I generally enjoy that podcast but that was a huge miss for me. I hit stop and haven’t restarted it… turns out “I have a secret...
I generally enjoy that podcast but that was a huge miss for me. I hit stop and haven’t restarted it… turns out “I have a secret but I’m not telling” is always a bummer.
Agreed, huge miss. They have always included team rumors in the podcast and that's been part of the allure for listeners. Should have just edited that...
Agreed, huge miss. They have always included team rumors in the podcast and that's been part of the allure for listeners. Should have just edited that part out completely.
I wonder if they recorded it and then had second thoughts at the last minute after the podcast editor had all put together and was too...
I wonder if they recorded it and then had second thoughts at the last minute after the podcast editor had all put together and was too booked to make a revision...so they just bleeped it and uploaded it rather than trying to cut around it and find a way to still make it feel like a natural conversation.
Either way, I don't really care. I'm not a person who experiences anxiety or any sort of fomo around not knowing stuff like team news though I'm always curious (hence me being in this thread).
Hey guys,
Sorry, only just discovered this thread! We decided not to broadcast the team rumours as we thought it was too soon. The last thing we want is to damage a rider's current season or a future opportunity. Before we broke the Minnaar to Norco story last year I spoke with Greg to check that if we published it wasn't going to **** it up for him. I think once the season's finished it should be cool. Apologies for the volume of the beeps, everything goes through a compressor so I thought they shouldn't be too loud
About to drop an episode from Champery last weekend & chatted to a few people about next season. Think it goes live in about 10 mins.
Hey guys,Sorry, only just discovered this thread! We decided not to broadcast the team rumours as we thought it was too soon. The last thing we...
Hey guys,
Sorry, only just discovered this thread! We decided not to broadcast the team rumours as we thought it was too soon. The last thing we want is to damage a rider's current season or a future opportunity. Before we broke the Minnaar to Norco story last year I spoke with Greg to check that if we published it wasn't going to **** it up for him. I think once the season's finished it should be cool. Apologies for the volume of the beeps, everything goes through a compressor so I thought they shouldn't be too loud
About to drop an episode from Champery last weekend & chatted to a few people about next season. Think it goes live in about 10 mins.
Warning: pile of text incoming.
Ah yes! The trusty compressor!
Unfortunately compressors can only look at the amount of voltage (in the analog days and the digital equivalent of voltage in these digital days) to determine when to act and how much action to do.
That doesn't take into consideration how anything actually sounds, though. For example, a low frequency noise and a high frequency noise at the same "voltage" are perceived by a listener as wildly different volumes because humans are more sensitive to higher frequencies AND it takes more voltage to reproduce a lower frequency at the same perceived volume as a high frequency through speakers.
So, what does this mean in this case? Human ears are sensitive as hell to those "bleep" sorts of frequencies. Compressing those to be the same "voltage" as the spread of voice frequencies means those bleeps still sound loud as shit even if the compressor says they're all the same voltage. Literally turn 'em down something like an extra 6 to 9db and you should be in the ballpark.
And don't get me STARTED about how people balance audio levels between voices and music in podcasts and videos by watching and matching the meters!
...but now that I've started I'll be brief...
We don't perceive peak volumes, we perceive short term average volumes (slight oversimplification but applicable in this case). The average of a voiceover - even when compressed really hard - can be 12db (or more) quieter than the average volume of music while their peak volumes can be very similar. They'll look identical on the meters because the peaks are the same but the music will be RIPPIN' FUCKING LOUD because it's average volume is so much higher. But people are very often looking at a peak meter to help them determine average volume. That's why on 8 out of 10 podcasts and 88 out of 100 videos the music is loud and the voices will be much quieter to the point that you have to quickly adjust volumes (or just ride the hearing damage lightning) between the intro/outro music and the actual content of the podcast/video.
I love the podcast! Thanks for doing it!
I only say this audio stuff because sound is kind of a dark art and no one ever explained it to me or offers to explain it to anyone else. I just had to not have friends or sleep for 10 years of my life while working in audio/video advertising during the day and making records with bands at night to really figure it out. There's a lot to learn but just knowing a few things (like that perceived average vs peak volume thing above) can really move you forward.
