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6/7/2019 11:16 AM

Take a ride down the updated Leogang course with Gee - looks awkward and might provide some extra drama if the race is wet:

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6/7/2019 2:06 PM

lastest outspoken with loic. he interviews finn. freaking gold. sneak preview for forum viewers.

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6/7/2019 10:06 PM

Have Finn and Rachel Atherton interview each other and keep a 'like' counter going in the bottom corner

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6/7/2019 11:55 PM

Who is on the giant reign at leogang? I saw it in one of the YouTube vids from practice day. Couldn’t get the number plate.

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6/8/2019 10:04 PM

yournamehere wrote:

Who is on the giant reign at leogang? I saw it in one of the YouTube vids from practice day. Couldn’t get the number plate.

Marcelo Gutierrez Villegas

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6/9/2019 12:29 AM

iceman2058 wrote:

Take a ride down the updated Leogang course with Gee - looks awkward and might provide some extra drama if the race is wet:

Looks like Gee is rolling on a Bontrager tire for leogang (and Ft. Will from prior photos), could it be a sharpie job on a G5 or possibly some proto in the works from Conti!

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6/9/2019 1:46 AM

yournamehere wrote:

Who is on the giant reign at leogang? I saw it in one of the YouTube vids from practice day. Couldn’t get the number plate.

brash wrote:

Marcelo Gutierrez Villegas

Def not Pablo he was riding the glory. I reckon it’s a privateer

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6/9/2019 2:14 AM

Sorry I get reign and glory mixed up there. The dude on the enduro bike is Pierre Lunel I think. Dude rips!

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6/9/2019 3:11 AM

iceman2058 wrote:

Take a ride down the updated Leogang course with Gee - looks awkward and might provide some extra drama if the race is wet:

Shawn_Trudell wrote:

Looks like Gee is rolling on a Bontrager tire for leogang (and Ft. Will from prior photos), could it be a sharpie job on a G5 or possibly some proto in the works from Conti!

Conti Kaiser

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6/9/2019 12:18 PM

iceman2058 wrote:

Take a ride down the updated Leogang course with Gee - looks awkward and might provide some extra drama if the race is wet:

Shawn_Trudell wrote:

Looks like Gee is rolling on a Bontrager tire for leogang (and Ft. Will from prior photos), could it be a sharpie job on a G5 or possibly some proto in the works from Conti!

bulletbass man wrote:

Conti Kaiser

Definitely not a Conti Kaiser. The Kaiser and the Der Kaiser both have uniform shaped cornering lugs, they’re identical and evenly spaced across the tire. This has variable shaped and siped cornering lugs and they have the little braking nubs a-la DHF/G5/Butcher. Also the kaiser hasn’t been made for years so I doubt they would have a 29er version of it available. Unless, that is, that these are Protos of a new Kaiser.

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6/11/2019 10:25 AM
Edited Date/Time: 6/11/2019 10:27 AM

So Vital - have you guys considered doing a piece on the fact that 2 or 3 out of 5 (several anyway) on the woman elite podium of a world cup are all privateers? I dunno - a number 3 junior male placement on the podiium was seemingly a big deal, so perhaps it could be an intersting angle?

It would also be interesting to see a video of somebody walk around the pits and ask all the major teams what they thought about both the level of support and the development in both junior (male and female) and female elite ranks as well. If nothing else, hopefully it could yield some logistical support and tutoring for female elite riders (and hopefully male and female juniors as well) if nothing else.

Perhaps it should not be made a requirement, but it would be good to see some regulation stipulating support of both a female elite rider, and male and female juniors for all of the major teams. Again, not a requirement to provide a hefty pay check, but to facilitate logistical support, know how and support during race weekends and perhaps also to provide equipment. Aka - to help bridge the gap.

That being said - it could be that that kind of support is already in place unofficially on the circuit. If so - good. If not, one would think that it would be an easy win that could help lift the support to new heights.

