The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

8 hours ago
Have any of you actually ridden an Amflow bike? I have (gen 1), and the frame rides great for its intended purpose. Its an all mountain...

Have any of you actually ridden an Amflow bike? I have (gen 1), and the frame rides great for its intended purpose. Its an all mountain bike, not super-enduro. I'd say it rides as good or better than something like the Levo. The flexiness is just fine. About right for a bike of that travel and intended terrain. 

Not to get too off track, but people aren't buying it because of how it rides. They don't really care about how it rides, the geo or flex characteristics. They're buying it because of how powerful the motor is

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8 hours ago
Not to get too off track, but people aren't buying it because of how it rides. They don't really care about how it rides, the geo...

Not to get too off track, but people aren't buying it because of how it rides. They don't really care about how it rides, the geo or flex characteristics. They're buying it because of how powerful the motor is

This convo is in context of the maturity of Chinese engineered frames, of which the Amflow excels

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7 hours ago
Not to get too off track, but people aren't buying it because of how it rides. They don't really care about how it rides, the geo...

Not to get too off track, but people aren't buying it because of how it rides. They don't really care about how it rides, the geo or flex characteristics. They're buying it because of how powerful the motor is

This convo is in context of the maturity of Chinese engineered frames, of which the Amflow excels

They've been engineering frames for many bike companies for decades. Many US bike brands don't have engineers on staff, they have an industrial designer and the engineer who rubber stamps the design works for the Chinese/Taiwanese firm

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7 hours ago
Have any of you actually ridden an Amflow bike? I have (gen 1), and the frame rides great for its intended purpose. Its an all mountain...

Have any of you actually ridden an Amflow bike? I have (gen 1), and the frame rides great for its intended purpose. Its an all mountain bike, not super-enduro. I'd say it rides as good or better than something like the Levo. The flexiness is just fine. About right for a bike of that travel and intended terrain. 

I have not, but did ride with a buddy who was demoing a v1 Amflow.  He said he was impressed with the motor but would not buy an Amflow to get it.  He said the bike itself was unimpressive - nothing terrible but not worth spending money on.  He'd consider getting the Mondraker or some other version.  He said the standout things of the demo were the motor system and the Shredda Rear tire the shop owner had mounted up front.

Afterwards, we talked to the shop owner whose bike it was and the co-owner who also had one.  They both pretty much said, yeah we got them for the motor and to hang better parts off of.  They said the frames are ok for trail riding but if you're expecting Santa Cruz quality, you'll be disappointed.  They said rear end is about as flexy as a gen3 Levo (which I found to be very flexy and hated).  They both had mounted 170mm Zebs on theirs because they said 38 crowns hit the downtube.  Even with the Zeb, the guy who had a size medium frame had to remove the compression adjuster knobs because they would contact the downtube.  They said they had 13 bikes (v2) on order for customers who wanted the new motor, but no ETA on when they'd ever get them.

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