Bottom line: you really do HAVE to listen to everything - just going off meters doesn't work. The hardest part is the fact that the longer you work on a specific piece of audio the more we become accustomed to and accepting of how wrong it might actually sound. Brains are dumb and our ears give us more information than our brain can consciously notice so it starts to just accept what it hears as fine when it's potentially as bad or worse than it started. So we can't even trust what we hear some of the time. If you can listen at lower volumes (to prevent ear fatigue), take a 15 minute ear break before you do a final listen and push "send" on anything, and understand the concept of peak metering having very little correlation to perceived volume you'll be SO FAR AHEAD OF THE GAME compared to 80% of the other podcasts.
Sorry for the big bunch of text. Reach out to me - anyone - if you need a bit of help with your audio (in an unhired advice sort of way or a hire me to solve your problems sort of way). I didn't waste my life learning it - I run a recording studio and get to make cool music with cool artists every day - but learning to do it all took SO MUCH TIME that it doesn't need to take and I think people just accept less-than-ideal (or worse) audio rather than spending the time getting over the knowledge mountain that needs to be scaled to make decent audio.
Hey guys,Sorry, only just discovered this thread! We decided not to broadcast the team rumours as we thought it was too soon. The last thing we...
Hey guys,
Sorry, only just discovered this thread! We decided not to broadcast the team rumours as we thought it was too soon. The last thing we want is to damage a rider's current season or a future opportunity. Before we broke the Minnaar to Norco story last year I spoke with Greg to check that if we published it wasn't going to **** it up for him. I think once the season's finished it should be cool. Apologies for the volume of the beeps, everything goes through a compressor so I thought they shouldn't be too loud
About to drop an episode from Champery last weekend & chatted to a few people about next season. Think it goes live in about 10 mins.
This is a good example of how MTB media is too close/too friendly with the athletes to be good 'media'. Look at Supercross for example--if a website or a podcast gets a scoop on a rumor/big story they will run with it. For instance, the rumor that Chase Sexton was going to KTM was being repeated on numerous podcasts for 6+ months before it happened and long before the current season was over. They weren't calling Chase up and asking if it was OK if they shared the info. I'm not suggesting MTB media should post hearsay and totally random things as facts. But if a podcast or website has a 'rumors' section, they shouldn't have to clear it with athletes to make sure that they don't upset them.
*I understand that "Making up the Numbers" isn't a "MTB media organization". But the point stands about other orgs that claim to be more 'news' but share the same behavior. This is also noted in the Redbull and Warner Brothers broadcasts. The commentators basically never say anything negative or truly critical of the athletes like they would in Supercross or moreso in NBA/NFL, etc. Watch an NBA game or the post-game analysis, the talking heads will say honest things like, "________ had a terrible night. It was like he forgot how to shoot. It was clear that he needs to be in the gym practicing free-throws Monday morning" In MTB media you get "________ he won't be happy with that run".
Agreed, huge miss. They have always included team rumors in the podcast and that's been part of the allure for listeners. Should have just edited that...
Agreed, huge miss. They have always included team rumors in the podcast and that's been part of the allure for listeners. Should have just edited that part out completely.
I wonder if they recorded it and then had second thoughts at the last minute after the podcast editor had all put together and was too...
I wonder if they recorded it and then had second thoughts at the last minute after the podcast editor had all put together and was too booked to make a revision...so they just bleeped it and uploaded it rather than trying to cut around it and find a way to still make it feel like a natural conversation.
Either way, I don't really care. I'm not a person who experiences anxiety or any sort of fomo around not knowing stuff like team news though I'm always curious (hence me being in this thread).
Hey guys,Sorry, only just discovered this thread! We decided not to broadcast the team rumours as we thought it was too soon. The last thing we...
Hey guys,
Sorry, only just discovered this thread! We decided not to broadcast the team rumours as we thought it was too soon. The last thing we want is to damage a rider's current season or a future opportunity. Before we broke the Minnaar to Norco story last year I spoke with Greg to check that if we published it wasn't going to **** it up for him. I think once the season's finished it should be cool. Apologies for the volume of the beeps, everything goes through a compressor so I thought they shouldn't be too loud
About to drop an episode from Champery last weekend & chatted to a few people about next season. Think it goes live in about 10 mins.
George, must be torture knowing who has signed a 2025 contract in July 2024 & just sitting on it for the next 6 months.
Unless you're like me and just love knowing and take pleasure in not saying. I've known things at times and people rip me for even mentioning I have facts but won't say. They get....big mad
George, must be torture knowing who has signed a 2025 contract in July 2024 & just sitting on it for the next 6 months. Unless you're like...
