Biking injuries

john197
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Hello all have any of you experienced a crash yet being older like a Shoulders, Arms, knees, whatever happened to you can you explain how long it took you to heal it yourself? I have went to the doctors and all they seem to do is want to operate on you.. I recently went over the handle bars on my Fatboy bruised my ribs and quad area and my arm. I don't think it is serious , i think i would be in serious pain if it was. i can not raise my arm yet but it is stiff some what
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6/16/2015 12:39pm
I'm not really old yet, only 31 years young but I've already noticed lingering injuries the past 5 years or so. Seperated my shoulder about 7 years ago, which now pops when I rotate it. Same with my knee walking down stairs, pops every stair. Wrists, finger and ankles too... It takes me a bit longer to get back on the bike after a good crash. I used to bounce up and keep riding, now I'm pretty much one and done depending on how bad it is. I'd say healing time has almost doubled over the past ten years for sprains, bumps and bruises. Broken bones have always healed about the same rate... 4-8 weeks.
Welcome to the forum, btw! Keep shredding! I know plenty of 45+ riders still killing it.
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6/16/2015 1:01pm
Thanks @dhgnar! yes the Pain is longer and sometimes now and then you get pains from just sitting as you get older! I have learned as the age thing keeps changing for me, that there is nothing we can do about this. I love the woods and when i am riding it brings back times when i was killing it on a BMX bike as a child! I use to hit some Big jumps! NOW these crashes that i have are like "" what the hell was that"" I never even saw this log sticking out it was a huge trail, all night i was killing the trails then all the sudden BAM... sux Smile but yes get on the horse again! I remember once i took my 7 year old out and i found some motorcycle trails that lead down to a huge jump! and rocks below , i told him you stay here i will show you something very cool! Well my tire dug into the sand rock landing and i crashed, i got up and i told him wait... im not done yet i can do this, i went and did it again! CRASH.. i said Hold on wait by this time i am bleeding from the rocks! My son was saying ""stop dad! "" This is a true story! so long story short i did this 5 times, what a idiot i am , i never landed that jump! hahaSmile
6/16/2015 6:51pm Edited Date/Time 6/16/2015 6:52pm
hey john, im 47 and ive been racing and riding D.H. for about 18 years.. like dhgnar said, it takes a while to bounce back,ESPECIALLY AT MY AGE !!!!.. ive also separated shoulders ( BOTH)...broken my back,( RACING MOTO X), broken ribs on both sides, smashed ankles and wrists, and i also have 5 concussions !!!! AGAIN, this is in a span of 18 years.. everyone heals at a different rate and obviously depends on the severity of the injury !!!!!! to this day my shoulders STILL bother me !!!!! in time your injuries will heal.. crashes are inevitable !!!! heres hoping you bounce back quickily from alllll of them bro !!!!!!!
6/16/2015 7:00pm
and DONT let an injury stop you what you love to do !!!!!! HOPEFULLY IT WONT !!!!!!! TAKE IT FROM ME. i ride more aggresive now than i did many years ago, and reseparated one of my shoulders last summer ( AGAIN) and it took SOOOOO much longer to heal now... yes, its frustrating, but i STILL keep riding as much as i possibly can !!!!! i gotta stop clipping trees for fuck sake !!!!!!!! HA HA HA .. KEEP ON RIDING BRO !!!!!!!!!!
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6/16/2015 7:14pm
WOW cool, you guys are great, this is funny something is wrong with me i was down by my bike this evening , i was talking it to it and yelled at for throwing off of her! I said now your gonna get it i am gonna kick your ass as soon as i can more aggressive i will be! hahah, wow i think i have lost it , talking to my bike now! It was a strange night before i crashed i felt like or sensed that something was going to happen! I am a wait lifter too, not your average looking rider, i weigh in at 235 H5.9 i just wanted to ride to get down in weight too, maybe 200 would be great!
6/16/2015 7:41pm
hey john, its completely normal to talk and yell at your bike !!!!!!!! my bike ALWAYS gets the upper hand tho !!!! HA HA HA HA .. shit, youre a BIG dude !!!!!! YOU CAN DO IT !!!!!!!!
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6/16/2015 8:13pm
I do talk to my boat too, so i guess i am strange hahaha
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6/18/2015 10:30am Edited Date/Time 6/18/2015 10:42am
Hey everyone I am 45 now. In 09 i had a pretty bad concussion and broken collar bone while dirt jumping, healed pretty quick and came back and rode like it never happened then parked that bike for almost a year. I rode dh and trail for that year and then Valmont bike park opened went out and had a great time. I then realized i could go out and have good time without pressing the progression button. I no longer live in CO but still ride dj about once a week along with dh and trail when i can. I have also been skateboarding vert and pool since the mid eighties, I have had 2 knee surgeries due to skating, ACL reconstruction and a cleanup, I don't heal as fast as i used to but I just can't stop. I hope to ride well into my 50s, staying healthy will be the key. Ride on everyone. Funny note Vital mod bturman was present at crash posted above.
6/18/2015 10:58am
Ruptured AC - Level 5 in 2005 at Mini Dream Track in Queenstown, that's the biggest time off injury I have had, 6 months full recovery, sore shoulder, no surgery. 95% functionality now. I went to the Orthopedic Surgeon for the All Blacks when that happened, for free, and he said no good operation for that type of injury.

