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On Tuesday March 5th, Brandon Sloan and Jason Chamberlain from Specialized were Live in The Lounge at Cane Creek.

If you missed the live chat, we have the transcript for you right here:

Tuesday March 5, 2013

11:46

Cane Creek: Hi all, we are waiting until 12 EST to begin, but please feel free to send in your questions now for Brandon and Jason.

11:58

Cane Creek: Alright, we will begin. Cane Creek would like to welcome Jason Chamberlain and Brandon Sloan to The Lounge for this special one hour live chat.

11:59

Cane Creek: Our first question is from "Riverman":

11:59

Comment From riverman

How light can I build an Enduro 29 if I go all in?

12:00

B.Sloan@Specialized: Good question. My personal E29 is 26 pounds in a medium. If you get super crazy you could get into the 25 pound range!

12:00

Comment From Jason

How does the new Enduro 29 with its longer travel platform and taller fork compare to the 26" version on the trail? Does the revised Enduro 29 front derailleur mount affect ISCG-05 tabs / guide usage in any way?

12:02

Comment From ogary

What is your daily supplement routine? Have you checked out broscience?

12:02

B.Sloan@Specialized: I start my day with a COLD Dr. Pepper. The ones from Texas with the real sugar are the best!

12:03

Comment From brapfest

Is there a coil shock option for the Enduros?

12:03

Jason Chamberlain: The Enduro 29 features all the traction and roll over benefits that big wheel riders love. The 26 retains the quick, playful nature of the smaller wheels.

The "taco blade" front derailleur is fully compatible with ISCG05.

12:04

Comment From icepick

Will there a small size in Enduro29?

12:04

Jason Chamberlain: No, there will not be a size small Enduro 29 offered. With the long wheel travel, you simply can't slam the seat as low as a small rider would want before the tire hits the saddle.

12:05

B.Sloan@Specialized: For the Enduro 26, we make an Enduro EVO 26 that comes with a coil shock. You can contact Cane Creek for upgrade options for the base model and there is a Double Barrel already on the Expert. For the E29, no coil options at this moment.

12:05

Comment From Jason

What bikes are you currently riding with Cane Creek Double Barrels?

12:06

B.Sloan@Specialized: We have DBs and DB Airs on Demos, Enduros, Status bikes, Enduro EVO, and even a Stumpy FSR for some interesting testing.

12:06

Comment From Jason

Brandon, have you ever been to the Dr. Pepper museum? They make it fresh for you there.

12:07

B.Sloan@Specialized: Not yet, maybe this coming year!

12:07

Comment From Corndog

Will Spec be rolling out any 650b bikes?

12:07

Comment From Henry

Do you see the taco blade / shorter chainstay paradigm trickling down to bikes with less travel than the new enduro29?

12:08

Jason Chamberlain: Yes, on bikes that have space constraints, the taco blade is a great solution.

12:08

Comment From onionsandcilantro

Brandon & Jason - which do you ride - Enduro 29 or 26?

12:09

Jason Chamberlain: We ride them all, including the in between size ;)

12:09

B.Sloan@Specialized: 650b is much closer to 26" than 29", many think that it is right in the middle though. We like 29, if you are going to go big, might as well go all the way if you can build them right! This E29 is ridiculously fun to ride so we didn't need a 650 option right now. We are always paying attention to what is going on out there on the trails though...

12:10

Comment From scotergloves

Jason: Who would in a cage match between you and Dave Weagle?

12:12

Comment From downhil

Is gwin happy with the Hill-spec'd Demo?

12:12

B.Sloan@Specialized: Oh man, the show down!!

The Czar of FSR is calm and cool in the office but I suspect that if you cage this beast Weagle wouldn't stand a chance! Hahaha!

12:12

Jason Chamberlain: Gwin was immediately comfortable on the stock Demo. Of course we will make tweaks if he likes.

12:13

Comment From Martin

Will there be a legacy option to fit a CCDB air or coil to the 2010-2012 Enduro? The people demand it! ;-)

12:14

Cane Creek: Martin, this is something that we are looking into. We are still gauging the interest to do the custom parts required.

12:14

Comment From iRideEnd26

Personally, what do you like best about the 29 enduro? Do see the Enduro 29 and similar bikes taking over the market?

12:14

Comment From postal

One of the highlights with the new Enduro29 is the internal route command post. Is the current 2013 Enduro26 able to accept an IR post?

