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I'd be curious to see what your thoughts are regarding stem length too. I mean People rocking short CS with sub 50MM stems seems like it would naturally cause every bike to feel like they are on a wheelie machines. I'm thinking we've kinda ran with short stems and short CS for a bit too long and trying to make...

So, you're recommending the Smuggler over the Patrol. Been curious on what your thoughts where. To be fair, last 29' bike I had felt like the concept of changing directions was stupid and a sign of weakness. Needless to say, I don't own that bike anymore.