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That, what I claim, is fair enough! Show me pictures of their own production line of Carbon rims and I´ll stay quiet about it. I am not sure, if you´ve read about what I and other people have explained about how the bike industry works. And no offense, bicycle industry is a little different from automotive industry. I live in Munich and i have studie and graduated from a German university in Mechanical Engineering. I am not sayig this to brag about. But you can safely assume, that I know a little about automotive industry. Bascially every other of my...

Really? What does "seeing first hand how hard and how innovative this company has been delevoping components over a long period of time" include? I don´t feel like repeating myself over and over, but I some people, including you, do not seem to just remotely understand, what developing really is and what it takes to develop those things. You also don´t seem to be grasping, how easy it can be to source existing components from more than thousands of manufacturers/suppliers alone in Taiwan. Then you go send them a logo, and they´ll put it on the goods they produce and...

Oh, and the "similarity" of paddle-shape between your Triggers paddles and those from a Shimano SLX, XT and XTR, was not intended, right? Sensah Paddles: http://sensahtech.com/srx/ Shimano Paddles: https://www.google.com/search?biw=1920&bih=938&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=64LtW7z… I´d never in my life have the balls to market something just looking remotely that similiar to a Shimano Trigger. Just by loooking at the shape and the dent pattern on the paddles of the Tigger, I'd be afraid to have a letter from Japan on the way to me, soon. But what do i know about the business...

I guess what people wanted to see are drawing sketches, early prototypes/functioning mock-ups. Those parts, that one can see here are for sure no prototypes, but production parts or very late pre-production samples, as they are clearly forged/stamped and definitely something you can not produce without a mould. They are even properly surface finshed, anodized and labeled already. This does not prove that you´ve designed anything. Neither do the pictures. To be fair: It does also not prove that you didn´t. It´s just that the way about how you got from the beginnigs to now, is where you leave us...

The "dudes" are misrepresenting themselves at best and commiting fraud worst case. Those pics could be photoshopped. The group in the video may be the only one they have. Its always buyer/investor beware on crowd funding sites and there is no shortage of scams on those sites. These guys wont answer/cant answer specifics for obvious reasons. I contacted Sansah to ask tge valid question about their relationship with these guys. We wont get that here.

The point many have made here is you sourced and bought these parts from someone else if indeed you bought anything at all. These parts obviously come from Sansahtech. A look through their story and news tabs makes no mention of any partners. As mentioned it says tgey are ex Sram employees. That is quite reasonable. Using Chinese vendors to make products is reasonable and acceptable. Claiming the design process the way you have is not. Its very clear how you talk about it that you dont understand these processes enough to be managing them. I happened to be at...

Bullshit. This stuff is straight off aliexpress. These guys are neither marketing engineering or manufacturing experts. They arent even convincing advocates for this stuff.

I´ve joined Bionicon Bikes in 2010 and was in charge of and executed all frame and suspension designs after 2012. Here are a few of the things, that we´ve designed in that period: https://www.bionicon.de/technik/ I´ve re-designed the existing Bionicon geometry-adjust system, introducing a double-positive and double negative air spring: https://www.mtb-news.de/forum/attachments/15-2x2-air-cartridge-jpg.3688… I graduated from university with the design of a bladder-based damping cartridge, which can be seen here at 3:15 (it´s in German though, sorry): https://videos.mtb-news.de/31011/eurobike_2013_bionicon A few years ago, I´ve designed an adjustable negative air can for X-Fusion Vector Air, because I believed this was a great shock with great...

I meant to reply to my other post and wanted to say, that it was sad, that there is no more statement from TRW. But to be honest, that was to be expected. I have been designing MTB frames and suspension for a couple of years now. I´ve lived in Taiwan for almost two years. And I just find it unbelievably bold to make such a statement of having designed a complete groupset from scratch within a period of two years by basically a two man team? How little idea of the complexity of this product can you have, to...

Here is the manufacturer of these parts website. http://sensahtech.com/sensah/ The google translation to english is pretty bad as usual but its clear they designed and made this product. TRWactive lists an address that is the corner of a small industrial complex outside their town. Gravity Worx bike shop only has a Facebook page that is no more convincing than this post. Anyone who has done any kind of product testing can see your test rigs were created by people who have no idea what structural and lifecycle test equipment looks like or how it works. I sent an email to...

Nobody is a dick. It's constantly said the community will buy anything when we talk about new standards. Well, it might seem like it, but we don't buy just anything. The whole thing is suspicious given how much talk about development and testing we have read in the press release and the comments, yet you can buy, by the looks of it, the exact same components from the exact same tooling with different prints (this is the cheap part) from Ali Express. They might not be bad, but they sure as hell don't look like they are a bespoke development...

And that's why some of us are bitching here, because an obvious rebranding is being sold as a hard worked development by two guys in a garage. Which, as someone said before, is a slap in the face of the guys that actually do make awesome stuff by themselves in a garage. Look at Pinion for example.

If i am to nitpick here, how is a 52-11 the widest range on the market? It's 472,7 %. Lat i checked Eagle is 500. And the new XTR is 510 %. But who cares about the detail. You know how a picture is worth a thousand words? This long post could be completely avoided and made MUCH more believable by simply posting one or more pictures of the prototypes for your group. Kinda like what Sram did when they released XX1 to the world, where the whole proto process was shown. Or how proto wireless eagle derailleurs have been...

Where have I seen that 11-speed logo before?

It's a rebranded Chinese drivetrain with a big mark up.

"no re-branding." https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SENSAH-X01-Type-2-1-11-Speed-Rear-Derai… OK...

Nah the subtle difference in plating of a select few screws are a performance upgrade