Yeah, I go up for 4-6 days of riding every year and have for the last 5 years, so I have a decent idea of what...
Yeah, I go up for 4-6 days of riding every year and have for the last 5 years, so I have a decent idea of what to expect. From the sounds of it, conditions are worse this year then all of the past years I've been up there. Last year I was running a 180mm 38 with a v1 smashpot with a 45lb spring and I was pretty happy with it... but I had been riding a bunch before hand and was feeling really good. That will not be the case this year... I already realize I'm going to have to dial my expectations back... and I suppose that's the answer. Stick with the known commodity and adjust myself as necessary... I guess I'm just grasping at straws for how to ensure I have a good trip this year, and I guess the answer is that I'm the one that controls that, not some equipment change.
I just did my first trip there ever last week and I was a bit overwhelmed by how much bigger and faster everything was compared to...
I just did my first trip there ever last week and I was a bit overwhelmed by how much bigger and faster everything was compared to the other bike parks I’ve been to lmao
Im on a Nomad 7 Fox 38 X2 with a Telum and thats the first time I’ve ever felt under-gunned on an enduro bike. I can’t speak to historical conditions but the brake bumps were plentiful and firm.
I guess if you want to talk yourself into new gear you can but I can’t see how a USD fork would improve the situation over your current setup. I’d maybe consider renting a DH bike because at a certain point there’s no replacement for displacement.
Yeah, the first few time I went to whistler I had the same feeling. Now that I've been up there a handful of times, I feel comfortable on my enduro bike but that's mostly because I know what to expect. This train of thought is mostly happening because I had the same hunch of renting a dh bike for the trip, and then realized that means an 800 dollar rental bill. That started to push me into the place of weighing 800 bucks to rent a bike... vs spending money on my own bike to fix the situation.
Honestly, my 38 with a smashpot did pretty well last year hammering through braking bumps. The key difference is that I never have hand or arm pump issues limiting my riding and I'm a bit concerned about having that happen this year. I think I'll suck it up and roll with my current setup and see what happens... I did also just ping my lbs about if I can get a manitou dorado in time...
Yeah, the first few time I went to whistler I had the same feeling. Now that I've been up there a handful of times, I feel...
Yeah, the first few time I went to whistler I had the same feeling. Now that I've been up there a handful of times, I feel comfortable on my enduro bike but that's mostly because I know what to expect. This train of thought is mostly happening because I had the same hunch of renting a dh bike for the trip, and then realized that means an 800 dollar rental bill. That started to push me into the place of weighing 800 bucks to rent a bike... vs spending money on my own bike to fix the situation.
Honestly, my 38 with a smashpot did pretty well last year hammering through braking bumps. The key difference is that I never have hand or arm pump issues limiting my riding and I'm a bit concerned about having that happen this year. I think I'll suck it up and roll with my current setup and see what happens... I did also just ping my lbs about if I can get a manitou dorado in time...
You’ll be fine, ride yer damn bike. Conditions are bumpy and blown on the fast stuff but they are always bumpy and blown. Just go ride tech in the woods if you don’t want to rattle your fillings out.
As a follow-up to my questions earlier in this thread, I ended up getting a flash 38 with 20mm axle (was debating between a flash/infinity/dorado). I...
As a follow-up to my questions earlier in this thread, I ended up getting a flash 38 with 20mm axle (was debating between a flash/infinity/dorado). I decided I didn't want to pedal a dual crown around; mostly out of fear of being a "poser" if I wasn't sending everything in sight.
I'm stoked on my choice. The flash is insane. Broke it on a week-long trip to Squamish and Whistler. It started off butter-smooth; after a day and a half, it somehow got even better. I did feel some torsional flex a couple times - once when landing a jump awkwardly, and possibly in a fast smooth berm (but also could have been my radial magic mary?). Otherwise, it handled steep slab, fast chunky rock, roots, etc beautifully.
The fork feels more supportive than my mezzer, while offering a much more comfortable ride. Was it worth the price difference? Hard to say but I don't regret buying it at this point.
Dang the places you ride.. hahaha my flash 38 will be ridden on mellow home trails for the most part.. some steeps sections.. but the 35 always felt a bit squirmy for my personal taste.. also it had the old internals so it is going to be nice to ride the latest and greatest use fork on the market no pun intended for the other brands.