George, must be torture knowing who has signed a 2025 contract in July 2024 & just sitting on it for the next 6 months.
Unless you're like me and just love knowing and take pleasure in not saying. I've known things at times and people rip me for even mentioning I have facts but won't say. They get....big mad
People get annoyed because you literally say "I know but I won't tell" like a little school girl.
Nobody would care if you knew something and just kept quiet, even if they know for sure that you have the answer. In that case they would respect that you were keeping a secret out of respect to the athletes. But that's not how you choose to live your online life, and I think you know what you're doing, so don't act all surprised when people get mad about your stupid little game.
Points taken. Maybe we should’ve dropped that section but I thought it was quite funny that Jack said we should bleep it (none of it was planned) so that’s what I decided to do.
Interested in the mx podcast comment as I don’t follow it. Do the same podcasts that break the rumours then have those riders on as guests? DH is a pretty small world & I’m conscious that I might hope to have rider x on as a guest at some stage down the track.
Points taken. Maybe we should’ve dropped that section but I thought it was quite funny that Jack said we should bleep it (none of it was...
Points taken. Maybe we should’ve dropped that section but I thought it was quite funny that Jack said we should bleep it (none of it was planned) so that’s what I decided to do.
Interested in the mx podcast comment as I don’t follow it. Do the same podcasts that break the rumours then have those riders on as guests? DH is a pretty small world & I’m conscious that I might hope to have rider x on as a guest at some stage down the track.
Nah George, podcast is mint. Don’t change, 90% of the team Rumors is dropping hints and teases.
George, must be torture knowing who has signed a 2025 contract in July 2024 & just sitting on it for the next 6 months. Unless you're like...
George, must be torture knowing who has signed a 2025 contract in July 2024 & just sitting on it for the next 6 months.
Unless you're like me and just love knowing and take pleasure in not saying. I've known things at times and people rip me for even mentioning I have facts but won't say. They get....big mad
People get annoyed because you literally say "I know but I won't tell" like a little school girl. Nobody would care if you knew something and just...
People get annoyed because you literally say "I know but I won't tell" like a little school girl.
Nobody would care if you knew something and just kept quiet, even if they know for sure that you have the answer. In that case they would respect that you were keeping a secret out of respect to the athletes. But that's not how you choose to live your online life, and I think you know what you're doing, so don't act all surprised when people get mad about your stupid little game.
Points taken. Maybe we should’ve dropped that section but I thought it was quite funny that Jack said we should bleep it (none of it was...
Points taken. Maybe we should’ve dropped that section but I thought it was quite funny that Jack said we should bleep it (none of it was planned) so that’s what I decided to do.
Interested in the mx podcast comment as I don’t follow it. Do the same podcasts that break the rumours then have those riders on as guests? DH is a pretty small world & I’m conscious that I might hope to have rider x on as a guest at some stage down the track.
Yes, however news typically isn’t broken until it’s percolated the pits a little first. They are good about not revealing sources and waiting until it’s known by enough people to not track down the leaker easily tho. Edit: PulpMX and Vital MX are a couple good examples of media that will leak, or confirm, team and tech rumors very early while maintaining their friendships in the pits and having the riders and team staff on their podcasts regularly.
I'll once again do my semi annual dad voice "this thread is for fun" posts. This isn't the 2025 team facts thread so let people have fun with it and don't be a dick. If someone wants to allude and drop bread crumbs through the season, let them and have fun with it. Pry, guess, whatever. Just don't call them out like they hurt you when they're trying to participate and haven't done anything wrong.
Greg retires from racing and Loris goes to Norco with Greg helping him develop and test.. They both live in Andora. It's Greg's team and he...
Greg retires from racing and Loris goes to Norco with Greg helping him develop and test.. They both live in Andora. It's Greg's team and he will want someone capable of winning right away.
Seems unlikely. Lots of head butting between them on Syndicate as I recall
Atherton bikes and frameworks were interesting developments to see try to establish themselves on the World Cup scene.
Warner Brothers are about to nuke the whole sport by pushing out these smaller brands. The large factory teams are probably in favour of the new format as it guarantees them exposure at all the races.
I wish riders would boycott but if they won't I hope that the elite riders salaries increase by a substantial amount because crashes and Injuries have been getting worse the last few years
Atherton bikes and frameworks were interesting developments to see try to establish themselves on the World Cup scene. Warner Brothers are about to nuke the whole sport...
Atherton bikes and frameworks were interesting developments to see try to establish themselves on the World Cup scene.