12:14

Jason Chamberlain: The 2013 Enduro is not compatible with IR.

12:15

B.Sloan@Specialized: The Enduro platform all-around is out of control fun. I love the E26 but the big wheels roll over rocks and what-not so well and the bike is crazy fast. Because of the tight wheelbase and rear end, the bike is still super fun and snappy. So overall, the E29 is just fast and makes up for more of my mistakes :)

12:15

Comment From Jason

Weight wise, what is the penalty of the Enduro 29 vs and Enduro 26? Do you know what bike Anneke & Curtis plan on riding?

12:16

Comment From Malcolm

Hey Brandon, back in our training days when you lived here in Asheville who's mullet was sexier yours or mine?

12:16

Jason Chamberlain: The weight difference between 26 and 29 is about 1.4 lbs.

Anneke and Curtis are both running 29.

12:16

B.Sloan@Specialized: Jason Malcolm had me handled in all aspects

12:17

Comment From Bigfoot

when is the sasquatch signature edition coming out?

12:18

Comment From Guest

Generally do you find the proper spring rate for a DB coil to be lower than those used/needed for other brand coil shocks?

12:18

B.Sloan@Specialized: Legally, we have to have his John Hancock for the frame... we haven't nailed him down for this yet, stay tuned

12:18

Jason Chamberlain: It depends on the platform, rider, etc. Often the springs are the same as other brands but somtimes 50lbs heavier as well.

12:18

Comment From downhil

are there plans for 29" enduro evo or similar? Big wheel enduro sx trail?

12:19

Comment From SugarBumm

Doesn't the steep seat angle of the Enduro29 throw the balance of the bike off?

12:19

Jason Chamberlain: We are always looking at what makes sense.

12:20

B.Sloan@Specialized: When descending, you are not sitting down so that doesn't make a difference. For climbing, we run an offset seatpost that gets the effective seat tube angle where we want it.

12:20

Comment From downhil

would you rather fight 100 duck sized horses, or 1 horse sized duck?

12:20

Jason Chamberlain: You will have to ask Matt Hunter.

12:21

Comment From Alex Bam

Why no XL s-works enduro 26"? I'm 6'5" and pretty bummed that I won't be riding one this year

12:21

B.Sloan@Specialized: Ride an E29, you won't be disappointed!!

12:22

Comment From Paul Bunyan

Are there any major changes in the Epic or Camber you know of for this up coming year release?

12:22

B.Sloan@Specialized: Yes we know, we are never sitting around :)

12:23

Comment From Not Fair

why isn't the S-works version e29 available in the US

12:24

Comment From Guest

Will the Enduro 29 be available in a small frame eventually?

12:24

B.Sloan@Specialized: The USA market had a buying strategy that went awry. They are working on getting some, keep your fingers crossed. Or fly to Germany.

12:24

Comment From SugarBum

My Specialized CommandPost raises very fast. On occasion it's taken it's toll on my manhood. Any way to slow that down so it cradles the boys more like a Reverb does?

12:25

Jason Chamberlain: Unfortunately, it would never be a "true" small. You could never get your saddle low enough in the slammed position.

12:25

Comment From Greg

What is the frame weight difference between the carbon and aluminum models?

12:25

Jason Chamberlain: Weight diff between alloy and carbon is about 1 lb.

12:25

B.Sloan@Specialized: All the Command Posts are controlled with air pressure. 45psi is the max but should come with a bag of frozen peas... try lowering the pressure by 5 psi with the seatpost fully extended until you get what you and your boys want.

12:26

Comment From Nick

For my SWorks, other than the reccomended settings that came on the tag, are there any base tunes or tuning tips that you guys have found to be popular on that bike? There is no "base tune" for the Sworks on the Cane Creek Lounge site, just the EVO

12:26

Comment From Cane Creek Holly

Nick - you can grab the base tune on our website: http://www.canecreek.com/products/suspension/db-air/base-tunes and fine tune your S-Works using our Tuning Field Guide http://www.canecreek.com/resources/products/suspension/double-barrel/DB_Field_guide.pdf.

12:26

Comment From Tim

When are you going to come out with a rear tire in the SX compound to complement the Butcher SX? What would you recommend right now?

12:26

B.Sloan@Specialized: Try a Butcher SX in rear, it's crazy fun! Did you have another tread in mind?