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As a follow-up to my questions earlier in this thread, I ended up getting a flash 38 with 20mm axle (was debating between a flash/infinity/dorado). I...
As a follow-up to my questions earlier in this thread, I ended up getting a flash 38 with 20mm axle (was debating between a flash/infinity/dorado). I decided I didn't want to pedal a dual crown around; mostly out of fear of being a "poser" if I wasn't sending everything in sight.
I'm stoked on my choice. The flash is insane. Broke it on a week-long trip to Squamish and Whistler. It started off butter-smooth; after a day and a half, it somehow got even better. I did feel some torsional flex a couple times - once when landing a jump awkwardly, and possibly in a fast smooth berm (but also could have been my radial magic mary?). Otherwise, it handled steep slab, fast chunky rock, roots, etc beautifully.
The fork feels more supportive than my mezzer, while offering a much more comfortable ride. Was it worth the price difference? Hard to say but I don't regret buying it at this point.
Dang the places you ride.. hahaha my flash 38 will be ridden on mellow home trails for the most part.. some steeps sections.. but the 35...
Dang the places you ride.. hahaha my flash 38 will be ridden on mellow home trails for the most part.. some steeps sections.. but the 35 always felt a bit squirmy for my personal taste.. also it had the old internals so it is going to be nice to ride the latest and greatest use fork on the market no pun intended for the other brands.
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Yeah, I go up for 4-6 days of riding every year and have for the last 5 years, so I have a decent idea of what...
Yeah, I go up for 4-6 days of riding every year and have for the last 5 years, so I have a decent idea of what to expect. From the sounds of it, conditions are worse this year then all of the past years I've been up there. Last year I was running a 180mm 38 with a v1 smashpot with a 45lb spring and I was pretty happy with it... but I had been riding a bunch before hand and was feeling really good. That will not be the case this year... I already realize I'm going to have to dial my expectations back... and I suppose that's the answer. Stick with the known commodity and adjust myself as necessary... I guess I'm just grasping at straws for how to ensure I have a good trip this year, and I guess the answer is that I'm the one that controls that, not some equipment change.
I just did my first trip there ever last week and I was a bit overwhelmed by how much bigger and faster everything was compared to...
I just did my first trip there ever last week and I was a bit overwhelmed by how much bigger and faster everything was compared to the other bike parks I’ve been to lmao
Im on a Nomad 7 Fox 38 X2 with a Telum and thats the first time I’ve ever felt under-gunned on an enduro bike. I can’t speak to historical conditions but the brake bumps were plentiful and firm.
I guess if you want to talk yourself into new gear you can but I can’t see how a USD fork would improve the situation over your current setup. I’d maybe consider renting a DH bike because at a certain point there’s no replacement for displacement.
Yeah, the first few time I went to whistler I had the same feeling. Now that I've been up there a handful of times, I feel...
Yeah, the first few time I went to whistler I had the same feeling. Now that I've been up there a handful of times, I feel comfortable on my enduro bike but that's mostly because I know what to expect. This train of thought is mostly happening because I had the same hunch of renting a dh bike for the trip, and then realized that means an 800 dollar rental bill. That started to push me into the place of weighing 800 bucks to rent a bike... vs spending money on my own bike to fix the situation.
Honestly, my 38 with a smashpot did pretty well last year hammering through braking bumps. The key difference is that I never have hand or arm pump issues limiting my riding and I'm a bit concerned about having that happen this year. I think I'll suck it up and roll with my current setup and see what happens... I did also just ping my lbs about if I can get a manitou dorado in time...
I don't imagine it'll be world changing, but you could also bump your fork up to 180mm to buy a little extra cushion. I think the Vorsprung V2 kits ship with everything you need to bump up the travel.
As a follow-up to my questions earlier in this thread, I ended up getting a flash 38 with 20mm axle (was debating between a flash/infinity/dorado). I...
As a follow-up to my questions earlier in this thread, I ended up getting a flash 38 with 20mm axle (was debating between a flash/infinity/dorado). I decided I didn't want to pedal a dual crown around; mostly out of fear of being a "poser" if I wasn't sending everything in sight.