Warner Brothers are about to nuke the whole sport by pushing out these smaller brands. The large factory teams are probably in favour of the new format as it guarantees them exposure at all the races.
I wish riders would boycott but if they won't I hope that the elite riders salaries increase by a substantial amount because crashes and Injuries have been getting worse the last few years
Interesting your assumption is that Warner bros are the cause of Atherton's budget issues that have been on going for multiple seasons.
Likely that budget/sponsorship/money is far more complex than just who is or isn't running one race series. But hey.. life is easier when you see it all as black/white, left/right 👍.
On your final point. Judging by how many pads and the size of bzones and that sort of thing at world cups compared to say the recent crankworx in whistler. Your comment about safety at world cups is unfounded.
If the series was so bad surely your boycott would have happened already?
Atherton bikes and frameworks were interesting developments to see try to establish themselves on the World Cup scene. Warner Brothers are about to nuke the whole sport...
Atherton bikes and frameworks were interesting developments to see try to establish themselves on the World Cup scene.
Warner Brothers are about to nuke the whole sport by pushing out these smaller brands. The large factory teams are probably in favour of the new format as it guarantees them exposure at all the races.
I wish riders would boycott but if they won't I hope that the elite riders salaries increase by a substantial amount because crashes and Injuries have been getting worse the last few years
Interesting your assumption is that Warner bros are the cause of Atherton's budget issues that have been on going for multiple seasons.Likely that budget/sponsorship/money is far...
Interesting your assumption is that Warner bros are the cause of Atherton's budget issues that have been on going for multiple seasons.
Likely that budget/sponsorship/money is far more complex than just who is or isn't running one race series. But hey.. life is easier when you see it all as black/white, left/right 👍.
On your final point. Judging by how many pads and the size of bzones and that sort of thing at world cups compared to say the recent crankworx in whistler. Your comment about safety at world cups is unfounded.
If the series was so bad surely your boycott would have happened already?
What I meant is no other new independent brands will have the chance to establish themselves at the elite level now since the factory teams get priority
some talk from the off:kolb to yt vergier to commencalbrosnan to trekvermette to ytshaw to norcoStevens-mcnab to trekcanyon quit with fmd and pirelliatherton finished for 2025conti gt...
some talk from the off:
kolb to yt vergier to commencal brosnan to trek vermette to yt shaw to norco Stevens-mcnab to trek
canyon quit with fmd and pirelli atherton finished for 2025 conti gt history in 2025
-I would love to see Vergier to Commencal, he would be back on the top in now time but they can't afford both him and Aumery I bet.
-Kolb to YT makes sense but I bet his results go to crap after he leaves Atherton
-Brosnan to Trek seems likely, maybe he can help them develop the bike like he did with Canyon and they can bring back the session to the podium more often.
-Vermette has a long-term deal with Framworks so he will stay put I bet
-Shaw to Norco makes complete sense, I bet Luca will do well on that team coming from the canyon
-Steven's McNab to Trek factory makes the most sense, he did so well this year on the Union
some talk from the off:kolb to yt vergier to commencalbrosnan to trekvermette to ytshaw to norcoStevens-mcnab to trekcanyon quit with fmd and pirelliatherton finished for 2025conti gt...
some talk from the off:
kolb to yt vergier to commencal brosnan to trek vermette to yt shaw to norco Stevens-mcnab to trek
canyon quit with fmd and pirelli atherton finished for 2025 conti gt history in 2025
Andy signed with Atherton for 3 years. For 2025 he is under contract with Continental Atherton. I don’t see Atherton team folding in the near future. They are one of the biggest teams in the circuit. And Asa has a long deal with Frameworks.
Camille Balance said during an interview (Fast AF youtube) Commencal Dorval is going down next year and lots of changes coming for her.
Starts here (English subs): https://youtu.be/lbbAcLERne8?t=847
what does "going down" mean?
demoted to farm league. They’re gonna cherry pick the feeder series.
Or yeah probably folding is most likely
Well mr Ham n cheez…. we’ll need to start with the basics first…… are you familiar with the story about the birds and bees?
Haven't there been rumors of Dorval pulling out of their sponsorship for a while?
Dorval/Commencal done after 2024 or at minimum, huge downsize on tap. Not a secret.
Camille discusses it in the video I linked at at the top of this page 😀
there were rumors last year but they were wrong.
