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Mototonto 4/30/2020 10:34am
4/30/2020 10:34am
Can we expect to see alloy versions of the new scout and sentinel?
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Ryan Silliker 4/30/2020 10:36am
4/30/2020 10:36am
Ryan Silliker wrote:
I was wondering of the Anti-Rise numbers changed on the new pivot layout ?
Thanks
Samsquatch wrote:
The original Sentinel had anti rise numbers that varied from 30-40% through the travel and the new Sentinel is a hair over 50% the whole way...
The original Sentinel had anti rise numbers that varied from 30-40% through the travel and the new Sentinel is a hair over 50% the whole way through the travel. I would not focus on any one number too obsessively, since everything works together and a lot of assumptions are needed for anti rise, anti squat, etc and things are very dynamic in the real world. --Sam
Right , that is a move in the right direction IMO !
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ride 4/30/2020 10:41am
4/30/2020 10:41am
Paxx wrote:
Any chance that you might consider creating a new link for the 18/19 Sentinel that mimics the leverage curve of the new bike so that we...
Any chance that you might consider creating a new link for the 18/19 Sentinel that mimics the leverage curve of the new bike so that we can party harder in the woods with our current bikes?

I've got my life savings tied up in my build so a new frame isn't in the cards but I'm drooling over the thought of a little more progression and travel to compliment my 11-6!
Rumor has it Cascade Components is developing a link for the V1 Sentinel. Expect to see this soon.

Btw, It won't void your warranty!

- Lars
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aruesch17 4/30/2020 10:42am
4/30/2020 10:42am
Owner of a new 2019 sentinel here. Been trying to figure out if a coil is the right move on that bike. Seeing interesting mixed reviews on forums. Would love to hear your thoughts!
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fitek 4/30/2020 10:49am
4/30/2020 10:49am
Any plans to make kids bikes or at least refresh the Ripcord? There's been a lot of change with 20" and 24" bike components in the last couple years-- the Hayes Junit line, Manitou Machete forks (shorter a2c, built for lightweight riders) and SDG Components kids products-- but somehow most kids bikes still suck, and even the few good ones you end up swapping out components because no one has the complete package. There's no shortage of kids out on Galby, mostly on crap bikes. It'd be sweet to have an innovative brand like TR attack this issue.
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Driller 4/30/2020 10:51am
4/30/2020 10:51am
I started the plans to build a Scout the other day, and immediately noticed the new 2021 Fox factory series shocks aren't offered in the specified configuration. Will this force revision of the geometry, or will their lower level shocks still be offered in the current length and travel?
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Schilly 4/30/2020 10:51am
4/30/2020 10:51am
aruesch17 wrote:
Owner of a new 2019 sentinel here. Been trying to figure out if a coil is the right move on that bike. Seeing interesting mixed reviews...
Owner of a new 2019 sentinel here. Been trying to figure out if a coil is the right move on that bike. Seeing interesting mixed reviews on forums. Would love to hear your thoughts!
With the V1 Sentinel being more linear, it really depends on what you are wanting to get out of the bike. If you are looking for better ground traction and the ability to plow through chatter, I'd say go coil. But it will make the bike less "poppy" and you may find yourself bottoming out more than you'd like.

I ran a Sentinel in both configurations multiple times, and for me it came down to what and where I was riding. On my hometown trails where I ride more confidently and thus push into the bike more, I greatly preferred air. The air shock stays higher in the travel, is more playful, and resists bottom out much better. When I travel to ride new places, especially if they are extra rowdy new places, I find myself "defending" more, and like the coil feel of being planted with tons of traction.

My recommendation is that if you get a coil, keep your air shock as well so you can swap back and forth for trails and terrain that makes sense for each.
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Samsquatch 4/30/2020 10:56am
4/30/2020 10:56am
Driller wrote:
I started the plans to build a Scout the other day, and immediately noticed the new 2021 Fox factory series shocks aren't offered in the specified...
I started the plans to build a Scout the other day, and immediately noticed the new 2021 Fox factory series shocks aren't offered in the specified configuration. Will this force revision of the geometry, or will their lower level shocks still be offered in the current length and travel?
All metric shocks in 205mm are the same base shock with internal spacers to modify between 57.5, 60, 62.5 and 65mm stroke. It is possible to convert any one stroke to the other, but it requires a full rebuild of the damper. As an OEM all the travel configurations are available. I have no idea why Fox limits what is available aftermarket, but if you send them enough emails requesting specific strokes, hopefully they will open up more options aftermarket. --Sam
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djseeds 4/30/2020 10:56am
4/30/2020 10:56am
aruesch17 wrote:
Owner of a new 2019 sentinel here. Been trying to figure out if a coil is the right move on that bike. Seeing interesting mixed reviews...
Owner of a new 2019 sentinel here. Been trying to figure out if a coil is the right move on that bike. Seeing interesting mixed reviews on forums. Would love to hear your thoughts!
Schilly wrote:
With the V1 Sentinel being more linear, it really depends on what you are wanting to get out of the bike. If you are looking for...
With the V1 Sentinel being more linear, it really depends on what you are wanting to get out of the bike. If you are looking for better ground traction and the ability to plow through chatter, I'd say go coil. But it will make the bike less "poppy" and you may find yourself bottoming out more than you'd like.

