G.O.A.T. (Greatest of all time)

9/1/2015 6:29pm
Enduro & DH:
T-Mo

Enduro:
Wildhaber

On track for GOAT:
Rach Atherton

Honourable mention:
Jonnier




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9/1/2015 7:28pm
Objectively speaking it has to be Anne Carol or Nico.

Five to Ten years from now, good chance Gwin could be there too, maybe alone.

Lots of considerations... Rachel atherton for sure... She's changed the game for the woman and retired a few primary competitors and come back from career ending injuries. Sam Hill very similiar changed the game in men's dh racing but not quite the domination or longevity.... yet! ( I'm still pulling for him ) Minnar pure racer, longevity, consistency and results and not done yet either. On the pioneering side and what they've done for the sport/lifestyle of DH.. Cedric for sure, Peaty for sure and Tomac.

Graves great all around rider but I'm weighting DH the most and he just isn't tgere and his focus was elsewhere with good reason.

So... Right now, Ultimately I'm a dead heat between alien and Anne Caro... But if you consider other disciplines, success there and Relative gap between them and competition... It's likely Anne Caro by a tire tread.

9/2/2015 2:55am
Sam Hill is my hero!
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9/2/2015 4:43am
Wins/consistency: Nico / Minnaar, just different eras
Raw talent: Hill
Overall: Anne Caro - still crushing it to this day... raw talent, consistency and just bad-ass...
Personal fav: Tomac - wins dh, xc, slalom and oh yeah some road races too for good measure. Not strictly DH, but to me the definition of a mountain biker, can hack it in all situations.

I think it says a lot that there are so many names that are getting legitametly considered here. So many good riders, and so many good personalities/ambassadors for the sport. Best. sport. ever.
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9/2/2015 5:52am
...and do not forget...Mammoth master !!!!!

PD
Give Nico an V10 and we'll see !!!!
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9/2/2015 6:37am
Hill is good but reminds me of Tiger Woods in a number of ways. Was so dominate for awhile but can't seem to find his way...
Hill is good but reminds me of Tiger Woods in a number of ways. Was so dominate for awhile but can't seem to find his way back uptop.

The greatest ever... (in no order)

Graves: Dominated 4x like nobody ever did. Has won XC races. Killer enduro racer and oh yeah, has podiumed in WC DH (not sure he has a win though)

Ann Caro: If she was a guy there would be no question who the best ever DH racer was. She's dominated both DH and enduro.

Johnny T: Who else can claim top rung road racing, XC racing and DH racing? Sure, the sport has changed but his spawning of Eli only further proves how strong the two wheeled genetics are in this family

Gwinny: You can't argue his ability to find the top step. To be so consistent at this level with such little time (relatively speaking) on a DH bike is unreal. He is on track to be the best DH racer of all time.

Nico: He found seconds where nobody else could. His ability to still find the podium in Enduro at nearly 40 is equally impressive. I never got to watch him ride in person but 9/10 World Champs says something

Barel: Maybe not the best ever but he's got to be on the list.

Minnaar: I actually forgot to add him my first go around mostly cause I think its so damn obvious. On paper, he's the best ever in DH and a formidable competitor in everything he's tried (4x, Dual, DS, etc)
Hill found his way to the top twice last year. Yes you have to stay on your bike to win, which is a big reason why he doesn't have more wins to his name.
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9/2/2015 6:59am
I love that on multiple occasions this year Troy Brosnan has talked about "riding like Sam Hill". The guy rode with Sam and now is team mates with Gwin, and still considers balls out fast riding to be "Sam Hill" riding...
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9/2/2015 5:02pm
there is only one real Peaty
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9/3/2015 3:30pm
To me, "Greatest of All Time" doesn't just mean wins or medals - it's about more than that.

I mention Peaty because he's more than podiums - his guidance to riders like Fairclough, Beaumont, "The Don" Neil Donoghue, and Bryceland was critical in helping them make it to the next level. His SPS (Steve Peat Syndicate) race program is an extension of this generosity toward the community and tutelage for developing riders. To all of the technological changes that came along since 1994, he successfully adapted and won races. On paper Minnaar, Nico and ACC have the most impressive resume', but I can't think of another rider that has the level of tenacity it takes to do what Peat did for a win at Worlds. Imagine not achieving a goal you desperately wanted 14 years in a row no matter how hard you tried. But he hammered on - never quit - never complained (although he joked about it) - never packed it in. That says a lot about Peat.
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9/3/2015 3:49pm
I can see and appreciate your point...but the question is sharp clear.
In F1 near nobody thinks Schumi is the GOAT, even if he has more titles than anyone else...Nor even Senna is considered the best (quite near).
(If you are interested a certain crazy little italian demon around 1930 is the Big GOAT...even for Enzo Ferrari himself).

Mtb is a pure sports discipline (ala Athletism) then if you show and do you can win again and again...then you earn your stripes

Nothing more and nothing else

PS
Well if you can beat everyone else chainless...then you'll have to be on top of the queue...at least !!!
ianjenn
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9/3/2015 8:12pm
AC she won 13 World Cup races in a row!
9/4/2015 5:54pm
I hate this question! Hill has always been the most exciting to watch race, IMO... well, since I started following the sport. Peaty has living legend status at this point and as someone mentioned above, has mentored plenty of young guns that have seen lots of success. Minnaar has the numbers, longevity and consistency. My #fanboy is showing, but I say Hill or Peaty, but there are plenty that deserve the title of GOAT.
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9/5/2015 2:50pm
Did we ever find out how Danny Hart sits down with balls that big? Surely that counts towards GOAT status.
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9/5/2015 2:54pm
Except he hasn't won anything since...
9/5/2015 6:09pm
Did we ever find out how Danny Hart sits down with balls that big? Surely that counts towards GOAT status.
Def one of the GROATs, that's for sure.

Top 5 GROATs:
Hill - Val di Sole
Hart - Champery
Hill - Champery
Gwin - Leogang
Kovarik - Fort William

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