Modern Inverted Single Crown Forks

ebruner
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Have you ridden Whistler before?

ebruner wrote:
Yeah, I go up for 4-6 days of riding every year and have for the last 5 years, so I have a decent idea of what...

Yeah, I go up for 4-6 days of riding every year and have for the last 5 years, so I have a decent idea of what to expect.  From the sounds of it, conditions are worse this year then all of the past years I've been up there.    Last year I was running a 180mm 38 with a v1 smashpot with a 45lb spring and I was pretty happy with it... but I had been riding a bunch before hand and was feeling really good.  That will not be the case this year... I already realize I'm going to have to dial my expectations back... and I suppose that's the answer.  Stick with the known commodity and adjust myself as necessary... I guess I'm just grasping at straws for how to ensure I have a good trip this year, and I guess the answer is that I'm the one that controls that, not some equipment change.  

I just did my first trip there ever last week and I was a bit overwhelmed by how much bigger and faster everything was compared to...

I just did my first trip there ever last week and I was a bit overwhelmed by how much bigger and faster everything was compared to the other bike parks I’ve been to lmao


Im on a Nomad 7 Fox 38 X2 with a Telum and thats the first time I’ve ever felt under-gunned on an enduro bike. I can’t speak to historical conditions but  the brake bumps were plentiful and firm. 

I guess if you want to talk yourself into new gear you can but I can’t see how a USD fork would improve the situation over your current setup. I’d maybe consider renting a DH bike because at a certain point there’s no replacement for displacement.

Yeah, the first few time I went to whistler I had the same feeling.  Now that I've been up there a handful of times, I feel comfortable on my enduro bike but that's mostly because I know what to expect.  This train of thought is mostly happening because I had the same hunch of renting a dh bike for the trip, and then realized that means an 800 dollar rental bill.  That started to push me into the place of weighing 800 bucks to rent a bike... vs spending money on my own bike to fix the situation.  

Honestly, my 38 with a smashpot did pretty well last year hammering through braking bumps.  The key difference is that I never have hand or arm pump issues limiting my riding and I'm a bit concerned about having that happen this year.  I think I'll suck it up and roll with my current setup and see what happens...  I did also just ping my lbs about if I can get a manitou dorado in time...

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bigbrett
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ebruner wrote:
Yeah, the first few time I went to whistler I had the same feeling.  Now that I've been up there a handful of times, I feel...

Yeah, the first few time I went to whistler I had the same feeling.  Now that I've been up there a handful of times, I feel comfortable on my enduro bike but that's mostly because I know what to expect.  This train of thought is mostly happening because I had the same hunch of renting a dh bike for the trip, and then realized that means an 800 dollar rental bill.  That started to push me into the place of weighing 800 bucks to rent a bike... vs spending money on my own bike to fix the situation.  

Honestly, my 38 with a smashpot did pretty well last year hammering through braking bumps.  The key difference is that I never have hand or arm pump issues limiting my riding and I'm a bit concerned about having that happen this year.  I think I'll suck it up and roll with my current setup and see what happens...  I did also just ping my lbs about if I can get a manitou dorado in time...

You’ll be fine, ride yer damn bike. Conditions are bumpy and blown on the fast stuff but they are always bumpy and blown. Just go ride tech in the woods if you don’t want to rattle your fillings out. 

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Will_
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n1cholasj wrote:
As a follow-up to my questions earlier in this thread, I ended up getting a flash 38 with 20mm axle (was debating between a flash/infinity/dorado). I...

As a follow-up to my questions earlier in this thread, I ended up getting a flash 38 with 20mm axle (was debating between a flash/infinity/dorado). I decided I didn't want to pedal a dual crown around; mostly out of fear of being a "poser" if I wasn't sending everything in sight. 

I'm stoked on my choice. The flash is insane. Broke it on a week-long trip to Squamish and Whistler. It started off butter-smooth; after a day and a half, it somehow got even better. I did feel some torsional flex a couple times - once when landing a jump awkwardly, and possibly in a fast smooth berm (but also could have been my radial magic mary?). Otherwise, it handled steep slab, fast chunky rock, roots, etc beautifully.

