Hey suspension peeps, got meself a bit of a mischief here
Serviced the dials whilst doing a 200hr service of the Super Deluxe B1 because she was super grimy and the dials barely moved. The LSC went back together great, stops at the correct points and clicks great. The issue is the lockout lever spins freely and does not feel 'attached' to anything.
This was noticed when we went to rebleed the system (using the rubber glove over the IFP chamber technique). The oil doesn't go anywhere which leads us to suspect that the lockout is stuck on. The issue is we cannot find any sort of diagram(s) or procedures (exploded view) or even any information anywhere on what the internals of this super deluxe LSC/Lockout assembly look like.
Oh and a little something else...dumb one on our behalf...but we have an extra piece, this machined 'rod'. Anyone know where this goes? Seems a little weird and doesn't seem to go in anywhere - especially not in the compression/base valve assembly - these two issues (suspiciously) do not seem to be correlated.
Lastly, the rebound dial (on top) was also munted dirty...yeah you can tell where this one's going...
There's these little seal type rings which go at the top and bottom of the dial. These rings don't have replacements in the 200hr service. They have expanded and now don't go back where they were (which makes sense considering the use and condition this was in...). Anyone know where to find replacements
Any pointers suspension tech crew?
Nice pics. Are they the one's taken whilst each step of disassembly progressed?
Nah just went and took these few at the end for some visuals with the text on this post aha.
Just came across the major problem where the lockout was stuck when reattaching the IFP chamber and attempting to bleed, the oil didn’t wanna budge. She’s cleaned, all the seals are done and changed up the shim stack a little which all went fine. About that metal rod that might not even be from the shock just checking if anyone knows…
Thought it’d be best to post this info here to help other out where I went wrong. Anyone feel free to correct me where my info isn't right🙃
Alright so we got ‘er back together and working well.
1. The spare rod...
So yes, that rod that was an extra was in fact the piece that sits between the reservoir and piggyback, to keep it aligned.
2. DIALS
No-where, anywhere does SRAM say that the dials are part of a service, or that there are ways to service them (not even an exploded diagram as to what the internals of the dials could look like. Issue is that these dials (rebound, LSC and lockout) get cloggy and gritty.
LOCK: The lockout does, correctly as pointed out by @t3mppu, work off a moving rod. The lever pushes the rod on lock, but then to unlock needs to be manually pushed back into place. This is the rod below the base valve assembly. If the lock lever feels like it’s not attached to anything, (free spin/‘float’) it means this rod is not sitting correct. If you do not have access to this rod (in the case the piggyback in still attached, and you are mid-bleed) you can chuck the IFP in and push on it, pressurising the oil and pushing this rod back into place.
REBOUND: My findings are that the rebound dial has two of these ‘seals’. While it worked so smoothly after a clean out and a little grease underneath the dial (the big one on top of the shock), there are 2 seals designed to keep said grime out. These seals in my case have worn and expanded, so will not go back into place. Replacements are not included in the 200hr and I’m yet to find a source. See the first post for reference.
LSC: The LSC dial does not seem to be serviceable at all at first. After a little poking, you’ll see a pinch bolt (you’ll need to remove the piggyback from the main body). This pinch bolt has a small spring and ball behind it, making the “clicking” mechanism of the dial. If she’s feeling real gritty give this a clean out but make sure TO NOT MISPLACE THAT BALL AND SPRING.
First time saying this but…coming from a DPX2 where a dial service is encouraged…I’ll say that in a rare win where Fox beats Rockshox in serviceability on this one.
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