I ran a Sentinel in both configurations multiple times, and for me it came down to what and where I was riding. On my hometown trails where I ride more confidently and thus push into the bike more, I greatly preferred air. The air shock stays higher in the travel, is more playful, and resists bottom out much better. When I travel to ride new places, especially if they are extra rowdy new places, I find myself "defending" more, and like the coil feel of being planted with tons of traction.

My recommendation is that if you get a coil, keep your air shock as well so you can swap back and forth for trails and terrain that makes sense for each.
Yes, I would re-iterate what Skye said...For instance I preferred the FloatX2 on my Sentinel for those reasons, but took both to race Trans-Sierra Norte and preferred the Push eleven six for racing blind rowdy trails for sure!
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Ryan Silliker 4/30/2020 10:58am
4/30/2020 10:58am
aruesch17 wrote:
Owner of a new 2019 sentinel here. Been trying to figure out if a coil is the right move on that bike. Seeing interesting mixed reviews...
Owner of a new 2019 sentinel here. Been trying to figure out if a coil is the right move on that bike. Seeing interesting mixed reviews on forums. Would love to hear your thoughts!
What volume spacer do you currently use in the DPX2 ?
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asifarif786 4/30/2020 11:03am
4/30/2020 11:03am
When is the new patrol coming out?
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Sg 4/30/2020 11:08am
4/30/2020 11:08am
@transitionkevin Did you guys ever get to ride the trails that happen to be on your left on they way to "beyond" ( if you know you know )
Any plans on an updated cx/ gravel bike . I love my rapture but give it absolute death, more rear tire clearance would be great!
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Schilly 4/30/2020 11:13am
4/30/2020 11:13am
TravvyPark wrote:
Hey there! Love the bikes and super stoked on the new Sentinel. I might be able to get one at the end of the summer but...
Hey there! Love the bikes and super stoked on the new Sentinel. I might be able to get one at the end of the summer but I was wondering if there is works for a new Patrol design with the straight lines in the works?

I would prefer to have 27.5 wheels on a bike with 150 in the back and 160 up front. I was thinking about buying the new Scout and adding the extra 10mm front and back but now with the Sentinel out I'm not sure what Ill do. Which would you say would be the better option. Or how do you think the Sentinel would feel as a mullet bike?
Hey Travvy,

Stoked you like the new designs! Darrin killed it with these. I run a Scout currently, and have played with a few travel configurations and eventually landed on 150/150. The Scout is my only trail bike, so the extra travel in the back is awesome since our riding here in the PNW can get pretty rowdy. I personally really like the geo with 150 front, you have tons of front wheel traction and it feels very balanced. 160 doesn't ruin that, but it lifts the front end slightly more than I like. That said, I personally don't feel that 150 in the front slows me down or stops me from riding anything, so I'm happy with it. But if your riding and terrain needs more, you might look at is getting a fork that you can swap the air spring between 150 and 160. Those springs aren't that expensive, and could even allow you to change the travel for when you ride terrain that warrants it.
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dlxah 4/30/2020 11:16am
4/30/2020 11:16am
Lots of great options available these days to get more progression out of a coil. MRP and Cane Creek are both offering a decent variety of progressive springs, and EXT and Push both offer hydraulic bottom out on their shocks. Presumably the progressive springs will give you a poppier feel more similar to an air shock but with the added sensitivity and consistency of a coil, and the hydraulic bottom out would give you a more planted, controlled feel.
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BRANTLEYB 4/30/2020 11:21am
4/30/2020 11:21am
just to be clear, we are avoiding all smuggler conversation? haha!
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Skidz 4/30/2020 11:26am
4/30/2020 11:26am Edited Date/Time 4/30/2020 11:30am
If you could remove one entity (person, company, place, aspect) of the bike industry, what would it be?