12:27

Comment From Guest

Will we be able to demo the Enduro 29 in the US?

12:27

B.Sloan@Specialized: There will be several Expert Carbon 29s in the Test the Best programs in the coming months, so yes.

12:27

Comment From Jaydawg

Enduro EVO is only in Canada, any plans for USA ?

12:28

B.Sloan@Specialized: The EVO is available in the USA, they just sold very quickly. Your shop should be able to contact other Specialized shops to find one.

12:28

Comment From ncwise

Any answers to Yeti's switch technology?

12:29

Comment From Jake

Are the Al Enduro Comp 29s available in the US now?

12:29

Jason Chamberlain: What is the question about the Switch?

12:29

B.Sloan@Specialized: They will be available at the end of the month/early April

12:29

Comment From badbietz

Will there be Demo Enduro 29's at Sea Otter?

12:29

Jason Chamberlain: Yes.

12:30

Comment From Nick

Speaking of tires, I was getting way too many cuts and punctures in the Purgatory SWorks and found out about Specialized's 30-day Satisfaction Guarantee, my shop is replacing with a Control version, very happy about the replacement policy, THANKS!

12:30

B.Sloan@Specialized: Very cool, glad they took care of you!

12:31

Comment From Martin

Is it true that frames are designed around an optimal front chain ring size for pedalling? If so what is this size on the new enduro and the old one as XX1 is very different to normal front tooth numbers?

12:31

Jason Chamberlain: The FSR is effective over a wider range of gears than a single pivot design. We optimize it over the range of gears it will most likely be spec'd with.

12:31

Comment From Alex Bam

Any idea when the Works E29 will be available in the states? Will it be sold as frame only?

12:32

B.Sloan@Specialized: They are working on bringing some in, potentially (no promises) in April/May. For sure by June though. And yes, there will be framesets.

12:32

Comment From Jason

Cane Creek - Have you ever tested / benchmarked the shaft treatments on the DBA vs Kashima / RockShox? How does it compare?

12:33

Comment From AlbertTheFifthMusketeer

Where do you see the future of MTB development heading? Do you think internal electronic gearing will have race potential in the near future?

12:33

Jason Chamberlain: No. Internal gearing of any sort is very far off from matching the performance of the much maligned derailleur transmission.

12:33

Comment From Jason

Brandon, I saw you riding a Zerode in whistler. Do you guys ever plan on offering a similar / gearbox bike?

12:33

B.Sloan@Specialized: We are always testing and trying out new ideas. The Zerode was pretty interesting/different... that is a whole other undertaking.

12:33

Comment From CaneCreekJosh

From Pinkbike "Ask Us Anything" - "We are always exploring technologies that improve Double Barrel function, so in that sense we are also exploring coatings. From our testing, our current coating technology (I guess we should name it) performs exactly as it should. We are not willing to weight form over function at our customer's expense. That is to say, sometimes the engineers actually win the battle with marketing at Cane Creek. - CaneCreekJosh: We are always exploring technologies that improve Double Barrel function, so in that sense we are also exploring coatings. From our testing, our current coating technology (I guess we should name it) performs exactly as it should. We are not willing to weight form over function at our customer's expense. That is to say, sometimes the engineers actually win the battle with marketing at Cane Creek."

12:34

Comment From Just some dude

How did you have to pay Gwin?

12:34

B.Sloan@Specialized: He likes gluten-free chocolate chip cookies...

12:34

Comment From SugarBum

Will Specialized ever move away from the Horst Link design or is it here to stay?

12:34

Jason Chamberlain: We are always look for improved systems. We will move if/when we come up with something better.

12:35

Comment From Alex

I'm looking at getting a new Stumpjumper FSR Evo but I can't decide between 26 and 29. I've ridden 26's all my life, is it really worth it to make the jump to 29?

12:35

Jason Chamberlain: Only you can answer that. Test ride them both. I can tell you that most people are preferring the 29.

12:37

Comment From EJ

Would you estimate at some point carbon frame cost will come close to that of the same frame design in Aluminum?

12:37

Jason Chamberlain: The price of carbon comes down all the time, especially from the large companies with purchasing power. However it will never match alloy prices due to the raw material and labor involved.

12:38

Comment From Alex

Sadly I don't live in an area that allows me to test ride them, there is no way I could ride them back to back at one shop in my area, I'd be lucky if they had either bike in stock and in my size...

