Hi all and cheers in advance,
I am looking at upgrading the rear shock on a 2022 Giant Reign Advanced Pro 29 2 (currently rockshox deluxe select+), to something more enduro focussed (such as rockshox super deluxe or fox float x).
The internet gives the shock size as 205 x 60, with 146mm travel.
I understand that to upgrade I will need a shock that is 205 x 60 (eyelet-eyelet & stroke), however the 146mm travel stumps me. Do I need to purchase a higher spec shock second hand that has been on a 2020, 2021, 2022 reign therefore already has 146mm travel, or can I run a shock that comes stock as 140 or 150mm travel - and will this different travel result in riding differences other than more/ less bottom out resistance.
I have read a thread where on a 2022 giant reign advanced someone had removed internal shock spacers on their existing shock resulting in 151mm travel, therefore I am thinking it is fine and I could buy a shock that is 150mm travel and 205 x 60.
Alternatively if a bought a new shock can I adjust it to 146mm - is it possible or is it worth the hassle?
Any help is superb, I have been riding for 5 years (never upgraded a shock), so should be able to understand some lingo that is thrown my way.
As long as the shock is 205x60 it will fit and give you 146mm of travel. Also, consider frame clearance limitations if going to coil shock.
The part you read about is that guy removed the travel limiting spacer on the shock turning it into 62.5 or 65mm stroke.
The tricky part is getting a shock tune that will suit the kinematic of your range. 95% of people do not consider this when upgrading shocks.
Ok, thank you very much for clearing up the shock sizing, very helpful.
If I can squeeze a bit more knowledge out of you I would be even more grateful - how do I match up the kinematics of the old factory tuned shock with an upgraded stock one? Is there online charts that I can research etc?
Thank you very much.
Ideally find out the shock tune (compression tune/rebound tune) of the current shock and see if it's same as one off a higher-end version of the same frame. If you can find a upgrade shock with that tune- you'll be good.
You can go to a different tune- just be aware that it will change the feel of the suspension. If you are heavier than average you might be good to go to a heavier compression tune for example. If you are lighter than average and you get a heavier compression tune it will likely feel harsh.
Also is there something the current shock doesn't do well and you're looking to improve?
Just an FYI, unless you're on a small frame you can likely get away with a 205 x 62.5mm or 65mm if you want to bump up the rear travel a bit (should make roughly 152mm or 158mm based on the 2.33:1 average leverage ratio). I ran a 205x65mm EXT on my medium frame with no clearance issues.
I think often you're better off buying a used shock in the right size (I think all 205x60 and 62.5 are actually 205x65 with a travel limiting spacer so any of those should work) and then having it rebuilt and custom tuned at the same time versus buying a new aftermarket generic tuned shock. Fox Australia has a factory tuning center (https://www.ridefoxaustralia.com.au/products/fox-factory-tune), or somebody like https://nsdynamics.com.au/ or the like could help you out with other brands.
yep, definately talk to the guys at NS Dynamics, they will help you make the correct choice.
They sell cane creek, the Double Barell coil shock would be a good candidate, the shock tune can pretty much be matched to any kinematic, weight or rider style within it's adjustment range.
I want to second what Dave Camp said- curious to hear what you're looking to fix or change by switching shocks.
If you find such a chart, let me know! But currently that kind of info isn't widely (or even narrowly) available
It would be a help to know more about what you would like from the new shock - is there something you don't like about the current one? And what kind of terrain are you riding
Clearances is a big problem these days so a shock from a newer or higher level reign is an OK option as yo uknow it will fit, although Reigns don't usually have too much trouble. I would be very wary of used shocks though - depending on how its been used/looked after, anything older than about 6 months could be almost new or completely worn out if its been severely neglected. Then if you go down the custom tuning route, there are very few people who can reliably deliver what you need. As alluded to above, we don't exactly have access to charts with all of the tune info for every bike! If you were looking at those options I would find a Vorsprung EPTC and get their Tractive system for the Super Deluxe, thats about the closest thing you will find to a reliable tuning system that you get your money's worth for.
Hi, I have a Giant Reign 2020 same as him and I bought a used EXT Storia v3, should I contact EXT for support and re-tune my shock?
Did I made the right decision or I should have stayed with my 2021 FOX Float X2?
If your in Canada get a hold of Alba distribution, they will sort you out (even if your not in Canada it would be worth getting onto them and they will be able to let you know your options)
Thank you, I will try contacting them!
I’m thinking of putting an ext storia on my 23 reign so I’d love to hear your thoughts on the shock.
I’ve had a Storia on a Druid and now one on a stump jumper 15. Traction is the most noticeable things with these shocks, it stays planted works great. Alba here in Canada is really great to work with. Helping tune the shock, service and providing setup advice.
Great all around. Would recommend on any bike
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