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Ronnie says it right!!! I live just outside of Chicago and love my Bomber. I'm having a great time ripping through trails at 6-7am on weekends, no sound means I'm not bothering anyone. If you live near a big city like I do, then a Bomber or Fighter is the ticket. If you are a BEAVERBIKER and live near perfect dirtbike trails, love maintaining and prepping your 450... then right next door are perfect mountain bike trails, then this may not be for you. Please try to find someone who will let you take a ride before making any judgements...