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6/11/2019 10:50 AM

UR team video from Leogang - goals vs reality:

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6/11/2019 11:07 AM

WynTV prowls the pits for the lowdown after the showdown:

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6/30/2019 9:40 AM

Martin basically announced that he's gunning for the World Championship in MSA. I wonder if he'll race a World Cup before that.

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6/30/2019 11:13 AM

Verbl Kint wrote:

Martin basically announced that he's gunning for the World Championship in MSA. I wonder if he'll race a World Cup before that.

Surely he is banned from World Cups too no? He can't race EWS Whistler and there isn't one between that and MSA so i doubt it.

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6/30/2019 8:37 PM

Verbl Kint wrote:

Martin basically announced that he's gunning for the World Championship in MSA. I wonder if he'll race a World Cup before that.

andrew.macnaughton wrote:

Surely he is banned from World Cups too no? He can't race EWS Whistler and there isn't one between that and MSA so i doubt it.

I did a bit of checking and you are right.

Martin was meted out a 90-day suspension and the sanction took effect May 13 (day after EWS Madeira). This lapses on Sunday, August 11th, which is the same weekend as Lenzerheide and Whistler.


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7/2/2019 1:23 PM
Edited Date/Time: 7/2/2019 1:24 PM

POV of the new US world cup DH track at snowshoe, west virginia coming later tonight! neko and dak crush it. bring tire inserts and learn to jump.


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7/5/2019 9:34 AM

Klink du Kul wrote:

So Vital - have you guys considered doing a piece on the fact that 2 or 3 out of 5 (several anyway) on the woman elite podium of a world cup are all privateers? I dunno - a number 3 junior male placement on the podiium was seemingly a big deal, so perhaps it could be an intersting angle?

It would also be interesting to see a video of somebody walk around the pits and ask all the major teams what they thought about both the level of support and the development in both junior (male and female) and female elite ranks as well. If nothing else, hopefully it could yield some logistical support and tutoring for female elite riders (and hopefully male and female juniors as well) if nothing else.

Perhaps it should not be made a requirement, but it would be good to see some regulation stipulating support of both a female elite rider, and male and female juniors for all of the major teams. Again, not a requirement to provide a hefty pay check, but to facilitate logistical support, know how and support during race weekends and perhaps also to provide equipment. Aka - to help bridge the gap.

That being said - it could be that that kind of support is already in place unofficially on the circuit. If so - good. If not, one would think that it would be an easy win that could help lift the support to new heights.

I like this angle, but also taking the time to mention our race program, SRAM TLD RACING, has been full support of developing the 'next gen' from when we started the program in 2014, with Luca and Walker, and to present day with Vali Holl and Lucas Cruz. Yeah, small program, but, 2 industry brands doing it's part in modeling a jr development program to build the future. Not the 'only' program, but pretty proud of what we are doing. It is a part time project for everyone involved as we all have our 'normal' jobs, but we all LOVE being involved with the program and being part of the future's journey.

Wyn's privateer fund is a fun little thing brewing too-maybe some larger crowd sourced funds for Jr's and Women-as they get the least support, would be cool. Just needs someone to start it, and manage the allocation of funds. Hell, id even be down for a pay to watch redbull TV platform, the funds are public viewing, and those funds generated from viewing access go into this pool - weird, but, there is interest in the sport of DH, its the king shit of MTB racing, and it's starting to brew a new resurgence.

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7/8/2019 8:13 AM

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7/8/2019 8:50 AM

I see all these posts saying that "Gwin is finsihed" and that he and the old guard can't keep up with the young guns. We forget that he won Maribor just last year, then was on a winning pace until he wrecked at Ft Bill, and took 2nd at Leogang with a broken thumb. This year he has one 6th place before his string of injuries and I guess you aren't allowed a single bad race anymore. He wasn't over-cooking it to "try and keep up"; I won't fault anyone for crashing in Andorra this year with those conditions.

