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Yes, I hate Vail resorts too, but you've touched on about 1000 different topics with the pricing of the epic pass, and I think this is a case of prices needing to rise to match market demand. For instance, Spomer posted this excellent video journalism on the Epic Pass in March of this year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bfD4NiiMfo&t=410s The cost of the epic pass has been way, away, way too low for years, which led to an absolute stampede on local resorts by out-of-towners during Covid whenever snow was good (or even okay). The Covid ski years were terrible in terms of traffic...

I think the ski discussion is really relevant for all the reasons you guys mentioned. We haven’t really looked into how well the “lift-served businesses” are actually performing, but I’ve always wondered about their economics. I’ve never done a deep dive, or even been to Whistler, (I know...) but in Idaho, Wyoming, and Colorado, I’ve yet to visit a bike park that makes me think, “Yeah, these guys are printing money.” At best, most of them seem like breakeven operations, with Whistler possibly being the exception. Then again, maybe patrol + lifty + electricity isn't all that expensive so it...

Yeah but was still funny it came up when it did

gonna start a support group for cathro haters who cant sit through 5-15 seconds of a low effort gaff without feeling a type of way lol "His name was Robert Paulson."

I’d rather not have Cathro commentating.

Yeah I would definitely prefer a more serious take on the analysis that what is currently being presented

I'm tired of Cathros childish schtick at this stage. He has always done great analysis but all those stupid cutaway segments just seem foolish and boring. The dude is 37 now. It's a bit pathetic but I guess he does whatever Pinkbike tells him to do He'd be great commentating on races as the current crew seem to have difficulty spotting which riders are on different lines

I like skiing a lot. I wish I lived somewhere near the mountains to have the possibility to ski more often.