I'm stoked on my choice. The flash is insane. Broke it on a week-long trip to Squamish and Whistler. It started off butter-smooth; after a day and a half, it somehow got even better. I did feel some torsional flex a couple times - once when landing a jump awkwardly, and possibly in a fast smooth berm (but also could have been my radial magic mary?). Otherwise, it handled steep slab, fast chunky rock, roots, etc beautifully.
The fork feels more supportive than my mezzer, while offering a much more comfortable ride. Was it worth the price difference? Hard to say but I don't regret buying it at this point.
Dang the places you ride.. hahaha my flash 38 will be ridden on mellow home trails for the most part.. some steeps sections.. but the 35...
Dang the places you ride.. hahaha my flash 38 will be ridden on mellow home trails for the most part.. some steeps sections.. but the 35 always felt a bit squirmy for my personal taste.. also it had the old internals so it is going to be nice to ride the latest and greatest use fork on the market no pun intended for the other brands.
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Dang the places you ride.. hahaha my flash 38 will be ridden on mellow home trails for the most part.. some steeps sections.. but the 35...
Dang the places you ride.. hahaha my flash 38 will be ridden on mellow home trails for the most part.. some steeps sections.. but the 35 always felt a bit squirmy for my personal taste.. also it had the old internals so it is going to be nice to ride the latest and greatest use fork on the market no pun intended for the other brands.
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Squirmy in way that feels like the front wheel is a bit soft.. steering feels like it is not that sharp.Dtswiss 240 and 15mm axle.Weight 90kg.-----------------------Need...
Squirmy in way that feels like the front wheel is a bit soft.. steering feels like it is not that sharp.
Dtswiss 240 and 15mm axle.
Weight 90kg.
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Squirmy in way that feels like the front wheel is a bit soft.. steering feels like it is not that sharp.Dtswiss 240 and 15mm axle.Weight 90kg.-----------------------Need...
Squirmy in way that feels like the front wheel is a bit soft.. steering feels like it is not that sharp.
Dtswiss 240 and 15mm axle.
Weight 90kg.
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I switched from the Edge to the 38, and the difference in lateral stiffness is pretty significant. Of course, the added weight is noticeable too—it took...
I switched from the Edge to the 38, and the difference in lateral stiffness is pretty significant. Of course, the added weight is noticeable too—it took me a little while to get used to it. But I don't notice it anymore, not even on sharper, more technical sections. It goes exactly where I point it, without hesitation
I'm using a 15mm axle. The fork isn't fully broken in yet. The action isn't quite as buttery-smooth as my older Edge, but I'm sure it will loosen up. I have the medium spacer installed, so it's more progressive, which suits me well. Stiffness is perfect; it performed great yesterday at the bike park on the more aggressive DH trails. I think it stays higher in its travel compared to the Edge.
I'm using a 15mm axle. The fork isn't fully broken in yet. The action isn't quite as buttery-smooth as my older Edge, but I'm sure it...
I'm using a 15mm axle. The fork isn't fully broken in yet. The action isn't quite as buttery-smooth as my older Edge, but I'm sure it will loosen up. I have the medium spacer installed, so it's more progressive, which suits me well. Stiffness is perfect; it performed great yesterday at the bike park on the more aggressive DH trails. I think it stays higher in its travel compared to the Edge.
Sounds good. So compared to Edge you find it more stable and direct than edge?
Better steering responding better to rider input than edge?
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Definitely. It’s more precise. It’s also more stable thanks to the extra weight—like a tank
The Edge is a bit more playful, while the 38 is for the rough stuff in the bike park. But I got used to the 38 quickly, even on tight, technical trails where you really have to work the bike. The only thing was that on the first ride, it kept pushing me wide in corners—probably due to the weight difference—but you adapt fast.
Definitely. It’s more precise. It’s also more stable thanks to the extra weight—like a tank :) The Edge is a bit more playful, while the 38...
Definitely. It’s more precise. It’s also more stable thanks to the extra weight—like a tank
The Edge is a bit more playful, while the 38 is for the rough stuff in the bike park. But I got used to the 38 quickly, even on tight, technical trails where you really have to work the bike. The only thing was that on the first ride, it kept pushing me wide in corners—probably due to the weight difference—but you adapt fast.