Dec, 2014 Massive high speed OTB onto my neck, thought I broke it, by myself in Santa Cruz. MRI negative. Didn't rest it at all and kept riding. Had a major spell of vertigo after that for about 5 days, straight up face down on the couch until I needed to use the bathroom, then would literally stumble to the bathroom. It was crazy. Once all that subsided I realized my sternum/rib interface was really painful. Can't even do push-ups. Went to dr., went to physio for 3 weeks, nothing helped. Got an x-ray, turned out negative. Just got Cortisone injections last week in the chest area. I have been off the bike for 2 months, the ribs are a pain in the ass and really never heal 100%, especially if you keep using them...

I am 31 and all of my nagging injuries are noticeable. I was always easily fit, never really had to work out or stretch up until I hit 30. Rest, Ice, stretching, cross training, all very important I have started to realize. I am signing up for yoga to see if that helps.

Also, crashing is part of it, and if you see the big pros go down hard, you realize they have so much muscle and are prepared for it in much different ways than we are. Take Gee, he is the poster boy for being able to leverage your muscle to withstand massive crashes. He is an absolute tank.

Hoping to get back on the bike within the next month, but starting a cross training rehab program now that i have rested from the cortisone shots. I think base fitness and proper stretching are essential to good rehab, also rest and ice on the ribs, there is no good solution. Finding a smart physical therapist who understands sports injuries is essential. There is no way my shoulder would be at 95% had I not gone to leading PTs after my injury.
6/18/2015 11:05am
I got 16 years of riding, mostly DH and racing, apart of broken cervical vertebra's in 2010 and few broken ribs 2007 I never had bad crashes. I was snowboard personal trainer and never suffered bad crash for 7 years. I believe im a bomb proof or just stacked to a clean style of riding and never attempt things when I'm not certain or confident . Well as the time goes by my confidence overwhelmed the recklessness and crazy riding.
So far at 39 now im still on the bike more digging than riding but i do enjoy racing even at veteran class i do my best and never crash Smile I hope i ll be able to ride with my friends forever Smile at least i hope so ...
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6/18/2015 11:16am
the crustier and older i get, the more focusing on staying limber seems important. i know this is nothing new, but it's something i'm trying to finally apply since i had a pretty shitty experience w/ my back going out (non-bike related). when my back went out, i was stuck on the floor for 24 hours, could barely move without electrifying pain and had to piss in my toddler's training toilet b/c i couldn't stand up. my wife couldn't help me move at all b/c it always backfired in ridiculous pain. i was pretty worried. i had to drag myself, army-crawl-style into the back of my minivan (took like 20 painful minutes to get 15 feet). i laid face down in the back of the van and got painfully wheel-chaired into the ER (i swear the nurse hit every crack she could find along the way LOL). i finally got some significant drugs to help my pain and muscles relax and i got to the chiropractor (my choice, having good experiences w/ them in the past). that was about a month ago.

low-intensity, but longer-duration stretches of key muscle groups for my particular injury have been helping me a bunch. using a foam roller has too. the biggest thing for me (w/ my particular back problem) is laying on a tennis ball. it's mind-blowing how much it's like a personal masseuse that can focus on key spots of tightness. i can be stiff as a board and spend 5 minutes using the tennis ball in key spots on my back and i loosen right back up. it's not comfortable doing it, but i'm helped greatly by it. w/ the stretches, icing, some chiropractic help and foam roll/tennis ball, i was able to be off the pain meds/muscle relaxers in 2 days and i've now been back on the bike twice in the last couple days (taking it easy, but still out there just a month later). since i feel good now, the hard part is keeping up the stretching before getting into my daily routine. when i was jammed up, i couldn't sleep well anyway, so i'd be stretching at 5am.

for impact injury, icing bruised areas asap has always been something i've heard for helping healing.

