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5/5/2021 10:13 AM

Talking to a handful of riders and reading about what you've said on our site about trials and tribulations in obtaining bike parts, I started wondering if riders will start riding more cautiously so they don't smoke a wheel or wreck a tire or rip off a derailleur or bend a bolt or break a frame. Is that on your radar while you ride? The notion seems a bit far-fetched right now, but I'd like to hear what you think.

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5/5/2021 10:18 AM

It makes me slightly more concerned when I'm sitting in bed thinking about life, but on the trails I don't think i've pulled back or been more cautious. What it has done is made me hold onto parts that I would prob have otherwise tried to unload for cash.

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5/5/2021 10:48 AM

I would agree with Lucent in keeping bike parts that I intended on selling. My riding has changed but only due to the hospitals being overwhelmed here in Ontario.

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5/5/2021 10:59 AM

No I replaced all the crap parts on my bike 4 months after I no it. Now it’s pretty much bullit proof.

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5/5/2021 11:13 AM

I don’t think it will change the way I ride, but it will change the way I maintain my bike. For example, my DUB bb bearing seized yesterday and new ones are locally in short supply. I managed to service the bearing to get it spinning again and will work on sourcing a new bb. But while in the past, I would have replaced the bb at the earliest opportunity, I will likely save the new one until my current one is completely dead.

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5/5/2021 11:29 AM

Serious question - what is actually impossible to get right now (besides frames)?

I just pieced together a frankenbike with zero issues. Maybe I can't get exactly what I want, but it doesn't appear all wheels, derailleurs, suspension etc is out of stock.

What am I missing?

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5/5/2021 11:34 AM

Jeff Brines- I've never not been able to find a part that I need during Covid, but like you said I've often not been able to find a particular part I want.

I think the big difference is whether you're building/maintaining a bike because you like riding bikes or you're building/upgrading a bike because you want all matching gold AXS or top-to-bottom orange anodized Hope bits for the Instagram. I just ride my bikes, so I've been fine.

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5/5/2021 12:12 PM

jeff.brines wrote:

Serious question - what is actually impossible to get right now (besides frames)?

I just pieced together a frankenbike with ...more

have heard wheels couldn't be found from two different riders in the last two days. and frankenbiking may be an option now, but will it be in a month or two? maybe, but hence the qualifier of "The notion seems a bit far-fetched right now, but I'd like to hear what you think" in my original post.

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5/5/2021 12:46 PM

#pushupthatsteepclimb (to save the chain of course). It's on, we apply that moto daily 😂

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5/5/2021 12:57 PM

My bike is in need of so many parts already I’m not too concerned about it

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5/5/2021 1:03 PM

I'm running tire inserts on my light wheels, where I didn't before. Just in case wheels are scarce - I want to keep these ones intact!

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5/5/2021 1:28 PM

jeff.brines wrote:

Serious question - what is actually impossible to get right now (besides frames)?

I just pieced together a frankenbike with ...more

To me, chain is the one wear item that is getting scarce. Search "12spd chain" and it's slim but you are correct not impossible to find (yet).

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5/5/2021 1:56 PM

If any of my 27"wheeled bikes have catastrophic failure, I have a fleet of older(26") complete bikes that I keep for nostalgia reasons to fall back on plus drawers full of spare parts and a rack of tires and wheels for all. I'm not worried about the bikes/parts, just my old body surviving the season at Northstar. I'm prepared.

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5/5/2021 2:14 PM

I think about replacement parts, like a brake lever damaged in a crash and my OCD needs it to match. Chains are an issue, I just put a new one on so I should be good for a little while until I can get my hands on another. I have 2 bikes that use the same size wheels, so I technically have 4 wheel sets, but hope they are not needed.
Tire's I ride maxx grip and avoid any pavement and avoid locking up the brakes at all. I imagine I will run my tires down a little more than usual as well. This is where the extra wheel set will help out, save the better tires for race weekends and the worn ones for other rides.

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5/5/2021 2:44 PM

Like Lucent said above, it has changed the way I think about riding more than how I've actually ridden.

One (maybe positive?) thing is it has nudged me to experiment with parts that I've been able to more easily source. I decided to try the Tannus inserts because the shop had them in stock vs having them order me CushCore. And who knows, maybe I'll get really wild and try different tires this summer

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5/5/2021 4:14 PM

jeff.brines wrote:

Serious question - what is actually impossible to get right now (besides frames)?

I just pieced together a frankenbike with ...more

Shocks - majority of sizes and models not available (US)
Forks - some not available
Chains - good luck with that one especially if you are on 12s sram
Tyres - some not available
Specific brakes- such as Saint

Having friends with a bikeshop in Europe and its a disaster. Talked to shops in Bay Area and they are running out of usual stuff such as chains. It will be worst as the current production will go mostly on builds.


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5/5/2021 6:46 PM

I screwed myself last year figuring I'd wait until this winter to replace my cassette and get my fork and shock rebuilt. The cassette is almost 50% more expensive and no one has them and the lead times for suspension work were at 20 days last I checked. The bike rides ok but...I can tell ya know?! 😁

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5/5/2021 8:54 PM

Lbs is a good friend. Also good time to do your own maintenance. I think I could source a bike if I needed to whether it was new or used.

