All Things Vital Downhill Fantasy

BGoldstone
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6/14/2024 4:59pm
sspomer wrote:
val di sole is open for picks. this is a saturday race, so picks must be made by 10pm PST Friday (about 37 hours from now)...

val di sole is open for picks.

this is a saturday race, so picks must be made by 10pm PST Friday (about 37 hours from now).

https://www.vitalmtb.com/fantasy/manage-team

going through making my picks I see one flaw in how riders are ranked. If they don't qualify it doesn't count as a result. So Lisa Bouladou is ranked as having her last finish be 3rd. Which was her MSA JR result. She hasn't made a final this year and is coming in more expensive then Phoebe Gale who has a 7th and 8th this season. Just something to look into for the future.

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Eoin
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6/15/2024 10:24am
Eoin wrote:
I don't want to give too much away during the season, but there are definitely some cool strategies to work with, the way vital set up...

I don't want to give too much away during the season, but there are definitely some cool strategies to work with, the way vital set up the league is pretty interesting.

As mentioned above, Asa could win every round and would still be too expensive. There are a couple things vital could do with the pricing to help, but I'm keeping my thoughts to myself until the last round Smile

Welp, looks like I knew nothing and will be tumbling down the rankings

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cantstop
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6/15/2024 2:32pm
Eoin wrote:
I don't want to give too much away during the season, but there are definitely some cool strategies to work with, the way vital set up...

I don't want to give too much away during the season, but there are definitely some cool strategies to work with, the way vital set up the league is pretty interesting.

As mentioned above, Asa could win every round and would still be too expensive. There are a couple things vital could do with the pricing to help, but I'm keeping my thoughts to myself until the last round Smile

Eoin wrote:

Welp, looks like I knew nothing and will be tumbling down the rankings

There wasn't a huge selection of riders that were positive points/$ like in previous rounds, the results will be interesting. I'm definitely dropping down though, that was a rough one. 

LePigPen
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6/15/2024 3:33pm
Eoin wrote:
I don't want to give too much away during the season, but there are definitely some cool strategies to work with, the way vital set up...

I don't want to give too much away during the season, but there are definitely some cool strategies to work with, the way vital set up the league is pretty interesting.

As mentioned above, Asa could win every round and would still be too expensive. There are a couple things vital could do with the pricing to help, but I'm keeping my thoughts to myself until the last round Smile

Eoin wrote:

Welp, looks like I knew nothing and will be tumbling down the rankings

lol i was thinking of trying to snipe your account after you said that but when i saw how things were going in VDS i was like... its a crapshoot. the only really sure bet was amaury somehow hit that top gear like nobody else. didnt bother him at all.

Murdock
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6/15/2024 5:57pm

Just want to say big thanks to Vital for the coverage. This fantasy format has me more engaged than ever, watching all the Raw's and trackwalks, paying attention through quali,and semi's, adjusting strategy, making changes to my squad all weekend. Just stoked, big props to all that make it happen!

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segamethod
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6/15/2024 6:47pm
Murdock wrote:
Just want to say big thanks to Vital for the coverage. This fantasy format has me more engaged than ever, watching all the Raw's and trackwalks...

Just want to say big thanks to Vital for the coverage. This fantasy format has me more engaged than ever, watching all the Raw's and trackwalks, paying attention through quali,and semi's, adjusting strategy, making changes to my squad all weekend. Just stoked, big props to all that make it happen!

Could not agree more. I’ve been a passing spectator of the World Cups for years, but this year I’m INTO IT. Thanks Vital.

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Eoin
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6/16/2024 12:56pm Edited Date/Time 6/16/2024 12:57pm

Not as catastrophic as expected, I had a lot of the riders from the best possible team, but Jess Blewit was a hard hit on the points, just like Tahnee in Leogang, oh well that's racing.

As above, I love that Vital's fantasy implementation rewards underdogs from all categories, it actually makes the entire show more exciting, rather than just tuning in for the top 10 men!

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LePigPen
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6/16/2024 2:35pm

Same, got 954. I did quite good other than flushing 170k on jess Sad

 

on to da next

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BGoldstone
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6/16/2024 4:06pm

15th on the day puts me tied for 40th. Not bad since Ollie missed out on points. Some junior men underscored for me but junior women made up for it. 
 

sitting second overall in The Race Companion league. Behind Goldstone’s Knee. Lol

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LePigPen
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6/16/2024 4:18pm

id like to place 5th at some point to get that t shirt. its hilarious how bummed i would be if i finished 4th instead.

the 1st place price is crazy sick however. wondering what first place overall prize will be.