personally, i've always done best (regardless of age) if i have a decent warm-up. if i go straight into a hard ride, i feel more blown out after compared to when i've had 15 mins on a road/flat trail before to get the blood flowing. seems even more important as i get older.

nothing new here, just my personal experiences and stoked to hear from others.
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6/18/2015 11:27am
@hittheshowers, that's gnarly about your vertigo! after my 3rd chiropractic treatment after my back injury, i came home and got off the meds. if i looked to the right really hard, my head would spin so bad i couldn't stand up. like i was doing a 1080. i've never experienced anything like it and it made me barf once LOL. i thought it was detox'ing from the drugs i was on.

the problem was way better the next morning but not totally gone. i went back to chiropractor and he seemed to think it was my neck being out of alignment. i got "cracked" as normal and i never experienced it again. he thought he could feel the right "crack" happen when he tweaked on my neck.

chiropractor may not be for everyone, but it's helped me. seems like there are the "ambulance chaser" kind of chiropractors and then legit ones, some emphasizing on active/sports patients. maybe worth a shot if you haven't tried? ask some fellow riders?
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6/18/2015 12:59pm
Hi John, cool Post. Funk if you Are ohne of the elderlies and riding hard. I do Road Racing, CC ( Less in the Last years) and lots of Enduro. My private Training Park is just 200 Outsider my home. Injury Balance : broken cheekbone/middle Face multiple Time rips Brüssel and broken, broken elbow, broken shoulderbone, broken shoulderbone ( Last ohne 6 Monte ago) . Headline gest harder, but you Never want to miss the für. So keep on riding hard and keep got contact to doctors
6/18/2015 1:07pm
sspomer wrote:
@hittheshowers, that's gnarly about your vertigo! after my 3rd chiropractic treatment after my back injury, i came home and got off the meds. if i looked...
@hittheshowers, that's gnarly about your vertigo! after my 3rd chiropractic treatment after my back injury, i came home and got off the meds. if i looked to the right really hard, my head would spin so bad i couldn't stand up. like i was doing a 1080. i've never experienced anything like it and it made me barf once LOL. i thought it was detox'ing from the drugs i was on.

the problem was way better the next morning but not totally gone. i went back to chiropractor and he seemed to think it was my neck being out of alignment. i got "cracked" as normal and i never experienced it again. he thought he could feel the right "crack" happen when he tweaked on my neck.

chiropractor may not be for everyone, but it's helped me. seems like there are the "ambulance chaser" kind of chiropractors and then legit ones, some emphasizing on active/sports patients. maybe worth a shot if you haven't tried? ask some fellow riders?
Haven't really come across many people with the vertigo. It is fine now but it was totally shit. Especially since that 5 days was spent at the rental house in Santa Cruz for vacation where I planned on riding every day.

I go to a DO, Dr. of Osteopathy, and they do adjustments on spine, head, neck, ribs, etc. It helps but sometimes you just mess up the little calcium deposits in your inner ear that keep your balance. Vertigo causes are a big mystery in the medical world, they really have no way of telling what's goin' down.

Good news is it is not prevalent anymore.

Ice, rest, realizing you aren't in your 20s anymore, and stretching.
6/18/2015 1:28pm
Gnarly. Hopefully he fully recovers from that.

You can also get paralyzed, maimed, and die from mtn biking as well. I definitely respect the gravity, rocks and trees a bit more after crashes that I can walk away from. Lots of people aren't so lucky, including pros like Tara and Matti as well as passionate advocates like Matt Klee. I tend not to belittle the real consequences of when blasting down trails goes wrong.
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6/18/2015 1:45pm
sspomer wrote:
@hittheshowers, that's gnarly about your vertigo! after my 3rd chiropractic treatment after my back injury, i came home and got off the meds. if i looked...
@hittheshowers, that's gnarly about your vertigo! after my 3rd chiropractic treatment after my back injury, i came home and got off the meds. if i looked to the right really hard, my head would spin so bad i couldn't stand up. like i was doing a 1080. i've never experienced anything like it and it made me barf once LOL. i thought it was detox'ing from the drugs i was on.

the problem was way better the next morning but not totally gone. i went back to chiropractor and he seemed to think it was my neck being out of alignment. i got "cracked" as normal and i never experienced it again. he thought he could feel the right "crack" happen when he tweaked on my neck.

chiropractor may not be for everyone, but it's helped me. seems like there are the "ambulance chaser" kind of chiropractors and then legit ones, some emphasizing on active/sports patients. maybe worth a shot if you haven't tried? ask some fellow riders?
You think if I twist your back and then we go get on some carnival rides, we could get those symptoms to return?

