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11/9/2024 2:02pm
I'm guessing that the Bernard in Indonesia thing means that for some reason the Enduro points aren't counting for the team rankings? Pivot have a pretty...

I'm guessing that the Bernard in Indonesia thing means that for some reason the Enduro points aren't counting for the team rankings? Pivot have a pretty strong showing in EDR or have I missed something? Did I hear somewhere that only the world champs in Enduro give UCI points ?

Just watching BKs vlog from the event and it looks really cool and it's great for the organizer's and riders that a couple of world cup riders are there but from a world cup qualification perspective,  the idea that getting a top result there is worth more than  a 31st in the semi final at val de sol is pretty far from ideal .

dolface wrote:
I think it was on MUTN that they said only Enduro World Champs had UCI points, maybe @George Thompson can chime in? He also had a...

I think it was on MUTN that they said only Enduro World Champs had UCI points, maybe @George Thompson can chime in? He also had a list of the top teams by points...

It's the same here in the UK for DH on a national level, UCI points for the National Champs race, but nothing for the national series. Is it the same for you guys in other countries?

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11/9/2024 2:46pm Edited Date/Time 11/9/2024 3:12pm
veefour wrote:
It's the same here in the UK for DH on a national level, UCI points for the National Champs race, but nothing for the national series...

It's the same here in the UK for DH on a national level, UCI points for the National Champs race, but nothing for the national series. Is it the same for you guys in other countries?

The EDR points thing is confusing to me; why no UCI points for the series races? DHI the series races and World Champs have UCI points  afaik so why is EDR different?

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11/9/2024 4:17pm
I'm guessing that the Bernard in Indonesia thing means that for some reason the Enduro points aren't counting for the team rankings? Pivot have a pretty...

I'm guessing that the Bernard in Indonesia thing means that for some reason the Enduro points aren't counting for the team rankings? Pivot have a pretty strong showing in EDR or have I missed something? Did I hear somewhere that only the world champs in Enduro give UCI points ?

Just watching BKs vlog from the event and it looks really cool and it's great for the organizer's and riders that a couple of world cup riders are there but from a world cup qualification perspective,  the idea that getting a top result there is worth more than  a 31st in the semi final at val de sol is pretty far from ideal .

dolface wrote:
I think it was on MUTN that they said only Enduro World Champs had UCI points, maybe @George Thompson can chime in? He also had a...

I think it was on MUTN that they said only Enduro World Champs had UCI points, maybe @George Thompson can chime in? He also had a list of the top teams by points...

veefour wrote:
It's the same here in the UK for DH on a national level, UCI points for the National Champs race, but nothing for the national series...

It's the same here in the UK for DH on a national level, UCI points for the National Champs race, but nothing for the national series. Is it the same for you guys in other countries?

Canadian National series offers points on top of the National Champs.

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11/9/2024 6:28pm
I'm guessing that the Bernard in Indonesia thing means that for some reason the Enduro points aren't counting for the team rankings? Pivot have a pretty...

I'm guessing that the Bernard in Indonesia thing means that for some reason the Enduro points aren't counting for the team rankings? Pivot have a pretty strong showing in EDR or have I missed something? Did I hear somewhere that only the world champs in Enduro give UCI points ?

Just watching BKs vlog from the event and it looks really cool and it's great for the organizer's and riders that a couple of world cup riders are there but from a world cup qualification perspective,  the idea that getting a top result there is worth more than  a 31st in the semi final at val de sol is pretty far from ideal .

dolface wrote:
I think it was on MUTN that they said only Enduro World Champs had UCI points, maybe @George Thompson can chime in? He also had a...

I think it was on MUTN that they said only Enduro World Champs had UCI points, maybe @George Thompson can chime in? He also had a list of the top teams by points...

veefour wrote:
It's the same here in the UK for DH on a national level, UCI points for the National Champs race, but nothing for the national series...

It's the same here in the UK for DH on a national level, UCI points for the National Champs race, but nothing for the national series. Is it the same for you guys in other countries?

I think the old UK downhill series used to have UCI points , I seem to remember at the time there was a cost to having the event UCI sanctioned and it was hard enough to break even for the organisers without kicking up to the UCI . 

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11/10/2024 7:36am
I'm guessing that the Bernard in Indonesia thing means that for some reason the Enduro points aren't counting for the team rankings? Pivot have a pretty...

