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synBike Liked a reply to forum topic Have We Been Measuring Sag Wrong? (and how to fix it...)

6/16/2025 2:32pm
This 1000%. Sag is a nearly useless measurement for anything other that a very initial baseline for setup on a new bike. Depending on the kinematics and dampers involved you might be anywhere from 22-32% sag between platforms with an optimum setup. The real question is not if we are measuring it correctly but if we should we be measuring it at all 😂
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Agreed on all counts. If it's repeatable, it's as valid as it can be, but it's not a very meaningful target in itself, it's a byproduct of having the necessary spring rate for the loads you put on the bike and the ride quality you're looking for. Worrying about the precision of the sag measurement like that is utterly pointless...

Skunk Works Suspension Liked a reply to forum topic Coil Shock Shootout

3/5/2025 9:56am
The Vorsprung shock is somewhat similar to a CC Double Barrel in that they are both twin tube designs like Ohlins pioneered. The Telum has the most interesting design out of the bunch with a solid main piston and very unique means of adjusting the compression and rebound damping curves. It wins "showroom feel" as well, I have never felt a shock so supple and smooth. Perhaps a twin tube shootout with Cane Creek, Ohlins, Fox DHX2, and Telum? We're just getting started, big plans for the future. 👍
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Actual innovation is rare but this is an example. Now I want the same for my fork… being able to easily alter shim stack is awesome.
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Nope this is right in line. Less then a push 11.6, about the same as a custom tuned EXT. people got to realize that decent suspension is expensive. All the money people spend on carbon and goofy stuff but they want to cheap out on the squishy bits that make mtbs offroad capable.
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Having spent a good long while on the Telum on my Dreadnought v2 all I can say is that it's everything I'd expect it to be and more. Honestly for how well built, thought out, and amazing this shock is I am honestly impressed it doesn't cost more. Between the shock, the tune hub and just Vorsprung's ethos to customer care and service, I can that it's been worth every cent I've paid for it. Also, Steve and the team at Vorsprung are just solid humans. I ended up having a couple needs on the shock taken care of during...
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suspension product of the year for 2024? Yup.
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Vorsprung Added a new Press Release Vorsprung Launch Smashpot Coil Conversion System

1/4/2022 6:11pm
When you just want the best bump-eating suspension quality possible no matter what, there still isn't a match for the age-old coil spring. And we'd know - we've been at the forefront of air spring...
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Thanks Steve. Tons of good info in there for us armchair engineers
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Very cool video guys. The Runt is a solid product for sure. However, I would respectfully disagree with a lot of the assertions made in this particular post: What we would say is that for a rear shock, the coil is a really great option. Rear air shocks require tight seals to be able to handle the air pressure, especially at full compression. This in turn creates at lot of extra friction on the entire system. With the coil spring, it alleviates a ton of friction, and gives you un-matched suppleness and mid-stroke support. Obviously, air springs have more...
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Vorsprung Added a comment about product review Luftkappe

7/19/2019 10:57am
Quick note on the pricing - those figures should actually be in CAD not USD. So for under $105USD ($133CAD) you actually do get the roll pin tool included
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Vorsprung Added a comment about press release Vorsprung Launch Smashpot Coil Conversion System

1/31/2019 11:03am
Push ACS3 MSRP is $389USD including spring - Jenson sell it for $309 WITHOUT spring. Our MSRP is ~$315USD including spring. We use hydraulic anti-bottoming so that you don't have a spring plunger physically impacting an air spring plunger mid travel. There are no moving seals to worry about wearing out, no air seals to leak, and it dissipates kinetic energy instead of storing it and then releasing it again - there's a reason it's easier to tune rebound damping with linear springs than progressive ones. It can provide equivalent bottoming resistance with lower peak forces too, because peak hydraulic...
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NebulousNate Liked a comment about Press Release Vorsprung Launch Smashpot Coil Conversion System

1/31/2019 10:50am
They did mention why their bottom out system offers advantages and you mentioned it in your comment. They dont have air seals that need more maintenance than the system they offer and you can adjust it without a shock pump on the fly. What else do you want them to say? MSRP on this system is less than the $389 for the Push system. I know you can get it through Jenson and others for cheaper which may end up being the case here given some time. Lower maintenance and tool free adjustment mean a lot to me and other...
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Rainey Liked a comment about Press Release Vorsprung Launch Smashpot Coil Conversion System

1/30/2019 6:54pm
Thanks for the reply! It's definitely a product I'll look I to for other builds as the Asc3 is very expensive but for my main build to match the 11.6 it seemed like it was the only way forward. The luftkappe is a quality product, I had on my pikes! Keep up the work man! Cheers
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