Michelin Wild enduro vs Maxxis assegai/dhr2

carterlindblom
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Hey everyone, looking to try something different after I wear out my Maxxis tires. Right now I’m running assegai maxx grip DD casing front, and a dh casing dhr2 maxx grip rear. I’m interested in the Michelin’s because of their weight. The assegai I run in the front weighs around 1400 grams, and the wild enduro supposedly is around 1000 grams. Does anyone have insight about how the casings and compounds compare? I’m hard on wheels and tires and like to have a durable tire. I also run cushcore front and rear.

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Dave_Camp
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7/24/2020 9:43am
I ran a set of the Michelins- never managed to flat them and was expecting to because they were so much lighter than Double Downs or Schwalbe Super Gravity... I think mine weighed 960 Front and 1100? Rear.

Raced on them at Snowmass Big Mountain Enduro- pinged the front hard a few times (had cushcore in the back). Also took them to Moab for 3 days and ran into a lot of rocks.

They roll slow but so do Assegai/DHR2 (esp Maxxgrip). The rear tire wore out pretty fast (wore crazy fast in Moab). But they are really good on rock/roots.

I would definitely buy them again- I think they are cheaper ($49 on Jenson!) and as you said lighter than Maxxis equivalents.

FYI I regularly flat Maxxis DD casing at both ends of my bike.
7/24/2020 10:09am
I find that the grip on the michelins is better the cornering grip is insane. However, because of this they wear out very fast. As well I have managed to slash the sidewall in two places on the rear tire. I think I will try out there new DH tires as I am very hard on tires.
7/24/2020 10:24am
I've not had the best experience with Michelins. I found the side walls pretty crap and I got a fair few tears. The wall/bead interface is also quite weak and prone to tearing and leaks if running tubeless. Of the 6 michelin tyres (3 different riders) on our trip, all of them suffered similar problems and no one else running maxxis/schwalbe did.

Add on the stupidly quick wear rate and the not much above average grip, I'd not recommend them (especially if you are hard on tyres). I think in total they lasted 2 months before they needed to be replaced, so their cheap price is a bit of a false economy.
skidrow85
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7/24/2020 2:03pm
Switched about 2 months ago from the DHF to the Wild Enduro GumX 3D (harder compound then MagicX) up front and never going back. The cornering grip is crazy almost scary how much quicker and farther inside you can dive it into a corner, be it flat, berm, loose, the grip is there. I have a DHR on the back not worn out by any means, with the WE up front it made it feel like the DRH was a semi slick. I will be swapping the rear out also for the WE shortly.

Another plus that you notice right away is the off camber performance, it hooks up so well I'm not worried about loosing the front end at all but the back has definitely stepped out on me a few times going through those sections of trail.

I ride every weekend for 3-4 hours and haven't noticed much wear at all. Haven't really noticed a difference in rolling resistance either.
therock911
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7/25/2020 9:45am
I recently just made the switch to Wild Enduro's front/rear from Assegai/aggressor. I will say the weight and grip are above maxxis but depending on the terrain you ride. Softer terrain these wild enduros will grip quite a bit better. But if you ride hard packed rocky area's they will wear quite a bit quicker and grip is about the same imo. I recently just did a trip to Santa Cruz, Shasta enduro race, and Mammoth and put on brand new wild enduros, logged about 130 miles of riding and a couple front side knobs have ripped up and rear is pretty chewed up already. The harder compound side lugs usually cause them to rip after a while but great for traction on softer terrain. Never had that problem with maxxis. Id say it depends all on the terrain you ride if its worth it. Shasta and mammoth are not the nicest on tires as my friends with maxxis had noticeable wear as well but not as bad as the wild enduros.
therock911
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7/25/2020 9:49am
Can anyone speak on the casing compared to maxxis double down?
I would say the front is in between exo and exo+ and rear is inbetween exo+ and DD. I will say i did not have any issues with punchures or anything for that matter. I am running and insert in the back though which id reccomend if your coming from DD and DH maxxis casing. Imo the benefits from inserts allow you to run thinner casing. I'm a 200lbs expert rider so pinch flats were becoming too common for me.
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7/25/2020 1:15pm
I tore the sidewall on the rear on the 5th ride. I live on the front range of Colorado and ride 3-5x a week, for dry rocky terrain the front tire wore way faster than any tire I’ve ever owned. Early on in the spring when dirt was damp and tacky I couldn't recommend them enough, but sidewall durability and how fast they worn once the dirt became loose over hard I am moving on from them. But If your trail conditions aren’t hardpack and rock they may last longer.
airwreck
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7/25/2020 11:31pm
Can anyone speak on the casing compared to maxxis double down?
Thinner casing for sure, very large knobs so the sidewall had to shed some weight. I've had the rock'r 2 with the gravity shield casing and it's obvious the new wild enduro's don't have this. If you're looking for a more of a hard pack tire the rock'r 2 is good one, the 2.35 size is big. I went from a 2ply shorty to the wild enduro's, the michelin's felt squirmy on the hard pack but is fun in the loose raw. I didn't like that rear wild enduro, not interested in faster rolling sacrificing control.
Skerby
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7/27/2020 7:02am
I have ridden both combos exensively, used maxxis DD front back, now wilds front back.

The wilds are harder to flat than the DD maxxis, but they don't offer as much sidewall support. Hard to believe they are more reliable, but they have proven themselves in my experience.

I've been running the wilds for almost a year now, and have worn out a front and 4 rears. I went cushcore a couple weeks ago and Im never going back.

Wilds + cushcore is the ultimate pnw combo in my experience. Only issue: Loose over hard, or other genuinely very dry conditions. I say maxxis if you ride mostly dry and michelin if you ride mostly slop and hero like myself.
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codahale
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7/31/2020 11:10am
Poleczechy wrote:
I tore the sidewall on the rear on the 5th ride. I live on the front range of Colorado and ride 3-5x a week, for dry...
I tore the sidewall on the rear on the 5th ride. I live on the front range of Colorado and ride 3-5x a week, for dry rocky terrain the front tire wore way faster than any tire I’ve ever owned. Early on in the spring when dirt was damp and tacky I couldn't recommend them enough, but sidewall durability and how fast they worn once the dirt became loose over hard I am moving on from them. But If your trail conditions aren’t hardpack and rock they may last longer.
This was my experience with them up in Fort Collins, too. They hooked up great in spring and then the instant things dried out, the tread evaporated. I got ~175mi out of them. I’m back to my Assegai/DHR2 combo.

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