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Hey Armand you are a thinking fellow !! I think your last paragraph is a real good summary,... although maybe straight cut gears and get a big lever, haha smash it through... just joking,... not enough torque with a grip shift anyway, so release a little and slide it through, hey, guess what,.. just like a man should treat his derailleur ! if he wants a long and happy life with his mechanicals that is... Perfection will never exist perhaps but you never know .

Hi bizutch I cannot agree of course !! We are all a product of our experiences, yours have been bad perhaps with gearboxes I do not know. Perfection does not exist, I am sure you agree, I had not even thought of the fact the grip shift is a little fatter, remember of course you operate the shifter with only a finger or two. There are many many times I am in a tight fix and can then joyfully while NOT PEDALLING rotate through a huge number of gears,.. impossible with a trigger ! While around me if riding with...

haha I like your style Armand, it is good to debate ! You and bizutch have your views, we are all different in how we experience the ride. The Taniwha, grip shift and all, suits me well. I do not race but I still ride pretty hard on varied terrain. The shifter for me works very well. I understand your comments, but for me it has become very instinctive and I know the gear I am in. I think a gearbox bike is a change so big it is a disruption, a serious one, to the industry. For me it...

Bizutch you are either a part owner of the sram eagle or a brutal rider. There are many technical situations where immediate shifts of multiple gears can ONLY be achieved with a gearbox. But keep on making metallic mincemeat out of your ancient derailleur, you are clearly not a person who thinks outside the square or is prepared to invest in better technology.

My Transition cost $8k. My Zerode cost $10k. About 6,000k ridden on my Transition, about $2,000 of maintenance, largely derailleur related. About 3,000k riding on the Zerode, maintenance about $100 for the Zerode, replacement brake pads and an oil change. These are the facts. Do the sums. Both bikes excellent to ride. I went for a heavy build on the Z, I do not notice any drag at all and am very surprised at that comment by the reviewer. The gearbox is superior to the derailleur in almost every situation.