I've never seen you puke. Let's have some fun!
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6/18/2015 2:11pm
Welcome to the club! I can relate to all of you. I used to consider myself un breakable. I would get up from crashes, dust myself, check my bike, get on it and continue. Now at 51 pains linger for a longer time. Last year I had a fall jumping somewhere in the Upper Flume trail near Breckenridge, CO. Took me longer than normal to get up. Rode for two more days. The pain lingered for longer than the usual 4 to 5 days. Three months later I decided to go to the sports medicine doctor, who after X-rays and MRI told me I had a broken rib and humerus and a detached rotator cuff (Labrum). He offered to operate the rotator cuff but gave me no warranties of a 100% recovery. He also added that for optimum recovery I needed close to a year off the bike. So here I am, riding with my detached rotator cuff. Some days it feels good, others it feels like crap.
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6/18/2015 3:18pm
Hi everybody.
I'm 48 and on January I've flown over the bar landing with my right arm on a rock. Result: head of radius completely smashed.
The orthopedist decided that my original elbow was not repairable and replaced it with a brand new prosthesis made of some metal (maybe Volverine's adamantium).
After 6 months I've still some difficulties in extending and flexing my arm... honestly: I can't extend it completely unless someone slowly and strongly push it down and I have to struggle a lot to touch my right ear with my right hand.
Anyway now I'm back on my bike, trying to regain confidence with trails without worring to much of falling again.
Not so bad except for steep slopes, where it hurts a little (maybe more than a little) whenever I plant too much the hand on the grip.
Ah! In any case now I ever wear elbow pads Smile
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6/18/2015 3:29pm
Speed kills. At least injures. For me, the vector of speed corresponds directly with the severity of injury. Sounds simple, but it took me a while, and many injuries, and lots of $$$ to figure this out.

So I had to change my riding from pinning to flowing, don't take the race bait, ride within myself, and max at 80%, not the previous 110% (which was 10% over my skill level, ha ha).

And no racing.

All of this has reduced my once a year broken something injury rate to almost nothing.

Collar bone, ribs (x??), ruptured tendon, wrist, broken back (but still came in 1st!!! stupid.), but the final straw was impailing my handlebars 6cm into my groin (a la Cedric Gracia)

I love this sport too much to be forced to stop, I'm in it for the long haul. So if I have to slow down a bit, I'm ok with that. I'm not competing for the front of the pack, but I am loving flowing the trail and popping off everything in sight rather than mowing it over.

"Riding fast is a hell of a drug" - Rick James
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6/18/2015 3:34pm
sspomer wrote:
@hittheshowers, that's gnarly about your vertigo! after my 3rd chiropractic treatment after my back injury, i came home and got off the meds. if i looked...
@hittheshowers, that's gnarly about your vertigo! after my 3rd chiropractic treatment after my back injury, i came home and got off the meds. if i looked to the right really hard, my head would spin so bad i couldn't stand up. like i was doing a 1080. i've never experienced anything like it and it made me barf once LOL. i thought it was detox'ing from the drugs i was on.

the problem was way better the next morning but not totally gone. i went back to chiropractor and he seemed to think it was my neck being out of alignment. i got "cracked" as normal and i never experienced it again. he thought he could feel the right "crack" happen when he tweaked on my neck.

chiropractor may not be for everyone, but it's helped me. seems like there are the "ambulance chaser" kind of chiropractors and then legit ones, some emphasizing on active/sports patients. maybe worth a shot if you haven't tried? ask some fellow riders?
Haven't really come across many people with the vertigo. It is fine now but it was totally shit. Especially since that 5 days was spent at...
Haven't really come across many people with the vertigo. It is fine now but it was totally shit. Especially since that 5 days was spent at the rental house in Santa Cruz for vacation where I planned on riding every day.

I go to a DO, Dr. of Osteopathy, and they do adjustments on spine, head, neck, ribs, etc. It helps but sometimes you just mess up the little calcium deposits in your inner ear that keep your balance. Vertigo causes are a big mystery in the medical world, they really have no way of telling what's goin' down.

Good news is it is not prevalent anymore.

Ice, rest, realizing you aren't in your 20s anymore, and stretching.
I had vertigo from a hard crash on the cruiser coming home from the bar. A continuing theme of my own stupidity. Ha Ha.

The vertigo part is scary as fuck.

YouTube has videos of physical therapist showing the movements of the head to get the crystals back into the proper part of the ear canal.

I followed the video and it instantly solved my vertigo.

"Knowing is half the battle. Yo Joe!!!!"
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kidwoo wrote:
You think if I twist your back and then we go get on some carnival rides, we could get those symptoms to return? I've never seen...
You think if I twist your back and then we go get on some carnival rides, we could get those symptoms to return?