Rumours of this year though seem pretty good :-)
Hey guys,
Sorry, only just discovered this thread! We decided not to broadcast the team rumours as we thought it was too soon. The last thing we want is to damage a rider's current season or a future opportunity. Before we broke the Minnaar to Norco story last year I spoke with Greg to check that if we published it wasn't going to **** it up for him. I think once the season's finished it should be cool. Apologies for the volume of the beeps, everything goes through a compressor so I thought they shouldn't be too loud
About to drop an episode from Champery last weekend & chatted to a few people about next season. Think it goes live in about 10 mins.
Warning: pile of text incoming.
Ah yes! The trusty compressor!
Unfortunately compressors can only look at the amount of voltage (in the analog days and the digital equivalent of voltage in these digital days) to determine when to act and how much action to do.
That doesn't take into consideration how anything actually sounds, though. For example, a low frequency noise and a high frequency noise at the same "voltage" are perceived by a listener as wildly different volumes because humans are more sensitive to higher frequencies AND it takes more voltage to reproduce a lower frequency at the same perceived volume as a high frequency through speakers.
So, what does this mean in this case? Human ears are sensitive as hell to those "bleep" sorts of frequencies. Compressing those to be the same "voltage" as the spread of voice frequencies means those bleeps still sound loud as shit even if the compressor says they're all the same voltage. Literally turn 'em down something like an extra 6 to 9db and you should be in the ballpark.
And don't get me STARTED about how people balance audio levels between voices and music in podcasts and videos by watching and matching the meters!
...but now that I've started I'll be brief...
We don't perceive peak volumes, we perceive short term average volumes (slight oversimplification but applicable in this case). The average of a voiceover - even when compressed really hard - can be 12db (or more) quieter than the average volume of music while their peak volumes can be very similar. They'll look identical on the meters because the peaks are the same but the music will be RIPPIN' FUCKING LOUD because it's average volume is so much higher. But people are very often looking at a peak meter to help them determine average volume. That's why on 8 out of 10 podcasts and 88 out of 100 videos the music is loud and the voices will be much quieter to the point that you have to quickly adjust volumes (or just ride the hearing damage lightning) between the intro/outro music and the actual content of the podcast/video.
I love the podcast! Thanks for doing it!
I only say this audio stuff because sound is kind of a dark art and no one ever explained it to me or offers to explain it to anyone else. I just had to not have friends or sleep for 10 years of my life while working in audio/video advertising during the day and making records with bands at night to really figure it out. There's a lot to learn but just knowing a few things (like that perceived average vs peak volume thing above) can really move you forward.
Bottom line: you really do HAVE to listen to everything - just going off meters doesn't work. The hardest part is the fact that the longer you work on a specific piece of audio the more we become accustomed to and accepting of how wrong it might actually sound. Brains are dumb and our ears give us more information than our brain can consciously notice so it starts to just accept what it hears as fine when it's potentially as bad or worse than it started. So we can't even trust what we hear some of the time. If you can listen at lower volumes (to prevent ear fatigue), take a 15 minute ear break before you do a final listen and push "send" on anything, and understand the concept of peak metering having very little correlation to perceived volume you'll be SO FAR AHEAD OF THE GAME compared to 80% of the other podcasts.
Sorry for the big bunch of text. Reach out to me - anyone - if you need a bit of help with your audio (in an unhired advice sort of way or a hire me to solve your problems sort of way). I didn't waste my life learning it - I run a recording studio and get to make cool music with cool artists every day - but learning to do it all took SO MUCH TIME that it doesn't need to take and I think people just accept less-than-ideal (or worse) audio rather than spending the time getting over the knowledge mountain that needs to be scaled to make decent audio.
This is a good example of how MTB media is too close/too friendly with the athletes to be good 'media'. Look at Supercross for example--if a website or a podcast gets a scoop on a rumor/big story they will run with it. For instance, the rumor that Chase Sexton was going to KTM was being repeated on numerous podcasts for 6+ months before it happened and long before the current season was over. They weren't calling Chase up and asking if it was OK if they shared the info. I'm not suggesting MTB media should post hearsay and totally random things as facts. But if a podcast or website has a 'rumors' section, they shouldn't have to clear it with athletes to make sure that they don't upset them.