The fork feels more supportive than my mezzer, while offering a much more comfortable ride. Was it worth the price difference? Hard to say but I don't regret buying it at this point.

Dang the places you ride.. hahaha my flash 38 will be ridden on mellow home trails for the most part.. some steeps sections.. but the 35 always felt a bit squirmy for my personal taste.. also it had the old internals so it is going to be nice to ride the latest and greatest use fork on the market no pun intended for the other brands.

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Evil96
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13 hours ago
n1cholasj wrote:
As a follow-up to my questions earlier in this thread, I ended up getting a flash 38 with 20mm axle (was debating between a flash/infinity/dorado). I...

As a follow-up to my questions earlier in this thread, I ended up getting a flash 38 with 20mm axle (was debating between a flash/infinity/dorado). I decided I didn't want to pedal a dual crown around; mostly out of fear of being a "poser" if I wasn't sending everything in sight. 

I'm stoked on my choice. The flash is insane. Broke it on a week-long trip to Squamish and Whistler. It started off butter-smooth; after a day and a half, it somehow got even better. I did feel some torsional flex a couple times - once when landing a jump awkwardly, and possibly in a fast smooth berm (but also could have been my radial magic mary?). Otherwise, it handled steep slab, fast chunky rock, roots, etc beautifully.

The fork feels more supportive than my mezzer, while offering a much more comfortable ride. Was it worth the price difference? Hard to say but I don't regret buying it at this point.

Will_ wrote:
Dang the places you ride.. hahaha my flash 38 will be ridden on mellow home trails for the most part.. some steeps sections.. but the 35...

Dang the places you ride.. hahaha my flash 38 will be ridden on mellow home trails for the most part.. some steeps sections.. but the 35 always felt a bit squirmy for my personal taste.. also it had the old internals so it is going to be nice to ride the latest and greatest use fork on the market no pun intended for the other brands.

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squirmy? on what hub and how heavy are you? 😳

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TEAMROBOT
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ebruner wrote:
Yeah, I go up for 4-6 days of riding every year and have for the last 5 years, so I have a decent idea of what...

Yeah, I go up for 4-6 days of riding every year and have for the last 5 years, so I have a decent idea of what to expect.  From the sounds of it, conditions are worse this year then all of the past years I've been up there.    Last year I was running a 180mm 38 with a v1 smashpot with a 45lb spring and I was pretty happy with it... but I had been riding a bunch before hand and was feeling really good.  That will not be the case this year... I already realize I'm going to have to dial my expectations back... and I suppose that's the answer.  Stick with the known commodity and adjust myself as necessary... I guess I'm just grasping at straws for how to ensure I have a good trip this year, and I guess the answer is that I'm the one that controls that, not some equipment change.  

I just did my first trip there ever last week and I was a bit overwhelmed by how much bigger and faster everything was compared to...

I just did my first trip there ever last week and I was a bit overwhelmed by how much bigger and faster everything was compared to the other bike parks I’ve been to lmao


Im on a Nomad 7 Fox 38 X2 with a Telum and thats the first time I’ve ever felt under-gunned on an enduro bike. I can’t speak to historical conditions but  the brake bumps were plentiful and firm. 

I guess if you want to talk yourself into new gear you can but I can’t see how a USD fork would improve the situation over your current setup. I’d maybe consider renting a DH bike because at a certain point there’s no replacement for displacement.

ebruner wrote:
Yeah, the first few time I went to whistler I had the same feeling.  Now that I've been up there a handful of times, I feel...

Yeah, the first few time I went to whistler I had the same feeling.  Now that I've been up there a handful of times, I feel comfortable on my enduro bike but that's mostly because I know what to expect.  This train of thought is mostly happening because I had the same hunch of renting a dh bike for the trip, and then realized that means an 800 dollar rental bill.  That started to push me into the place of weighing 800 bucks to rent a bike... vs spending money on my own bike to fix the situation.  