I'm guessing that the Bernard in Indonesia thing means that for some reason the Enduro points aren't counting for the team rankings? Pivot have a pretty strong showing in EDR or have I missed something? Did I hear somewhere that only the world champs in Enduro give UCI points ?

Just watching BKs vlog from the event and it looks really cool and it's great for the organizer's and riders that a couple of world cup riders are there but from a world cup qualification perspective,  the idea that getting a top result there is worth more than  a 31st in the semi final at val de sol is pretty far from ideal .

It’s odd too that if the team needs points, why not have the whole team? It was just BK and Jenna 
Side note. Whatever town/city they were in looked really nice and made me want to visit 

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11/10/2024 9:32am Edited Date/Time 11/10/2024 9:32am
I'm guessing that the Bernard in Indonesia thing means that for some reason the Enduro points aren't counting for the team rankings? Pivot have a pretty...

I'm guessing that the Bernard in Indonesia thing means that for some reason the Enduro points aren't counting for the team rankings? Pivot have a pretty strong showing in EDR or have I missed something? Did I hear somewhere that only the world champs in Enduro give UCI points ?

Just watching BKs vlog from the event and it looks really cool and it's great for the organizer's and riders that a couple of world cup riders are there but from a world cup qualification perspective,  the idea that getting a top result there is worth more than  a 31st in the semi final at val de sol is pretty far from ideal .

I agree that it’s definitely not ideal and the points structure is wack, but it might be a positive for events like this. Having top pros show up at these regional-level events could be great for them. 

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11/10/2024 12:07pm
I'm guessing that the Bernard in Indonesia thing means that for some reason the Enduro points aren't counting for the team rankings? Pivot have a pretty...

I'm guessing that the Bernard in Indonesia thing means that for some reason the Enduro points aren't counting for the team rankings? Pivot have a pretty strong showing in EDR or have I missed something? Did I hear somewhere that only the world champs in Enduro give UCI points ?

Just watching BKs vlog from the event and it looks really cool and it's great for the organizer's and riders that a couple of world cup riders are there but from a world cup qualification perspective,  the idea that getting a top result there is worth more than  a 31st in the semi final at val de sol is pretty far from ideal .

It’s odd too that if the team needs points, why not have the whole team? It was just BK and Jenna Side note. Whatever town/city they were...

It’s odd too that if the team needs points, why not have the whole team? It was just BK and Jenna 
Side note. Whatever town/city they were in looked really nice and made me want to visit 

My understanding of it is that the teams standing is made up of the points of the riders for next season . so putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5 ,  possibly the pivot team might look different next year . 

It looks to me that brands are cutting back on  B teams and probably Enduro to support the costs of a more expensive DH world cup season . It's hard to imagine that Chris Ball didn't see this as a possibility ,  which as one of the founders of world level Enduro racing seems a bit of a 2 fingers up to Enduro .

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11/10/2024 1:24pm
I'm guessing that the Bernard in Indonesia thing means that for some reason the Enduro points aren't counting for the team rankings? Pivot have a pretty...

I'm guessing that the Bernard in Indonesia thing means that for some reason the Enduro points aren't counting for the team rankings? Pivot have a pretty strong showing in EDR or have I missed something? Did I hear somewhere that only the world champs in Enduro give UCI points ?

Just watching BKs vlog from the event and it looks really cool and it's great for the organizer's and riders that a couple of world cup riders are there but from a world cup qualification perspective,  the idea that getting a top result there is worth more than  a 31st in the semi final at val de sol is pretty far from ideal .

It’s odd too that if the team needs points, why not have the whole team? It was just BK and Jenna Side note. Whatever town/city they were...

It’s odd too that if the team needs points, why not have the whole team? It was just BK and Jenna 
Side note. Whatever town/city they were in looked really nice and made me want to visit 

My understanding of it is that the teams standing is made up of the points of the riders for next season . so putting 2 and...

My understanding of it is that the teams standing is made up of the points of the riders for next season . so putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5 ,  possibly the pivot team might look different next year . 

It looks to me that brands are cutting back on  B teams and probably Enduro to support the costs of a more expensive DH world cup season . It's hard to imagine that Chris Ball didn't see this as a possibility ,  which as one of the founders of world level Enduro racing seems a bit of a 2 fingers up to Enduro .

More than a few fingers up to enduro,

Enduro is dead Wait a few more weeks for some no more team announcements ⏰ 

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earleb
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11/10/2024 2:25pm

What are the odds that BK is getting an appearance fee for this race in Indonesia? UCI points are a side benefit. 

