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Hi all!
Wanted to start a thread for thoughts on coil sprung forks. Anybody have any experience with coil forks?
Wanted to start a thread for thoughts on coil sprung forks. Anybody have any experience with coil forks?
If you try to mix a coil fork with an air shock, I think the fork will always dive more than the shock, making the bike feel awkward. But that's just a guy that never tried a coil fork talking...
It would be nice to hear from coil users!
I've only run coil sprung DH forks, never on my AM bike. I am more intrigued by coil rear shocks as I have blown up far too many air shocks...never an air fork.
The coil sprung forks ive owned have all had their pluses and minuses (marz shiver, boxxer team, some experience with an older fox 40) but ive ended up back on air every time. (currently bos deville fcv and boxxer wc) That goes more to what I prefer sensation wise than to any downfall of a fork. Ive always found coil forks to be very supple, good at tracking the ground, good at dealing with arm pump etc but for me, the air works better. I would probably have a slightly different opinion if i rode drastically different terrain than i do, (home trails are lots of high speed, semi smooth trails rather than straight chunder all the time) so for my style and terrain, the way the stroke of the air fork can be tuned is far more important to me than how supple or plush it is. Coil forks tend to feel very soft and sluggish to me and they blow through their travel easier. This is of course a positive if your seeking that really plush rock gobbling feeling. In the front im more concerned with the fork being supple enough to track the ground while being stiff enough to hold itself up and preserve the geometry of the bike through repeated impacts at high speeds. A well tuned air fork just gives me the feeling im looking for from the front of the bike but again, thats based on my riding position, riding style and sensitivity to midstroke support.
I use a coil rear shock 100% of the time though because in the rear of the bike i want that plush stuck to the ground feeling, im less concerned with more frequent bottom out from the rear of the bike because my legs are alot stronger than my arms and much better at dealing with that sort of impact. Also, the stability of the bike that comes from the geometry isn't hampered by the rear bottoming as much as the front.
try a couple of options if you have the opportunity but also recognize that if you need to make a sight unseen decision, most of the high end stuff these days is pretty sweet regardless of coil or air.
My main concer with coil forks is that they may dive way more than air forks, increasing the chances of going OTB on steep sections.
But of course they are unbeatable in terms of eliminating arm pump...
And this very subject has been discussed quite a few time on french forums with guys like novyparts (the french vorsprung). According to him, coil doesn't suit short/mid travel forks because there isn't enough travel to absorb the hit. So, especially if you are an agressive rider, you end up with a fork either too hard, or too easy to bottom out.
My personal experience tend to concur. With a coil shock, it really depends on your bike's kinematic but you can get the suppleness and support of the coil without bottoming too easily. On a fork however, I really believe an extended negative air chamber is good way to go. You get a coil like suppleness with good bottom out control (so it is very sensitive and allows for a lot of grip, but as soon as you go deeper in the travel it can feel pretty hard).
On paper a coil spring with an air chamber to control bottom out could be quite awesome, but I'm not sure of how it would ride.
Anyway just my 2 cents and ultimately, just like it is for the shocks, I believe it's all about rider preferences, riding style and terrain.
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