grips wired on before. Interesting. Doesn't the wire cut through the grip? Otherwise it seems like it wouldn't be tight enough.?

But I don't really see them just falling off mid ride. I just blow them on with the air compressor. I tried glue just because in the early 2000's, but it seemed like it just got pushed off.
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R-M-R
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1/8/2019 8:08am Edited Date/Time 1/8/2019 8:09am
Aceman wrote:
Years ago I loved the idea of lock-ons from a bike mechanics standpoint and bought into it myself. But man, were those things HARD! I had...
Years ago I loved the idea of lock-ons from a bike mechanics standpoint and bought into it myself. But man, were those things HARD!

I had a custom paint job done on one of my bikes, and the shop I worked at had just received a ton of ODI Longnecks. One pair matched my bike right on, so I threw them on "just for a day or two till they fall off". My GOD! They were SO comfortable it was redicoulous! They lasted 2 seasons I think. 10 years later and all my bikes still use them. There might be others, but these work great for me. (I've had 3 carpal tunnel surgeries).

I've never seen grips wired on before. Interesting. Doesn't the wire cut through the grip? Otherwise it seems like it wouldn't be tight enough.?

But I don't really see them just falling off mid ride. I just blow them on with the air compressor. I tried glue just because in the early 2000's, but it seemed like it just got pushed off.
Re: Wires cutting into the grip

I worried about that, too, but it happens only if you use a super thin wire and really crank 'em down. The wire generally won't damage the grip if the wire is at least as thick as regular dental floss, even if it's tight enough to be deeply sunk into the grip.

Re: ODI Longnecks

Yep, nice grips. Medium diameter, fine mushroom ribs: a classic design that's hard to beat. If you ever want to get crazy and try something else - and you don't need the full length of the Longneck - I find Oury grips to be the most comfortable and ODI's Cush model is super soft and tacky.
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1/9/2019 1:38am
I’ve just gone push on and went odi longneck with hairspray and wired on. So much nicer than my death grips (which I really liked) on my hands. Wanted renthal super tacky but no stock and didn’t want to wait but will get a set for the dh rig / spair. Was thinking of rev grips but hard to justify the cost, have heard good things tho.
AlexBe
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I've been running sensus grips for years. But what did you end up buying? Just curious.

GA902
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8/12/2023 7:26am
AlexBe wrote:

I've been running sensus grips for years. But what did you end up buying? Just curious.

Went with some ESI grips. So far I love them. I don't get to ride as much as I used to, but feel like they really help reduce arm pump since they have a bit of give. My only complaint is durability. Did some early season riding in crested butte and did a bit of bush wacking around some water crossing and had a couple rips from trudging through some bushes. Turns out, what I thought was the water crossing was actually the trail 😂

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8/14/2023 12:46pm Edited Date/Time 8/16/2023 2:55pm
AlexBe wrote:

I've been running sensus grips for years. But what did you end up buying? Just curious.

So, you're eyeing those non-lock on grips, huh? I get it – sometimes you wanna ditch the locks to get that pure, unadulterated feel. The idea's pretty solid – those lock-ons can make things sturdier, but you're after that raw connection with the bars, right? If you've gone for the switch, spill the beans – how's it been treating you? What's your go-to choice? And hey, if you're into optimizing your ride, you might wanna peep this quietkat customer service. They might have some insights or tips that could elevate your grip game even more. Here's to finding that perfect grip – comfort, control, and all the good feels!

8/14/2023 3:00pm Edited Date/Time 8/14/2023 3:01pm

I've been using Renthal ATV grips, it's the only half waffle grip I could find as a slip on. The standard renthal grips loose texture too quickly. I ride gloveless so I like the texture. They're quite a bit smaller than a normal MTB grip but they work for me. I never understood why moto grips are so much smaller, everyone that gets on my bike is like "your grips are tiny" -IDK guys seem to be able to hold on for 30+ 2 so I can probably ride a 3-4min downhill

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