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11/10/2024 3:09pm
It’s odd too that if the team needs points, why not have the whole team? It was just BK and Jenna Side note. Whatever town/city they were...

It’s odd too that if the team needs points, why not have the whole team? It was just BK and Jenna 
Side note. Whatever town/city they were in looked really nice and made me want to visit 

My understanding of it is that the teams standing is made up of the points of the riders for next season . so putting 2 and...

My understanding of it is that the teams standing is made up of the points of the riders for next season . so putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5 ,  possibly the pivot team might look different next year . 

It looks to me that brands are cutting back on  B teams and probably Enduro to support the costs of a more expensive DH world cup season . It's hard to imagine that Chris Ball didn't see this as a possibility ,  which as one of the founders of world level Enduro racing seems a bit of a 2 fingers up to Enduro .

More than a few fingers up to enduro,

Enduro is dead Wait a few more weeks for some no more team announcements ⏰ 

Oh it's dead again, so both EDR and E-EDR are dead now? Just making sure we all are on the same page here.

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11/10/2024 3:16pm
earleb wrote:

What are the odds that BK is getting an appearance fee for this race in Indonesia? UCI points are a side benefit. 

This seems to be very likely. 

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luisgutrod
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11/10/2024 11:30pm Edited Date/Time 11/10/2024 11:40pm
earleb wrote:

What are the odds that BK is getting an appearance fee for this race in Indonesia? UCI points are a side benefit. 

This seems to be very likely. 

I would have said that was not the case, however we may easily downplay the size of that market (people and money).. I still dont think so but this race had a livestream, with good coverage you could mute it and think it was a world cup of the past season.. so there is power to get some appearance fees in front of people..-> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blJoiGxQvcs&pp=ygUcaW5kb25lYXNpYW4gZG9u…

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11/11/2024 1:24am
I'm guessing that the Bernard in Indonesia thing means that for some reason the Enduro points aren't counting for the team rankings? Pivot have a pretty...

I'm guessing that the Bernard in Indonesia thing means that for some reason the Enduro points aren't counting for the team rankings? Pivot have a pretty strong showing in EDR or have I missed something? Did I hear somewhere that only the world champs in Enduro give UCI points ?

Just watching BKs vlog from the event and it looks really cool and it's great for the organizer's and riders that a couple of world cup riders are there but from a world cup qualification perspective,  the idea that getting a top result there is worth more than  a 31st in the semi final at val de sol is pretty far from ideal .

dolface wrote:
I think it was on MUTN that they said only Enduro World Champs had UCI points, maybe @George Thompson can chime in? He also had a...

I think it was on MUTN that they said only Enduro World Champs had UCI points, maybe @George Thompson can chime in? He also had a list of the top teams by points...

Sure. As far as I'm aware, no one knows if enduro counts for anything at the moment. I have been living under a rock for last week or so though a decision might've been made in that time.

 

UCI MTB Team Standings 2024 - Top 20

 

Commencal Muc Off

Specialized Gravity

Canyon

Mondraker

YT Mob

Dorval

Continental Atherton

Trek

Giant

Pivot

Scott

FMD

Santa Cruz Syndicate

Frameworks

Madison Saracen

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AJW1
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11/11/2024 1:56am
earleb wrote:

What are the odds that BK is getting an appearance fee for this race in Indonesia? UCI points are a side benefit. 

Could also be attempting to the YouTube algorithim, got to keep dropping regular content. He had the Red Bull urban race a few weeks ago, which didn't seem to be his thing but he was a welcome addition.

As his USP is the insider view of the racing, he's going to have to go racing year round.

Presumably he's doing Hardline-down-under, plus the early Crankworx. And Jenna might want to go home at some point (it must be so hard for the Southern hemisphere riders in a Euro/NA dominiated sport).

Doubt we'll see them in UK/Europe until spring.

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11/11/2024 6:30am

Danny Hart has sorted his sister out with a new Mondraker......could he be returning?

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mtbAndy
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11/11/2024 7:10am

I noticed on Neko Mulally's Instagram he mentions having the bike riding like butter for the boys. Cami Balanche commented something about "and the girl too". An exchange of winky emoji's followed. Could that be a hint at Cami's future or just some friendly banter to fuel rumors?

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11/11/2024 8:01am
IanP161 wrote:

Danny Hart has sorted his sister out with a new Mondraker......could he be returning?

