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6/1/2019 5:07pm
6/1/2019 5:07pm
DON'T FREAK OUT AND THINK RED BULL IS TRYING TO CHARGE FOR WORLD CUP...this is all hypothetical...
Brines started this whole thing by asking "Would anyone here pay for a "season pass" (like motocross) to be able to watch a live feed of qualifying? I would. I'd pay $50 or something to watch it through the year."
It was in the race talk thread but it needed to be moved into its own thread and have a poll to see if there's any real interest. Maybe this has been discussed somewhere else or in the energy drink laboratory.
I responded that I'd definitely pay $50 for quali and why not just make it $99 for the year and have extended race day coverage (not just top 20 or whatever). I would not expect qualifying or the extended race day to have commentary. Just give me the footage to keep it easy on Warner and Claudio : ). I'd pay that all day. Would you? let's find out.
One commenter mentioned caution because Red Bull may try to clamp down on other editorial from qualifying. No one can film qualifying anyway, just practice session, so I don't see a lot happening there.
i can't edit the poll now, but i should have added a "no, keep it as is, free top 20 men and women's coverage" option to the poll. (but the poll is about paying for MORE coverage)
Brines started this whole thing by asking "Would anyone here pay for a "season pass" (like motocross) to be able to watch a live feed of qualifying? I would. I'd pay $50 or something to watch it through the year."
It was in the race talk thread but it needed to be moved into its own thread and have a poll to see if there's any real interest. Maybe this has been discussed somewhere else or in the energy drink laboratory.
I responded that I'd definitely pay $50 for quali and why not just make it $99 for the year and have extended race day coverage (not just top 20 or whatever). I would not expect qualifying or the extended race day to have commentary. Just give me the footage to keep it easy on Warner and Claudio : ). I'd pay that all day. Would you? let's find out.
One commenter mentioned caution because Red Bull may try to clamp down on other editorial from qualifying. No one can film qualifying anyway, just practice session, so I don't see a lot happening there.
i can't edit the poll now, but i should have added a "no, keep it as is, free top 20 men and women's coverage" option to the poll. (but the poll is about paying for MORE coverage)
Poll
I'd pay jeff brines to type less on the internet.
Watching the live race feed can become somewhat repetitive. I couldn’t do it 2 days in a row.
I’m not sure about the qualifying feature they put together for Fort William either. Some vagrant interviewing riders as after they crossed the finish line got boring pretty quickly.
Vital Raw footage...amazing.
Vital slideshows...amazing.
Dumbed down commercial content..nah.
not ever, I all ready pay £40 a month for internet service! With that, ALL content should be free. Let the fat fucks that drink redbull pay for our free coverage
It's so mediocre that "amateurs" like Ben Cathro virtually on a no-budget with heavy restrictions provides better coverage and insights than "professionals".
I much welcome the Gee track previous, which are a real improvement over constant fake screaming that we used to get beforehand...
Way prefer raw and vital slideshows (I don't really bother with the other website's slideshows, I need that sweet audio overlay)
I think Red Bull do a really good job now, especially as it is free! I don't understand people that slag it off. I come from an era of no coverage for anything I liked. Sign of times?
Increased prize money as a primary objective, coupled with increased venues, better coverage etc? There has to be a better value option on the table to the viewers than simply paying for the current state of affairs.
How about a system where the riders vote on the top 3 or 4 tracks based on race atmosphere and the track itself, a blind poll of all racers who qualify for any UCI DH final that year. Then we go back to those top 3 secure in the knowledge that even if we see the same stuff year after year after year, at least those tracks were the favorites of the riders themselves. Then we get to see a bunch of new and different tracks each year, expanding the scope of the sport and making the overall series more open. Knowing that 6/7 of the venues have to be different, the UCI could prepare the deals with those venues far in advance.
Losinj was so fun last year! I was so excited for Maribor this year because it was familiar but new to many of the riders and it was a great track! Fort William is a beast and I'm sure we would continue to be there because of the number of british riders who qualify for WC finals and how many seem to enjoy/respect it. But you know what im not that excited about? Leogang. Really i just want to go back to schladming. Ive never gotten over it.
(Yes i know its all about money and that putting on a WC isnt necessarily lucrative for the venue which makes new venues even harder to set up but still - i want some change. I'm so bored with the same camera angles of the same corners. Shoutout to the new muddy woods section at ft william and red bull for at least having a camera on a new track section.)
2. I surely watch the whole free webcast, but anybody knows that all the action comes down to the last 10 riders or so..(most of the times).
3. The only benefit i would see in extending the coverage, would be for younger riders to get a chance to get in the final show, but after all, its a tough sport and those who put down consistent work will rise at some point.
4. No one would sit on a couch/computer/whatever and watch a 3-4 hour show.
5. Most of the times, top qualifying runs are shown on finals day on RedBull TV. Why would you wanna see more than the top qualifying runs?
6. Vital RAW and other RAW videos out there are perfectly showcasing the parts of the track that you might never see on tv.
7. RedBull, please put a few more cameras on track, and show to the rest of the world the real, gnarly, downhill sections that might actually increase your audience, and showcase the true talent, skills and hard work that downhill athletes put down to test!
I would rather finance my local federation IF they would do a good job of promoting athletes and the sport.
I think the UCI should produce (at least finance) the show and they should get money from whatever channel willing to broadcast this amazing content,,,
But at the same time, I do hope it stays free, because that company is really making money out of water and they already have a system that works like this, so I assume it shouldn't be a problem. But, like someone said before, the grip that company has upon our sport is starting to become worrying.
As for local federations...Come on, man, in these federations road cycling is and will be king and they don't give a rat's ass about gravity riding, as we have seen oh-so-many-times!
Mx
I don't understand why Red Bull doesn't have real Ads. I get promoting other videos or shows on your own network but with everyone talking about how viewership is up how does the stream not have an add from Adidas, ATT, etc. A season ad deal there would pay for an extra camera or two. You could have the Adidas cable cam or something.
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