I've never seen you puke. Let's have some fun!
at first i thought the vertigo was kinda funny, thinking it was coming off the meds. then after an hour or so when it went from 360 to 720 to 1080 to whatever the kids do in the xgames now, it sucked and made me feel gross. then i barfed. just put me in the van w/ stevie bathrooms and i'll probably puke again.
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6/18/2015 3:45pm
thinking about the gnarly bone break injuries posted here makes me want to puke too.
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6/18/2015 4:12pm
Wow that is crazy stuff that has happened to some of you! So no surgeries? I cant believe how the body heals it self still today, my arm is still not right but its getting better, since last Thursday!
6/18/2015 5:40pm
After reading peoples lingering injuries also being missed w/ no doctor visits, I'm now blaming that on my lingering pains, not age. I've missed a broken elbow, finger, hand, ribs and separated shoulder... all of which still give me problems.
Funny story about vertigo. I've only had one concussion (go figure...) and it was non-biking related (go figure X2). Tripped on the rug in my bedroom and slammed my head on my closet door. Doc said I shattered those balance crystal things in my ear and I was spinning for almost two weeks. That's not so funny, but hitting my head on my closet door is.
6/18/2015 5:57pm
After reading peoples lingering injuries also being missed w/ no doctor visits, I'm now blaming that on my lingering pains, not age. I've missed a broken...
After reading peoples lingering injuries also being missed w/ no doctor visits, I'm now blaming that on my lingering pains, not age. I've missed a broken elbow, finger, hand, ribs and separated shoulder... all of which still give me problems.
Funny story about vertigo. I've only had one concussion (go figure...) and it was non-biking related (go figure X2). Tripped on the rug in my bedroom and slammed my head on my closet door. Doc said I shattered those balance crystal things in my ear and I was spinning for almost two weeks. That's not so funny, but hitting my head on my closet door is.
DUDE VERTIGO SUCKS !!!!!!!! mine comes and goes every once in a great while.. sorry to hear how it happened !!!! one time i walked into my closet door in the middle of night ( i swear i was sleepwalking ) and heard aLOUD CRUNCH. it was my nose ...woke me right the fuck up !!!!!! needless to say i broke it... HA HA HA ..
6/18/2015 5:59pm
After reading peoples lingering injuries also being missed w/ no doctor visits, I'm now blaming that on my lingering pains, not age. I've missed a broken...
After reading peoples lingering injuries also being missed w/ no doctor visits, I'm now blaming that on my lingering pains, not age. I've missed a broken elbow, finger, hand, ribs and separated shoulder... all of which still give me problems.
Funny story about vertigo. I've only had one concussion (go figure...) and it was non-biking related (go figure X2). Tripped on the rug in my bedroom and slammed my head on my closet door. Doc said I shattered those balance crystal things in my ear and I was spinning for almost two weeks. That's not so funny, but hitting my head on my closet door is.
my vertigo only bothered me when i was lying down... SCARY SHIT. spins and WICKED nausea !!!!
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6/19/2015 8:32am
Hi John197. I had a serious crash two years ago at age 56. I completely severed the two ligaments that attach the collar bone to the acromion (a shoulder bone) - same injury Jay Clementz suffered last year. I spent a couple of weeks in excruciating pain, being barely able to sleep. After about a month I was feeling better and I then started a physiotherapy, religiously doing the daily set of exercises recommended by the physio. Within a couple of months I has regained full strength and flexibility and could start riding as if nothing had happened. The only souvenir is my collarbone points up in the shoulder creating a bump. That may not look too nice but I don't care about aesthetics - as long as I can ride I am happy. The other factor you shouldn't neglect is that when you restart riding you might a bit nervous, which in turn increases the risk of crashing. Just take it a step at a time. Your radness will be back, don't worry. Have a good recovery. Hope this helps. Vinyl56.
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6/19/2015 8:45am
It is amazing how many of you are not talking about the doctor visits , i am really antsy here to get back out there, i did do a lap around my neighbor hood the other day, i felt every movement from the pavement . Today i am hurting again my ribs and arm not to much the shoulder it like

the Brachialis is where my pain is the most at! I thought by me lifting weights like i do would shorted the injury , well i use to lift a lot more maybe i really need to get back into this since i am riding in the woods again! LOL

6/19/2015 2:13pm
28. Been riding DH for about 10 years. Definitely feel the hits a bit more. Separated shoulder hurts now. Ankles creak.

After I hit the ground hard now, I usually just lay there look at the sky and have a temporary existential moment.

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