*I understand that "Making up the Numbers" isn't a "MTB media organization". But the point stands about other orgs that claim to be more 'news' but share the same behavior. This is also noted in the Redbull and Warner Brothers broadcasts. The commentators basically never say anything negative or truly critical of the athletes like they would in Supercross or moreso in NBA/NFL, etc. Watch an NBA game or the post-game analysis, the talking heads will say honest things like, "________ had a terrible night. It was like he forgot how to shoot. It was clear that he needs to be in the gym practicing free-throws Monday morning" In MTB media you get "________ he won't be happy with that run".
George, must be torture knowing who has signed a 2025 contract in July 2024 & just sitting on it for the next 6 months.
Unless you're like me and just love knowing and take pleasure in not saying. I've known things at times and people rip me for even mentioning I have facts but won't say. They get....big mad
People get annoyed because you literally say "I know but I won't tell" like a little school girl.
Nobody would care if you knew something and just kept quiet, even if they know for sure that you have the answer. In that case they would respect that you were keeping a secret out of respect to the athletes. But that's not how you choose to live your online life, and I think you know what you're doing, so don't act all surprised when people get mad about your stupid little game.
Points taken. Maybe we should’ve dropped that section but I thought it was quite funny that Jack said we should bleep it (none of it was planned) so that’s what I decided to do.
Interested in the mx podcast comment as I don’t follow it. Do the same podcasts that break the rumours then have those riders on as guests? DH is a pretty small world & I’m conscious that I might hope to have rider x on as a guest at some stage down the track.
Nah George, podcast is mint. Don’t change, 90% of the team Rumors is dropping hints and teases.
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Yes, however news typically isn’t broken until it’s percolated the pits a little first. They are good about not revealing sources and waiting until it’s known by enough people to not track down the leaker easily tho.
Edit: PulpMX and Vital MX are a couple good examples of media that will leak, or confirm, team and tech rumors very early while maintaining their friendships in the pits and having the riders and team staff on their podcasts regularly.
I'll once again do my semi annual dad voice "this thread is for fun" posts. This isn't the 2025 team facts thread so let people have fun with it and don't be a dick. If someone wants to allude and drop bread crumbs through the season, let them and have fun with it. Pry, guess, whatever. Just don't call them out like they hurt you when they're trying to participate and haven't done anything wrong.
@George Thompson Hearing about your knee was a hundred times worse than the bleeps. You don’t deserve that!
Seems unlikely. Lots of head butting between them on Syndicate as I recall
some talk from the off:
kolb to yt
vergier to commencal
brosnan to trek
vermette to yt
shaw to norco
Stevens-mcnab to trek
canyon quit with fmd and pirelli
atherton finished for 2025
conti gt history in 2025
Atherton bikes and frameworks were interesting developments to see try to establish themselves on the World Cup scene.
Warner Brothers are about to nuke the whole sport by pushing out these smaller brands. The large factory teams are probably in favour of the new format as it guarantees them exposure at all the races.
I wish riders would boycott but if they won't I hope that the elite riders salaries increase by a substantial amount because crashes and Injuries have been getting worse the last few years
Interesting your assumption is that Warner bros are the cause of Atherton's budget issues that have been on going for multiple seasons.
Likely that budget/sponsorship/money is far more complex than just who is or isn't running one race series. But hey.. life is easier when you see it all as black/white, left/right 👍.
On your final point. Judging by how many pads and the size of bzones and that sort of thing at world cups compared to say the recent crankworx in whistler. Your comment about safety at world cups is unfounded.
If the series was so bad surely your boycott would have happened already?
What I meant is no other new independent brands will have the chance to establish themselves at the elite level now since the factory teams get priority
Unless they take over the sponsorship of one of the "factory" teams run by external companies. Like Pivot or Specialized.
That is Greg's competitiveness with his teamates. He'd be a great support for Loris once he's retired from racing.
-I would love to see Vergier to Commencal, he would be back on the top in now time but they can't afford both him and Aumery I bet.
-Kolb to YT makes sense but I bet his results go to crap after he leaves Atherton
-Brosnan to Trek seems likely, maybe he can help them develop the bike like he did with Canyon and they can bring back the session to the podium more often.
-Vermette has a long-term deal with Framworks so he will stay put I bet
-Shaw to Norco makes complete sense, I bet Luca will do well on that team coming from the canyon
-Steven's McNab to Trek factory makes the most sense, he did so well this year on the Union
Andy signed with Atherton for 3 years. For 2025 he is under contract with Continental Atherton. I don’t see Atherton team folding in the near future. They are one of the biggest teams in the circuit. And Asa has a long deal with Frameworks.
I could see Cami going to Pivot.
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