About 550g heavier than edge so you will probably feel it. It is only about 200g heavier than the flash 35 so I will most likely not notice the weight.
Thanks for your feedback. Can't wait to send it on my new drop.
Squirmy in way that feels like the front wheel is a bit soft.. steering feels like it is not that sharp.Dtswiss 240 and 15mm axle.Weight 90kg.-----------------------Need...
Squirmy in way that feels like the front wheel is a bit soft.. steering feels like it is not that sharp.
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Weight 90kg.
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Good article, I had Gemini read the article and then I asked if the 240 is good enough hub;
20x110mm Boost Hub: You must ensure your hub is a "20mm Boost" (20x110mm) version. Many high-end hubs, including the DT Swiss 240, offer swappable end caps. You can simply purchase the 20mm end cap kit for your DT 240 to make it compatible with your Flash 38.
Focus on Bearing Quality: Since you aren't relying on a specialized "Torque Cap" interface for stiffness, your focus shifts entirely to the hub’s internal tolerances and bearing health. The DT Swiss 240 remains a top-tier choice here because its internal axle sleeve and bearing alignment are extremely precise, which prevents any "play" that would otherwise cause your fork's bushings to bind.
Heheh
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Good article, I had Gemini read the article and then I asked if the 240 is good enough hub;20x110mm Boost Hub: You must ensure your hub...
Good article, I had Gemini read the article and then I asked if the 240 is good enough hub;
20x110mm Boost Hub: You must ensure your hub is a "20mm Boost" (20x110mm) version. Many high-end hubs, including the DT Swiss 240, offer swappable end caps. You can simply purchase the 20mm end cap kit for your DT 240 to make it compatible with your Flash 38.
Focus on Bearing Quality: Since you aren't relying on a specialized "Torque Cap" interface for stiffness, your focus shifts entirely to the hub’s internal tolerances and bearing health. The DT Swiss 240 remains a top-tier choice here because its internal axle sleeve and bearing alignment are extremely precise, which prevents any "play" that would otherwise cause your fork's bushings to bind.
Heheh
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Good article, I had Gemini read the article and then I asked if the 240 is good enough hub;20x110mm Boost Hub: You must ensure your hub...
Good article, I had Gemini read the article and then I asked if the 240 is good enough hub;
20x110mm Boost Hub: You must ensure your hub is a "20mm Boost" (20x110mm) version. Many high-end hubs, including the DT Swiss 240, offer swappable end caps. You can simply purchase the 20mm end cap kit for your DT 240 to make it compatible with your Flash 38.
Focus on Bearing Quality: Since you aren't relying on a specialized "Torque Cap" interface for stiffness, your focus shifts entirely to the hub’s internal tolerances and bearing health. The DT Swiss 240 remains a top-tier choice here because its internal axle sleeve and bearing alignment are extremely precise, which prevents any "play" that would otherwise cause your fork's bushings to bind.
Heheh
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First with the link to every comment, then “reading” an article with ai and asking if your hub is good or not completely missing the point,I...
First with the link to every comment, then “reading” an article with ai and asking if your hub is good or not completely missing the point,
I guess AI is just helping people being dumber at this point
So what is a good a hub these days for usd fork, the article did not say or recommend this? No need to start calling people dumb, not a mature way to go in that route.
Just for reference I got the point of article without AI:s help. So the pinch bolts and binding is something that I have not done on the past..Will need to remember that in the future. Also as the article said. "Ultimately, no single hub architecture is universally optimal" so my 240 is good to go😁
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So what is a good a hub these days for usd fork, the article did not say or recommend this? No need to start calling people...
So what is a good a hub these days for usd fork, the article did not say or recommend this? No need to start calling people dumb, not a mature way to go in that route.
Just for reference I got the point of article without AI:s help. So the pinch bolts and binding is something that I have not done on the past..Will need to remember that in the future. Also as the article said. "Ultimately, no single hub architecture is universally optimal" so my 240 is good to go😁
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DT-Swiss is making phenomenal hubs but they are not a design that is the best for USD-Forks. I ride a EXT Vaia on my Park bike and a NON+ Hub with 15mm axle on FR 541 Rims. Works much better than a 350 with a 20mm axle on the exact same rim. This is because of the axle design inside of a hub. DT-Swiss has a „shorter“ bearing axle and the Endcaps make up for the actual with. Phenomenal design for modularity but not the first choice for a fork that is missing one crown and you need to choose a hub to make up for steering precision. Nobody here is saying a 240 isn’t a good hub, it’s just not the best choice for a USD Fork.