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sspomer
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6/16/2024 7:20pm

glad it's been fun for everyone! i feel the same way about being way more tuned in than ever before. hope it helps the sport grow! i must have lucked out round 1 b/c i've been in the high just below 900 points every round since. vali and myriam results def dropped my $/pt value this week

re: @BGoldstone and your message above - we're always trying to hone in rider values etc, so we'll keep trying there. it won't happen this year most likely, but displaying non-finals points/results better is the in plans as well.

putting Val di Sole standings link here just because - https://www.vitalmtb.com/fantasy/standings?season=All&round=31346

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LePigPen
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6/16/2024 7:34pm

was just checkin everyones scores, and i noticed for the overall standings alis well ahead with that 1680. a score well above the 'max score' of most of the events we see.

did we change the points payout at some point? or did he actually just ace a perfect team or something?

and in those regards, will the end of year overall be decided on outright points or do a placings calculation (1st 2nd 3rd etc for each event that add up then lowest number)

feel like im missin somethin with that first winning score being much higher than the max scores we see now

BGoldstone
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6/16/2024 8:35pm
LePigPen wrote:
was just checkin everyones scores, and i noticed for the overall standings alis well ahead with that 1680. a score well above the 'max score' of...

was just checkin everyones scores, and i noticed for the overall standings alis well ahead with that 1680. a score well above the 'max score' of most of the events we see.

did we change the points payout at some point? or did he actually just ace a perfect team or something?

and in those regards, will the end of year overall be decided on outright points or do a placings calculation (1st 2nd 3rd etc for each event that add up then lowest number)

feel like im missin somethin with that first winning score being much higher than the max scores we see now

the perfect score was higher that round. more than 1800.

But they had 27 players and 25 scored points so that's going to give a higher score.

LePigPen
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6/16/2024 8:55pm

i need to start lurkin iceman, jason, and your teams lol

6/17/2024 1:46am

It's expected for the points to go down throughout the year, as the early season underdogs will be getting pricier and pricier.

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iceman2058
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6/17/2024 3:23am
LePigPen wrote:

i need to start lurkin iceman, jason, and your teams lol

LOL I somehow managed to get myself on the first page of results for the Val di Sole round, despite a couple of my picks letting me down. I'll take it...but I wouldn't recommend lurkin my picks there's not a lot to 'em LOL LOL!

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Yoda
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6/17/2024 5:51am
sspomer wrote:
glad it's been fun for everyone! i feel the same way about being way more tuned in than ever before. hope it helps the sport grow...

glad it's been fun for everyone! i feel the same way about being way more tuned in than ever before. hope it helps the sport grow! i must have lucked out round 1 b/c i've been in the high just below 900 points every round since. vali and myriam results def dropped my $/pt value this week

re: @BGoldstone and your message above - we're always trying to hone in rider values etc, so we'll keep trying there. it won't happen this year most likely, but displaying non-finals points/results better is the in plans as well.

putting Val di Sole standings link here just because - https://www.vitalmtb.com/fantasy/standings?season=All&round=31346

You guys are killing it, the fantasy model is fun and well thought out. Really curious about the overall impact of fantasy (Vital + PCool on the engagement KPIs of WCDH (your sites, teams, broadcasters).

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sspomer
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7/3/2024 3:27pm

Les Gets Fantasy is open.

https://www.vitalmtb.com/fantasy/2024/les-gets

Bear in mind the UCI still has not submitted the official qualifying start list which we usually build from. the Les Gets game is opened with the "Entry" list. some of the riders you can choose may not be racing and there could be riders missing from the list. when the start list is made available, we'll add/delete accordingly. if you don't pick a team until closer to the race (after qualis/semis), none of this will matter : )

LePigPen
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7/3/2024 3:31pm

already picked my perfect team with 0 remaining budget and def wont have to change it 6 times before finals 4sher

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sspomer
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7/4/2024 7:36am

les gets official start lists just arrived (after timed training started). will update rosters accordingly in the next couple hours.

sspomer
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7/4/2024 10:16am

 fantasy has been updated. all riders in the race were already in there, but if a racer was not on the quali start list, they've been marked as "out" which has a medical flag. doesn't necessarily mean they're hurt, but they aren't racing, so def someone you don't want to pick : )

https://www.vitalmtb.com/fantasy/manage-team

Splayleg
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7/4/2024 5:02pm

Speaking of which Laurie Greenland sounds like he is just track side for this one unfortunately 

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bulletbass man
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7/6/2024 12:27am Edited Date/Time 7/6/2024 12:27am

So will fantasy points go by juniors qualis?

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7/6/2024 7:02am

I think I scored just short of 1200 points counting juniors. No idea if it's good or bad

sspomer
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7/6/2024 8:41am

So will fantasy points go by juniors qualis?

looks like it, but we'll discuss internally. what a day?!

LePigPen
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7/6/2024 10:30am

regardless of methodology i already know my team is in shambles. DH is just the best.

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BGoldstone
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7/6/2024 2:01pm

So will fantasy points go by juniors qualis?

sspomer wrote:

looks like it, but we'll discuss internally. what a day?!

It should. How else would they score. Took a different approach this week and ended up with 1,2 & 4 on the women’s side somehow

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sspomer
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7/6/2024 8:51pm

fantasy results have been compiled and are processing, they should show up shortly. we went with how the UCI scored it, which is juniors earning points based on their qualifying results due to canceled finals.

same structure as if it was finals (1st place 60 etc, top 25 Jr Men and top 10 Jr. Women).

here are the standings PDFs that show junior results and scores since they didn't have an actual finals results sheet.

Junior Men (PDF)

Junior Women (PDF)

Les Gets is Round 5, Points (Position)

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