12:38

Jason Chamberlain: Go with the 29 then.

12:38

Comment From badbietz

The new Roval hookless-bead tubeless system sounds a little scary on an aggressive Enduro Bike. When set up tubeless and hammering through rocky terrain is this justified? Do you have to run more air pressure then normal to keep the tire on for hard hits?

12:38

B.Sloan@Specialized: You are right, it sounds scary... but it works. We tested both with very high pressures (called a blow-off test) that tests how high we can run the pressure before the tire blows off the rim. With the hookless design, we were well over 120psi before the rim failed... but the tire never blew off. At low pressures, it's no different than a regualr tire, it will still come off if you get crazy low (like in the teens); the nice thing is that it's easier to reseat that a regular rim. Above all else, the design is stronger because the fibers are continuous with no interruptions; we have been testing for months and months with no impact failures. They are strong!

12:39

Comment From max

What's your preferred rear tire for enduro racing in the Western US? Something that rolls fast, grippy, but holds up to the rocks...

12:39

B.Sloan@Specialized: The Ground Control in Control casing. 2.3"

12:39

Comment From Jason

Brandon/Jason: Where did you get your education and what was it in? Any other interesting jobs you've had?

12:39

Jason Chamberlain: I graduated from the Colorado School of Mines. My first job right out of school was designing o-rings. Only lasted a month.

12:40

Comment From Greg

With the release of the E29, any plans from Spec to offer some beefier front tires (>2.3") for 29ers?

12:40

B.Sloan@Specialized: We are looking at some options... that is a big honkin tire though!

12:40

Comment From AlbertTheFifthMusketeer

What's your favourite beer?

12:40

B.Sloan@Specialized: Dr. Pepper

12:41

Comment From badbietz

If you purchase an Enduro Comp or Expert and would like to upgrade the rear shock do you need to special order from Specialized or the Shock Vendor directly like Cane Creek? Also can you get a Monarch Plus that fits, I see team riders with these on theirs.

12:42

Comment From Cane Creek Holly

Badbietz - you can purchase that directly from Cane Creek - email info@canecreek.com.

12:42

Comment From AlbertTheFifthMusketeer

Were there any features that you struggled to/were unable to accommodate in the Enduro29? What were your major design headaches when tackling the project?

12:42

Jason Chamberlain: Squeezing in the rear tire while maintaining our desired geo and performance was very tough. That is where the taco blade design came from.

12:43

Comment From Stevo

Concerning the al Enduros that will become available in April; how many of them are already spoken for, roughly speaking? And what's the next stock window estimate?

12:43

B.Sloan@Specialized: You'll have to check with your local shop, we don't have great visibility of that level. Word on the street is that they will be tough to get...

12:44

Comment From Tim

What fork is Keene using on his E29?

12:44

Comment From steve

Any plans to work with RockShox for the front fork in 2014? Saw it in that Vital vid.

12:44

B.Sloan@Specialized: Prototype RockShox... we will see how it goes

12:44

Comment From Martin

How did you get on with the BOS Devilles that were on one of the development bikes?

12:45

B.Sloan@Specialized: Pretty amazing fork, hats off to those guys

12:46

Cane Creek: Hi guys, I just wanted to let everyone know that we are trying to get to as many questions as possible!

12:46

Comment From Jake

Any chance on getting future non-Sworks carbon Epics with a non-Brain fork?

12:46

B.Sloan@Specialized: All the forks are cartridges, you could drop in a regular damper. Having issues?

12:47

Comment From louis mollett

What should i set my vivid air at on my demo. Im 160lbs

12:47

Jason Chamberlain: You should set it on the workbench :)

12:47

Comment From Cane Creek Holly

WHoop WHoop

12:48

Comment From CaneCreekJosh

While you are installing your Double Barrel

12:48

Comment From Enduro

There's been a lot of debate around the Enduros being equipped with 15mm Fox 34's instead of 20mm Lyriks. I find this very odd since you've increased the travel to 165, and even some Stumpy models are equipped with 20mm Revelations. How come you chose the Fox 34 in favor for the more descend-friendly 160mm Lyrik?

12:48

B.Sloan@Specialized: The Lyrik is a nice fork for sure but heavier and there is a point where the bigger forks are not necessarily better... they get very stiff and for most riders that means they won't track as well. For certain riders, absolutely this would be good. But we like the balance of the weight and stiffness of the FOX 15mm.