AI can be great, hence the added picture, even if not fully accurate. But it can only be as precise as your question. „good“ is a very loose term. A different axle design is not going to turn a noodly Shiver in to a FOX 40 from nowadays but it is definitely noticeable!
So what is a good a hub these days for usd fork, the article did not say or recommend this? No need to start calling people...
So what is a good a hub these days for usd fork, the article did not say or recommend this? No need to start calling people dumb, not a mature way to go in that route.
Just for reference I got the point of article without AI:s help. So the pinch bolts and binding is something that I have not done on the past..Will need to remember that in the future. Also as the article said. "Ultimately, no single hub architecture is universally optimal" so my 240 is good to go😁
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Didn’t call you dumb, but “reading” with AI and completely missing the point of the whole link is in fact dumb, nothing I can do about it, in the post linked there are recommendations, coming to your own conclusions and ending your post with “ehehe” like you’re the clever one or something just makes the posts insufferable, like the link at the end of every single post, we got it.
Didn’t call you dumb, but “reading” with AI and completely missing the point of the whole link is in fact dumb, nothing I can do about...
Didn’t call you dumb, but “reading” with AI and completely missing the point of the whole link is in fact dumb, nothing I can do about it, in the post linked there are recommendations, coming to your own conclusions and ending your post with “ehehe” like you’re the clever one or something just makes the posts insufferable, like the link at the end of every single post, we got it.
Each to their own. Sorry if the link is so disturbing. I guess we all have our own challenges in life🤷♂️
Let's keep the discussion on the topic.
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DT-Swiss is making phenomenal hubs but they are not a design that is the best for USD-Forks. I ride a EXT Vaia on my Park bike...
DT-Swiss is making phenomenal hubs but they are not a design that is the best for USD-Forks. I ride a EXT Vaia on my Park bike and a NON+ Hub with 15mm axle on FR 541 Rims. Works much better than a 350 with a 20mm axle on the exact same rim. This is because of the axle design inside of a hub. DT-Swiss has a „shorter“ bearing axle and the Endcaps make up for the actual with. Phenomenal design for modularity but not the first choice for a fork that is missing one crown and you need to choose a hub to make up for steering precision. Nobody here is saying a 240 isn’t a good hub, it’s just not the best choice for a USD Fork.
AI can be great, hence the added picture, even if not fully accurate. But it can only be as precise as your question. „good“ is a very loose term. A different axle design is not going to turn a noodly Shiver in to a FOX 40 from nowadays but it is definitely noticeable!
Aah yes now I see the point. Thanks this was informative. I need send my 240 back.. have not even received it yet so I can go with another front hub that has longer bearing axle.
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I mist be a minority here because i have ridden my intend 35 fork with a cheap non branded hub, dt swiss hubs and currently bontrager hubs and i cant tell or feel a difference in flex. I also ride a 38 and i can tell a difference in performance but not in flexion. At one point im unsire if all this feel has alot to do with where you put your mind at. If you plant a thought like it could flex you will more likely feel it flex. Im just stoked when i get to ride.
I do habe the stiffmaster installed and i can imagine that it contributes a lot to how the fork feels. Im an average rider, when i race i usually place in around the first third of the field. Also im not a heavy guy, on a good day i weight 67 kg but i have friends that are more likely around 90 kg and they are evenly amazed on the 35. Maybe also ridding style contributes alot to this topic, i (at least thats what i like to think) intuitively ride corners in an as wide arch as possible as this is how i used to do on motorbikes.
I mist be a minority here because i have ridden my intend 35 fork with a cheap non branded hub, dt swiss hubs and currently bontrager...
I mist be a minority here because i have ridden my intend 35 fork with a cheap non branded hub, dt swiss hubs and currently bontrager hubs and i cant tell or feel a difference in flex. I also ride a 38 and i can tell a difference in performance but not in flexion. At one point im unsire if all this feel has alot to do with where you put your mind at. If you plant a thought like it could flex you will more likely feel it flex. Im just stoked when i get to ride.