Could be, but also could just be that his friend owns the local bike shop and sells Mondraker; they would have done him a sweet deal. 

 

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11/11/2024 8:03am
mtbAndy wrote:
I noticed on Neko Mulally's Instagram he mentions having the bike riding like butter for the boys. Cami Balanche commented something about "and the girl too"...

I noticed on Neko Mulally's Instagram he mentions having the bike riding like butter for the boys. Cami Balanche commented something about "and the girl too". An exchange of winky emoji's followed. Could that be a hint at Cami's future or just some friendly banter to fuel rumors?

The rumor is Anna Newkirk to Frameworks, not Camille.

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11/11/2024 9:10am

Sam scoping out a new build on Coronet Peak, guessing it’s a loaner bike but weird seeing him on Fox, and a Specialized ebike


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11/11/2024 9:19am

Danny Hart - Giant 

BC- Scott 

Reece, Heather- Gamux 

EH- Syndicate 

Marine - Canyon

Fmd- Orbea with Maes

Anna - Frameworks 

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brash
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11/11/2024 12:16pm

Sams thinking of Fergburger back in town for sure, I've never lined up so long for food but holy shit it was good.

https://fergburger.com/

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JVP
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11/11/2024 12:50pm

Listening to a few Minnaar interviews lately, strong hints that Norco is pickup up Vergier. 

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11/11/2024 2:11pm
JVP wrote:

Listening to a few Minnaar interviews lately, strong hints that Norco is pickup up Vergier. 

Or maybe Bodie Kuhn?

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11/11/2024 5:31pm Edited Date/Time 11/11/2024 5:37pm
Grofko741 wrote:

Danny Hart - Giant 

BC- Scott 

Reece, Heather- Gamux 

EH- Syndicate 

Marine - Canyon

Fmd- Orbea with Maes

Anna - Frameworks 

Eh, I poked around a bit on this. Anna to Frameworks looks solid, but Marine to Canyon is seems quite dubious from what I've heard.

Also tacking on a plug for Cash Shaleen's GoFundMe! Please go chip in something if you already haven't!

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11/11/2024 5:34pm
JVP wrote:

Listening to a few Minnaar interviews lately, strong hints that Norco is pickup up Vergier. 

Or maybe Bodie Kuhn?

Bodhi Kuhn would be a loss to trek in my humble opinion. It was his first year in seniors last year and apart from injury effected rounds he consistently qualified for finals , which these days is pretty good going . 

I hope Danny to Giant is true , he's still got the pace to be at the pointy end and deserves the support of a factory team . Although there's an old adage in football , and I assume in other sports, you should never go back .....its never as good as the first time .

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11/11/2024 6:02pm
JVP wrote:

Listening to a few Minnaar interviews lately, strong hints that Norco is pickup up Vergier. 

Yep! I posted the same thing on August 8th and got down voted too. Either people don't want Loris on Norco, or they think he'll go somewhere else. I'm doubling down. 

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Karabuka
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11/11/2024 11:24pm
Bodhi Kuhn would be a loss to trek in my humble opinion. It was his first year in seniors last year and apart from injury effected...

Bodhi Kuhn would be a loss to trek in my humble opinion. It was his first year in seniors last year and apart from injury effected rounds he consistently qualified for finals , which these days is pretty good going . 

I hope Danny to Giant is true , he's still got the pace to be at the pointy end and deserves the support of a factory team . Although there's an old adage in football , and I assume in other sports, you should never go back .....its never as good as the first time .

Danny on Giant and worlds in Champery, stuff the legends are made of Wink

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11/12/2024 12:54am
Karabuka wrote:

Danny on Giant and worlds in Champery, stuff the legends are made of Wink

Imagine how good that would be ....warner on commentary too 🤩

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Mr.Nally
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11/12/2024 12:46pm
Karabuka wrote:

Danny on Giant and worlds in Champery, stuff the legends are made of Wink

Sadly the track ain't what it once was. But seeing Danny back on Giant will be awesome 

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11/12/2024 12:49pm
JVP wrote:

Listening to a few Minnaar interviews lately, strong hints that Norco is pickup up Vergier. 

I think it was discussed quite a lot on previous pages in this thread that Loris had signed for Commençal Muc-Off. 

Although I have heard that he was really happy to go back to fox suspension. But irony is rumor out there now is that Muc-Off are on the full SRAM/RS set up next year. 

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