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7/8/2019 9:25 AM

hamncheez2003 wrote:

I see all these posts saying that "Gwin is finsihed" and that he and the old guard can't keep up with the young guns. We forget that he won Maribor just last year, then was on a winning pace until he wrecked at Ft Bill, and took 2nd at Leogang with a broken thumb. This year he has one 6th place before his string of injuries and I guess you aren't allowed a single bad race anymore. He wasn't over-cooking it to "try and keep up"; I won't fault anyone for crashing in Andorra this year with those conditions.

Maribor last year?! There was no worldcup

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7/8/2019 9:40 AM

*Losinje Croatia maybe?

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7/8/2019 10:31 AM
Edited Date/Time: 7/8/2019 10:34 AM

The mob is cruel! Poor Gwin. He'll be back. His lifestyle is clean, work ethic strong and competitive spirit too great. Only reason you won't see him on the top step is if any of these injuries make him throw in the towel. Otherwise, the dude is one of the best of all time. He'll get it figured out. This is just like when he switched to the big S a number of years ago. I think if you read between the lines he hasn't absolutely loved the Intense, despite all his ranting and raving about it. My rational there is he couldn't decide on a size coming into the first race. That tells me he isn't totally gelling with it, as do his results.

No doubt however competition in WC downhill and EWS is on a different level. What it used to take to win now won't even put you in the top 20.

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7/8/2019 10:32 AM

grinch wrote:

*Losinje Croatia maybe?

Haha yes! Sorry I'm not the most intellectual person around here. Thats what I meant.

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7/8/2019 10:50 AM

In an interview with AG right before finals that aired on the live-feed he mentioned that the rider in front of him stopped short during his practice run which ended up causing the crash. Maybe the rider is out of the shot, but on his helmet cam it just looks like he just flat out shoulder-checks that tree. You can tell that one hurt for sure

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7/8/2019 1:28 PM

hamncheez2003 wrote:

I see all these posts saying that "Gwin is finsihed" and that he and the old guard can't keep up with the young guns. We forget that he won Maribor just last year, then was on a winning pace until he wrecked at Ft Bill, and took 2nd at Leogang with a broken thumb. This year he has one 6th place before his string of injuries and I guess you aren't allowed a single bad race anymore. He wasn't over-cooking it to "try and keep up"; I won't fault anyone for crashing in Andorra this year with those conditions.

Not saying he is or isn’t out. But, to say he was on a “winning pace” is a bit gratuitous...I mean, yeah he managed to ride really well for that first 10-15 seconds of a 4:40 minute race.

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7/8/2019 1:37 PM

sundaydoug wrote:

In an interview with AG right before finals that aired on the live-feed he mentioned that the rider in front of him stopped short during his practice run which ended up causing the crash. Maybe the rider is out of the shot, but on his helmet cam it just looks like he just flat out shoulder-checks that tree. You can tell that one hurt for sure

He mentioned the dust. I think he was referencing the rider hucking up dust after possibly going down & therefore bad visibility.
He immediately stated it was 100% his fault & didn't blame the other rider in the very next sentence. You can even see the cloud getting thicker.
Biggest thing with the dust there is that in the shadows, you can see better than when you hit the patches of sun which block visibility & double down by reflecting & refracting the light like crazy.

It's a crap situation. Did it sound more like he was implying he had to dodge the rider is where the confusion is?

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Trouble Maker. Here to spit truth in the form of sarcasm.

7/8/2019 1:46 PM

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7/8/2019 6:18 PM

AG is definitely far from finished.

I'm pretty sure him, John Hall and John Steber are going to get the M29 absolutely dialed by next season. People easily forget that Aaron had to hustle hard and hustle quickly in the off-season after YT unceremoniously ended their relationship. Time which could have been spent on bike development and getting acclimated to the linkage design and geo was instead used to make deals and build a new team.

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7/9/2019 8:16 AM

Andorra team videos coming in hot:





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