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KyleK 4/30/2020 11:26am
4/30/2020 11:26am
BRANTLEYB wrote:
just to be clear, we are avoiding all smuggler conversation? haha!
Alloy questions as well apparently.
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BRANTLEYB 4/30/2020 11:29am
4/30/2020 11:29am
BRANTLEYB wrote:
just to be clear, we are avoiding all smuggler conversation? haha!
KyleK wrote:
Alloy questions as well apparently.
I'll assume that means that theres a lot going on in the background on these subjects. They did a really good job on keeping the Scout relatively secret!
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Transition Kevin 4/30/2020 11:31am
4/30/2020 11:31am
Sg wrote:
@transitionkevin Did you guys ever get to ride the trails that happen to be on your left on they way to "beyond" ( if you know...
@transitionkevin Did you guys ever get to ride the trails that happen to be on your left on they way to "beyond" ( if you know you know )
Any plans on an updated cx/ gravel bike . I love my rapture but give it absolute death, more rear tire clearance would be great!
I get what you are saying (wink wink) and I personally did not get to ride them. Still would love to some day, probably one of the most beautiful places on earth. On the cx/gravel thing, no plans for anything but we are constantly changing things up so you never know but I wouldn't hold your breath. You could file that under the same folder as "Are we bringing back the Klunker". Personally I love super skinny sketchy tires on my CX bike :-) Funny to see where that genre has gone and we are now basically running mountain bike tires on gravel/cx bikes.
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nateh 4/30/2020 11:36am
4/30/2020 11:36am Edited Date/Time 4/30/2020 11:36am
You're at the top of a race stage, you have:
Fireball
Tequila
Oysters
Gummy Bears
Maple Breakfast Links

You need to make a shooter, GO
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djseeds 4/30/2020 11:40am
4/30/2020 11:40am
nateh wrote:
You're at the top of a race stage, you have:
Fireball
Tequila
Oysters
Gummy Bears
Maple Breakfast Links

You need to make a shooter, GO
So you were clearly at the CDC Chuckanut Enduro?.....trick question, all of the above and get your fastest ever time on that stage!
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TravvyPark 4/30/2020 11:41am
4/30/2020 11:41am
Any word on a new Patrol???
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Samsquatch 4/30/2020 11:41am
4/30/2020 11:41am
BRANTLEYB wrote:
just to be clear, we are avoiding all smuggler conversation? haha!
KyleK wrote:
Alloy questions as well apparently.
We know a lot of people are looking for alloy options, and it's something you will see more of from us eventually. We can't share any specific timing or details yet, but we hear you, and we aren't ignoring the category. We're a small company and when we develop something we want to make sure we do it right. --Sam
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redrockmtb 4/30/2020 11:42am
4/30/2020 11:42am
Why are you on here answering questions instead of shipping out my Sentinel frame?
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Samsquatch 4/30/2020 11:44am
4/30/2020 11:44am
nateh wrote:
You're at the top of a race stage, you have:
Fireball
Tequila
Oysters
Gummy Bears
Maple Breakfast Links

You need to make a shooter, GO
Do you have a vegan option?

What about fresh oysters at a demo in Sedona? Cam packed them down in tiny cooler inside a bigger cooler on a long haul 2 day drive. They were fresh 3 days out of the water. People were very confused.... jajaja.
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BiNARYBiKE 4/30/2020 11:45am
4/30/2020 11:45am
Hey guys! Long time customer here, been a Transition junky since the Preston FR. Thanks for all the good times and sorry for all the annoying phone calls over the years. So here's my question: I've owned both the SBG Patrol and Sentinel in carbon. at 6' 3", I feel more comfortable overall on a 29 but I find the Patrol to be quite a bit easier to when hitting jumps and berms (think mini A-line type stuff). I love how the Sentinel gave me so much confidence in steep chunder, but I felt less comfy hitting bigger jumps and struggled to get it around corners. I've also gone back and forth between large and XL, typically sticking with large because I find the shorter wheelbase helps me corner better. But it feels a bit small in the cockpit. Question is, does my experience between 27.5 and 29, and between large and XL make logical sense? I'm sure most of it is due to lack of skill on my part, particularly in cornering. Pretty much everyone thinks I'm crazy to be on a large. Should I really be on an XL and try to improve my cornering and jumping technique? Lastly, any comparison of the cornering and jumping feel of the new Sentinel vs. the previous generation? Sorry, that was actually three questions.
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BRANTLEYB 4/30/2020 11:49am
4/30/2020 11:49am
BRANTLEYB wrote:
just to be clear, we are avoiding all smuggler conversation? haha!
KyleK wrote:
Alloy questions as well apparently.
Im actually hoping that @djseeds will get tired of me asking about the smuggler and just send me one as a test mule! haha
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Schilly 4/30/2020 11:52am
4/30/2020 11:52am
redrockmtb wrote:
Why are you on here answering questions instead of shipping out my Sentinel frame?
Oh don't worry, shipping crew is still doing their thing! Just experiencing heavy traffic at the moment , it'll be on the way soon!
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djseeds 4/30/2020 11:53am
4/30/2020 11:53am
redrockmtb wrote:
Why are you on here answering questions instead of shipping out my Sentinel frame?
We are actually the Product and Marketing team, all working from home right now. Carl is still on the front lines doing his best to keep up with demand shipping bikes from our warehouse. I'm sure you will be united with your new pony very soon!
Transition Kevin 4/30/2020 11:57am
4/30/2020 11:57am
Skidz wrote:
If you could remove one entity (person, company, place, aspect) of the bike industry, what would it be?

The Canadian border is pretty annoying when you are trying to get to Whistler/North Shore/Squamish super fast!
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