12:49

Comment From AlbertTheFifthMusketeer

What bikes do you have in your personal stables? Any none Specialized bikes? like a fat bike for example.

12:49

Jason Chamberlain: Yes, I have a Fatbike. And I paid retail for it.

12:50

Comment From Nick

What makes you guys prefer the Ground Control over the Purgatory on the rear, why spec the Purgatory then? Any psi recommendations that people like running those tires set up tubless on the 26 Sworks? I've always run my tires around 28, scared to go lower

12:50

B.Sloan@Specialized: The GC rolls faster, the Purg has the grip advantage... just depends on your style and terrain (and weather). I run 28psi in the rear, plenty low for my 155 pounds.

12:51

Comment From Martin

Which do you recommend for sheilding impacts from rocks - bash ring or taco? Which will stress the frame less?

12:51

Jason Chamberlain: A bash ring protects your ISCG tabs better than a taco, but we really haven't found it to be an issue with either design. You can destroy anything if you hit it hard enough.

12:51

Comment From badbietz

My wife is a little over 5'5" tall and currently rides a 26" Stumpy. It's time for an upgrade, what are your thoughts on shorter people on 29ers? I was thinking 27.5 would be good for her based on height. She likes to shred down hill as much as possible as well.

12:51

B.Sloan@Specialized: We have a woman in the building at 5 feet even on 29ers. We really focus on the geo to make sure the vertically challenged get the best bikes as well. Keep your eyes peeled this month for something for your wife on the trails :)

12:52

Comment From Anthony

I work at a Specialized dealer and I was surprised when I found out that there would be no 26" full-suspension bikes in a 21" size for 2013. Was that purely a reflection on 2012 sales?

12:52

Jason Chamberlain: We think XL riders are better served on 29.

12:52

Comment From Scrub

Where's the P3 Slope?

12:52

Comment From Scrub

Any updates on the P3 Slope? Availability?

12:52

B.Sloan@Specialized: Mid April... they are in production right now!!!

12:53

Comment From Scrub

Thanks!!

12:53

Comment From Guest

how would you compare the GC to the Captain in the Control casing as a rear tire?

12:53

B.Sloan@Specialized: SImilar grip, the GC is faster rolling though, that's why we made the switch.

12:54

Comment From EJ

Any chance CC plans to build a Demo 8 DB air version for the current generation Demo platform? Adjust-ability is a good thing.

12:54

Comment From Andres

I noticed a little lever on CCDB-air's low speed compression adjuster. Great idea & will it be available to public?

12:54

Jason Chamberlain: That is a Specialized only feature on all CCDB Air shocks.

12:55

Comment From Cane Creek Josh

Both Cane Creek and Specialized are looking into it but so far we haven't made a serious commitment.

12:55

Comment From Andres

When will E29 frame-sets be available?

12:56

B.Sloan@Specialized: They will be in the shops in April/May but not sure on the USA. Your Specialized shop should be able to get you dates.

12:56

Comment From badbietz

Cane Creek folks, I've heard mixed reviews on the DB Air on the Carbon Nomad, will the new Large Volume air can help it perform as good as it does on other bikes?

12:56

Jason Chamberlain: The problem isn't the DB Air. Try an Enduro :)

12:57

Comment From steve

Oh snap!

12:58

Comment From iRideEnd26

What makes a 29 more suitable for larger riders? Are you talking about uphill or downhill specifically or just in general? Im 6'4" and have thought about getting the E29 but I want something suitable for Bike parks as well. Will this do the trick?

12:58

Jason Chamberlain: In general - up and down. It will be great in bike parks.

12:59

B.Sloan@Specialized: Wheel size vs. height is becoming less and less the issue; more just pick what bike is best for you. E29 for the park... this is an All-Mountain bike so it depends on the park but it can handle the same abuse as an E26.

12:59

Cane Creek: Thank you everyone for coming to this live chat with Specialized. One final question...taking a page from our Pinkbike fan Sweatypants: The Enduro 29 looks to be the best bike ever - can you recommend a seat that will coincide with the constant erection I am certain to get when I ride it?

1:00

B.Sloan@Specialized: Probably one with your wife/girlfriend on it!

1:01

Cane Creek: We had so many questions. Sorry we couldn't get to all of them today, but thank you again to Brandon and Jason.

Catch up on more chatter at the Lounge at Cane Creek!



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