I do habe the stiffmaster installed and i can imagine that it contributes a lot to how the fork feels. Im an average rider, when i race i usually place in around the first third of the field. Also im not a heavy guy, on a good day i weight 67 kg but i have friends that are more likely around 90 kg and they are evenly amazed on the 35. Maybe also ridding style contributes alot to this topic, i (at least thats what i like to think) intuitively ride corners in an as wide arch as possible as this is how i used to do on motorbikes.
Being lighter probably helps with flexing less in all the parts.
Could also be that you need to be pro racer to notice any difference and we normal riders just like to talk about feeling the difference😁😁
But we shalll see. I Can update this topic with the difference between flash 35 15mm and 38 with 20mm axle when the fork arrives in a few weeks.
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"Decorum: propriety and good taste in conduct or appearance.""Etiquette: the conduct or procedure required by good breeding or prescribed by authority to...
"Decorum: propriety and good taste in conduct or appearance."
"Etiquette: the conduct or procedure required by good breeding or prescribed by authority to be observed in social or official life."
Yeah I get that. People are just a too sensitive these days🤷♂️
Yeah, the first few time I went to whistler I had the same feeling. Now that I've been up there a handful of times, I feel comfortable on my enduro bike but that's mostly because I know what to expect. This train of thought is mostly happening because I had the same hunch of renting a dh bike for the trip, and then realized that means an 800 dollar rental bill. That started to push me into the place of weighing 800 bucks to rent a bike... vs spending money on my own bike to fix the situation.
Honestly, my 38 with a smashpot did pretty well last year hammering through braking bumps. The key difference is that I never have hand or arm pump issues limiting my riding and I'm a bit concerned about having that happen this year. I think I'll suck it up and roll with my current setup and see what happens... I did also just ping my lbs about if I can get a manitou dorado in time...
You’ll be fine, ride yer damn bike. Conditions are bumpy and blown on the fast stuff but they are always bumpy and blown. Just go ride tech in the woods if you don’t want to rattle your fillings out.
Dang the places you ride.. hahaha my flash 38 will be ridden on mellow home trails for the most part.. some steeps sections.. but the 35 always felt a bit squirmy for my personal taste.. also it had the old internals so it is going to be nice to ride the latest and greatest use fork on the market no pun intended for the other brands.
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squirmy? on what hub and how heavy are you? 😳
I don't imagine it'll be world changing, but you could also bump your fork up to 180mm to buy a little extra cushion. I think the Vorsprung V2 kits ship with everything you need to bump up the travel.
Squirmy in way that feels like the front wheel is a bit soft.. steering feels like it is not that sharp.
Dtswiss 240 and 15mm axle.
Weight 90kg.
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it's most likely the hub with the floating end caps more than the fork
Yeah possible.. but probably not the whole reason.. also the 15mm axle.
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I'm using a 15mm axle. The fork isn't fully broken in yet. The action isn't quite as buttery-smooth as my older Edge, but I'm sure it will loosen up. I have the medium spacer installed, so it's more progressive, which suits me well. Stiffness is perfect; it performed great yesterday at the bike park on the more aggressive DH trails. I think it stays higher in its travel compared to the Edge.
Sounds good. So compared to Edge you find it more stable and direct than edge?
Better steering responding better to rider input than edge?
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Definitely. It’s more precise. It’s also more stable thanks to the extra weight—like a tank
The Edge is a bit more playful, while the 38 is for the rough stuff in the bike park. But I got used to the 38 quickly, even on tight, technical trails where you really have to work the bike. The only thing was that on the first ride, it kept pushing me wide in corners—probably due to the weight difference—but you adapt fast.
About 550g heavier than edge so you will probably feel it. It is only about 200g heavier than the flash 35 so I will most likely not notice the weight.
Thanks for your feedback. Can't wait to send it on my new drop.
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Meh don’t think so really, proper hub makes a ton of difference
What is a proper hub? 240 not a proper hub?