Honestly, my 38 with a smashpot did pretty well last year hammering through braking bumps.  The key difference is that I never have hand or arm pump issues limiting my riding and I'm a bit concerned about having that happen this year.  I think I'll suck it up and roll with my current setup and see what happens...  I did also just ping my lbs about if I can get a manitou dorado in time...

I don't imagine it'll be world changing, but you could also bump your fork up to 180mm to buy a little extra cushion. I think the Vorsprung V2 kits ship with everything you need to bump up the travel.

Will_
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1 hour ago
n1cholasj wrote:
As a follow-up to my questions earlier in this thread, I ended up getting a flash 38 with 20mm axle (was debating between a flash/infinity/dorado). I...

As a follow-up to my questions earlier in this thread, I ended up getting a flash 38 with 20mm axle (was debating between a flash/infinity/dorado). I decided I didn't want to pedal a dual crown around; mostly out of fear of being a "poser" if I wasn't sending everything in sight. 

I'm stoked on my choice. The flash is insane. Broke it on a week-long trip to Squamish and Whistler. It started off butter-smooth; after a day and a half, it somehow got even better. I did feel some torsional flex a couple times - once when landing a jump awkwardly, and possibly in a fast smooth berm (but also could have been my radial magic mary?). Otherwise, it handled steep slab, fast chunky rock, roots, etc beautifully.

The fork feels more supportive than my mezzer, while offering a much more comfortable ride. Was it worth the price difference? Hard to say but I don't regret buying it at this point.

Will_ wrote:
Dang the places you ride.. hahaha my flash 38 will be ridden on mellow home trails for the most part.. some steeps sections.. but the 35...

Dang the places you ride.. hahaha my flash 38 will be ridden on mellow home trails for the most part.. some steeps sections.. but the 35 always felt a bit squirmy for my personal taste.. also it had the old internals so it is going to be nice to ride the latest and greatest use fork on the market no pun intended for the other brands.

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Evil96 wrote:

squirmy? on what hub and how heavy are you? 😳

Squirmy in way that feels like the front wheel is a bit soft.. steering feels like it is not that sharp.

Dtswiss 240 and 15mm axle.

Weight 90kg.

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Evil96
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1 hour ago
Will_ wrote:
Dang the places you ride.. hahaha my flash 38 will be ridden on mellow home trails for the most part.. some steeps sections.. but the 35...

Dang the places you ride.. hahaha my flash 38 will be ridden on mellow home trails for the most part.. some steeps sections.. but the 35 always felt a bit squirmy for my personal taste.. also it had the old internals so it is going to be nice to ride the latest and greatest use fork on the market no pun intended for the other brands.

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Evil96 wrote:

squirmy? on what hub and how heavy are you? 😳

Will_ wrote:
Squirmy in way that feels like the front wheel is a bit soft.. steering feels like it is not that sharp.Dtswiss 240 and 15mm axle.Weight 90kg.-----------------------Need...

Squirmy in way that feels like the front wheel is a bit soft.. steering feels like it is not that sharp.

Dtswiss 240 and 15mm axle.

Weight 90kg.

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it's most likely the hub with the floating end caps more than the fork

Will_
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5 minutes ago
Evil96 wrote:

squirmy? on what hub and how heavy are you? 😳

Will_ wrote:
Squirmy in way that feels like the front wheel is a bit soft.. steering feels like it is not that sharp.Dtswiss 240 and 15mm axle.Weight 90kg.-----------------------Need...

Squirmy in way that feels like the front wheel is a bit soft.. steering feels like it is not that sharp.

Dtswiss 240 and 15mm axle.

Weight 90kg.

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Need a place to store your suspension tunes or keep track of parts maintenance forecasts?

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Evil96 wrote:

it's most likely the hub with the floating end caps more than the fork

Yeah possible.. but probably not the whole reason.. also the 15mm axle.

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