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5/5/2021 10:11 PM

My bikes builded to last, i more worried about service lines to ger fork/shock service or lack of brake pads - those are kinda essential

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FUN

5/5/2021 10:14 PM

jeff.brines wrote:

Serious question - what is actually impossible to get right now (besides frames)?

I just pieced together a frankenbike with ...more

Brake pads, easier to buy new brake rather brake pads ( formula brakes in US) so it is not common product anyway

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FUN

5/5/2021 11:30 PM

Changed suspension over this winter to something i can service myself. Have been trying for a while to get as self sufficent as possible. THis is not really Covid related in the sense that the supply chain is in some turmoil.

I live in between deep fjords of norway and far away from any LBS, so i have to be my own LBS. haha.

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5/5/2021 11:52 PM

jeff.brines wrote:

Serious question - what is actually impossible to get right now (besides frames)?

I just pieced together a frankenbike with ...more

Kusa wrote:

Shocks - majority of sizes and models not available (US)
Forks - some not available
Chains - good luck with that one ...more

shops here have plenty of eagle stuff. many bay area shops have tons of eagle chains. Shimano is the one with terrible inventory, no shipments coming in whatsoever.

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5/6/2021 1:34 PM

I don't give it a 2nd thought. Not because I think your point is invalid, but rather because I tend to focus on the task at hand while riding and care about the maintenance while I'm in the garage. Plus, I've been historically easy on parts during my lifetime. Most or all my parts failures have been from years of use, rather than sudden breakage.

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5/6/2021 2:08 PM

jeff.brines wrote:

Serious question - what is actually impossible to get right now (besides frames)?

I just pieced together a frankenbike with ...more

Kusa wrote:

Shocks - majority of sizes and models not available (US)
Forks - some not available
Chains - good luck with that one ...more

Sean_Hornchek wrote:

shops here have plenty of eagle stuff. many bay area shops have tons of eagle chains. Shimano is the one with terrible ...more

I talked to couple of bay area shops and they said sorry but we cant sell you chain now. When i searched online, there was nothing. I found only one online us shop where they had just two last eagle gx chains. Saw similar experience in FB groups im. So which are the ones with tons of eagle chains?

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5/6/2021 3:20 PM

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5/6/2021 11:52 PM

Must admit I'm not finding it hard to find parts but getting them in specific size and or speeds can be a fkng mission!
and I'm wondering.... any body else think that the constantly increasing amount of "standards", which has been an issue for some for a while now. Is the bigger problem that has been majorly high lighted by the current shortage situation?

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Callous Hands an Bloody Shins since 1979

5/7/2021 1:23 AM
Edited Date/Time: 5/7/2021 4:53 AM

Jonzilla wrote:

Must admit I'm not finding it hard to find parts but getting them in specific size and or speeds can be a fkng mission!
and ...more

Quite the opposite, I recently bought a lighter than expected wheel which I expect to trash... But am assuming DT rims will be ok to find at any point.

I recently bought a DT swiss m1700 rear wheel, I wanted an e1700 but it needed to be:
rear
27.5
boost
XD driver
30mm
6 bolt (it wasn't, but CL converters are cool)
ratchet based hub

So once I had figured out whether I wanted an M, E, H (add various X's or R's depending on the year) and understanding the tradeoffs of the 1700 vs 1900 series (which are minor or considerable depending on the year due to recent hub changes), it came down to price and availability: the m1700 was available and cheaper, hope it survives a couple of seasons!

It definitely seems like things are getting crazy again with standards.

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5/7/2021 4:24 AM

jeff.brines wrote:

Serious question - what is actually impossible to get right now (besides frames)?

I just pieced together a frankenbike with ...more

nick.malyshenko wrote:

Brake pads, easier to buy new brake rather brake pads ( formula brakes in US) so it is not common product anyway

I found Formula pads on eBay.

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5/7/2021 5:08 AM

jeff.brines wrote:

Serious question - what is actually impossible to get right now (besides frames)?

I just pieced together a frankenbike with ...more

Kusa wrote:

Shocks - majority of sizes and models not available (US)
Forks - some not available
Chains - good luck with that one ...more

Two things...

1) Fox just reported earnings last night - unsurprisingly was a blow out quarter. If someone has time listen to the conference call (its recorded). Guessing they dive into supply chain issues as it was mentioned in the PR.

2) What you listed may be true on the wholesale/supply end, but a quick google search and I could find everything you listed without digging around. Not sure what tires you can't find, but all the usual suspects were readily available. I'm not trying to say there isn't a problem, but as it stands now, if I were to break any part on my bike I could easily find a replacement.

Robot nailed it. I'm not that picky. While I am a total gear nerd, one huge takeaway over the last few years is the variance in "bottom end" to "top end" is tighter than it ever has been. Plus, unlike other sports, there is so much cross compatibility and overall options, its crazy. The only parts that would really have you hanging it up right now is a broken frame from a manufacturer who is flat out of everything.



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5/7/2021 7:11 AM

jeff.brines wrote:

Serious question - what is actually impossible to get right now (besides frames)?

I just pieced together a frankenbike with ...more

Kusa wrote:

Shocks - majority of sizes and models not available (US)
Forks - some not available
Chains - good luck with that one ...more

jeff.brines wrote:

Two things...

1) Fox just reported earnings last night - unsurprisingly was a blow out quarter. If someone has time listen to ...more

it's not just fox. look at the earnings/reports section of BRAIN. literally every single one is growth.

https://www.bicycleretailer.com/earnings-financial-reports

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