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Good article, I had Gemini read the article and then I asked if the 240 is good enough hub;
20x110mm Boost Hub: You must ensure your hub is a "20mm Boost" (20x110mm) version. Many high-end hubs, including the DT Swiss 240, offer swappable end caps. You can simply purchase the 20mm end cap kit for your DT 240 to make it compatible with your Flash 38.
Focus on Bearing Quality: Since you aren't relying on a specialized "Torque Cap" interface for stiffness, your focus shifts entirely to the hub’s internal tolerances and bearing health. The DT Swiss 240 remains a top-tier choice here because its internal axle sleeve and bearing alignment are extremely precise, which prevents any "play" that would otherwise cause your fork's bushings to bind.
Heheh
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Yeah, AI shits the bed once again.
Yeah I don't think that's an accurate or helpful summary of the key takeaways of that thread.
First with the link to every comment, then “reading” an article with ai and asking if your hub is good or not completely missing the point,
I guess AI is just helping people being dumber at this point
So what is a good a hub these days for usd fork, the article did not say or recommend this? No need to start calling people dumb, not a mature way to go in that route.
Just for reference I got the point of article without AI:s help. So the pinch bolts and binding is something that I have not done on the past..Will need to remember that in the future. Also as the article said. "Ultimately, no single hub architecture is universally optimal" so my 240 is good to go😁
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DT-Swiss is making phenomenal hubs but they are not a design that is the best for USD-Forks. I ride a EXT Vaia on my Park bike and a NON+ Hub with 15mm axle on FR 541 Rims. Works much better than a 350 with a 20mm axle on the exact same rim. This is because of the axle design inside of a hub. DT-Swiss has a „shorter“ bearing axle and the Endcaps make up for the actual with. Phenomenal design for modularity but not the first choice for a fork that is missing one crown and you need to choose a hub to make up for steering precision.
Nobody here is saying a 240 isn’t a good hub, it’s just not the best choice for a USD Fork.
AI can be great, hence the added picture, even if not fully accurate. But it can only be as precise as your question. „good“ is a very loose term. A different axle design is not going to turn a noodly Shiver in to a FOX 40 from nowadays but it is definitely noticeable!
Didn’t call you dumb, but “reading” with AI and completely missing the point of the whole link is in fact dumb, nothing I can do about it, in the post linked there are recommendations, coming to your own conclusions and ending your post with “ehehe” like you’re the clever one or something just makes the posts insufferable, like the link at the end of every single post, we got it.
Each to their own. Sorry if the link is so disturbing. I guess we all have our own challenges in life🤷♂️
Let's keep the discussion on the topic.
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Aah yes now I see the point. Thanks this was informative. I need send my 240 back.. have not even received it yet so I can go with another front hub that has longer bearing axle.
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I mist be a minority here because i have ridden my intend 35 fork with a cheap non branded hub, dt swiss hubs and currently bontrager hubs and i cant tell or feel a difference in flex. I also ride a 38 and i can tell a difference in performance but not in flexion.
At one point im unsire if all this feel has alot to do with where you put your mind at. If you plant a thought like it could flex you will more likely feel it flex. Im just stoked when i get to ride.
I do habe the stiffmaster installed and i can imagine that it contributes a lot to how the fork feels. Im an average rider, when i race i usually place in around the first third of the field. Also im not a heavy guy, on a good day i weight 67 kg but i have friends that are more likely around 90 kg and they are evenly amazed on the 35. Maybe also ridding style contributes alot to this topic, i (at least thats what i like to think) intuitively ride corners in an as wide arch as possible as this is how i used to do on motorbikes.
Being lighter probably helps with flexing less in all the parts.
Could also be that you need to be pro racer to notice any difference and we normal riders just like to talk about feeling the difference😁😁
But we shalll see. I Can update this topic with the difference between flash 35 15mm and 38 with 20mm axle when the fork arrives in a few weeks.
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do you need to post your annoying ad into every fucking thing you post? no i don‘t need a place to store my suspension settings, thanks for asking
Hard to stay on topic? The link is not braking any rules and frankly why is a link causing so much stir?
"Decorum: propriety and good taste in conduct or appearance."
"Etiquette: the conduct or procedure required by good breeding or prescribed by authority to be observed in social or official life."
Yeah I get that. People are just a too sensitive these days🤷♂️
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