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These wheels are pretty bad. They came in a box where the hubs had ripped through the cardboard and one of the axle spacers was missing, probably from this hole. They gave me free rim inserts and really wanted me to use them, I know why. They dented pretty easily and I've lost tons of spokes. They also could never run tubeless even when I replaced the rim tape because they would leak air out the spoke holes on both rims,, meaning air was getting into the cavity of the wheel where it shouldn't have been. They felt decently stfiff...