How many riders in the 2017 Lourdes World Cup DH Top 10 will be on 29ers?

Edited Date/Time 4/27/2017 9:19am
Bonus if you list the rider names.

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So, let's hear it - Do you think this will be the year we start to see wagon-wheels in WC DH?


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4/11/2017 7:47pm Edited Date/Time 4/11/2017 7:48pm
I think yes. We've heard enough rumors and hints and it's time. I call Minar. Plus others. Commencial, KHS, Intense, Nicholai, Trek, YT?
4/11/2017 8:35pm
Big Bird wrote:
I think yes. We've heard enough rumors and hints and it's time. I call Minar. Plus others. Commencial, KHS, Intense, Nicholai, Trek, YT?
I'm with you on Minnaar, he always seems to want a bigger bike and he's one of the taller guys on the circuit.
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4/11/2017 9:07pm
2. Provided they have good races, Remi Thiron and Greg Minnaar.

3 if Gee has a good start to the season as well.

4/12/2017 1:34am Edited Date/Time 4/12/2017 1:35am
Wasn't Gee spotted riding a 29er last year? I'm pretty sure it was mentioned/hinted on GMBN
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Someone go find Alex Morgan and tell him it's time to unleash all the glory that was BCD in the mid-2000s with garage-built 29er DH bikes. Auto-entry to UCI events for the test pilots of said revamped carbon sleds. Let's mix it up a bit!
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sideshow wrote:
Someone go find Alex Morgan and tell him it's time to unleash all the glory that was BCD in the mid-2000s with garage-built 29er DH bikes...
Someone go find Alex Morgan and tell him it's time to unleash all the glory that was BCD in the mid-2000s with garage-built 29er DH bikes. Auto-entry to UCI events for the test pilots of said revamped carbon sleds. Let's mix it up a bit!
As a guy who rode one of his bikes I can tell you, that man was not appreciated in his time...
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sideshow wrote:
Someone go find Alex Morgan and tell him it's time to unleash all the glory that was BCD in the mid-2000s with garage-built 29er DH bikes...
Someone go find Alex Morgan and tell him it's time to unleash all the glory that was BCD in the mid-2000s with garage-built 29er DH bikes. Auto-entry to UCI events for the test pilots of said revamped carbon sleds. Let's mix it up a bit!
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As a guy who rode one of his bikes I can tell you, that man was not appreciated in his time...
High Single Pivot big-wheeled monster truck! Everyone who has ridden one seems to say the same as you...BCD has become The Great White Buffalo.
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sideshow wrote:
Someone go find Alex Morgan and tell him it's time to unleash all the glory that was BCD in the mid-2000s with garage-built 29er DH bikes...
Someone go find Alex Morgan and tell him it's time to unleash all the glory that was BCD in the mid-2000s with garage-built 29er DH bikes. Auto-entry to UCI events for the test pilots of said revamped carbon sleds. Let's mix it up a bit!
sspomer wrote:
haha http://www.vitalmtb.com/photos/features/BCDs-Carbon-29er-Downhill-Bike-from-2007,3771/BCDs-Carbon-29er-DH-Bike-from-2007,36005/sspomer,2 [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/users/2/photos/36005/s1200_bike.jpg?1338333107[/img]
I think of this every time I hear or see "29er DH Bike" - lasting impression!
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4/12/2017 12:49pm
sideshow wrote:
I think of this every time I hear or see "29er DH Bike" - lasting impression!
I just feel bad that he had to run Nevegals. Didn't he qualify at Bromont on that bike? I bet if he had Minions with DH casings back then it would have completely unlocked the bikes full potential.
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4/12/2017 1:02pm Edited Date/Time 4/12/2017 1:09pm
I think a mixer would be best. 29er up front and 27.5 rear. Like my trail bike! But I say 3 29ers.



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sideshow wrote:
I think of this every time I hear or see "29er DH Bike" - lasting impression!
I just feel bad that he had to run Nevegals. Didn't he qualify at Bromont on that bike? I bet if he had Minions with DH...
I just feel bad that he had to run Nevegals. Didn't he qualify at Bromont on that bike? I bet if he had Minions with DH casings back then it would have completely unlocked the bikes full potential.
He qualified for MSA in 2007 on a version of that bike, first 29er to race a WC. It definitely had Nevegals though I'm not sure they even had DH casings at the time. I believe he was running a Fox 40 with some file work done to the crown to make the tires fit. I can't remember if he had the 'gear box' version or not.

MSA was also the debut of Decline Team America (f*ck Yeah!), in it's original far-less-than-factory form, for which Alex was also the founder and chief UCI rule-skirting mastermind.
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4/12/2017 1:12pm Edited Date/Time 4/12/2017 2:15pm
LTrumpore wrote:
He qualified for MSA in 2007 on a version of that bike, first 29er to race a WC. It definitely had Nevegals though I'm not sure...
He qualified for MSA in 2007 on a version of that bike, first 29er to race a WC. It definitely had Nevegals though I'm not sure they even had DH casings at the time. I believe he was running a Fox 40 with some file work done to the crown to make the tires fit. I can't remember if he had the 'gear box' version or not.

MSA was also the debut of Decline Team America (f*ck Yeah!), in it's original far-less-than-factory form, for which Alex was also the founder and chief UCI rule-skirting mastermind.
this time is also known as "the glory days".

(edit, to me!)
4/12/2017 2:09pm
fabdemaere wrote:
Wasn't Gee spotted riding a 29er last year? I'm pretty sure it was mentioned/hinted on GMBN
I'm not certain about Jee. However, Cole Picchitino has been spotted multiple times on a Session 29r, so Trek had definitely been developing one. I guess we shall see. . .
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4/12/2017 3:13pm Edited Date/Time 4/12/2017 3:14pm
sideshow wrote:
Someone go find Alex Morgan and tell him it's time to unleash all the glory that was BCD in the mid-2000s with garage-built 29er DH bikes...
Someone go find Alex Morgan and tell him it's time to unleash all the glory that was BCD in the mid-2000s with garage-built 29er DH bikes. Auto-entry to UCI events for the test pilots of said revamped carbon sleds. Let's mix it up a bit!
sspomer wrote:
haha http://www.vitalmtb.com/photos/features/BCDs-Carbon-29er-Downhill-Bike-from-2007,3771/BCDs-Carbon-29er-DH-Bike-from-2007,36005/sspomer,2 [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/users/2/photos/36005/s1200_bike.jpg?1338333107[/img]
I saw this bike at the Mountain States Cup race at Angel Fire in 2007. I don't know the guy, but we were parked next to each other and he asked to borrow a tool and we got to talking. Naturally I had some questions about the bike, how it rode and so forth. He said it was working great before, but that he thought he had broken the shock because he could no longer get full travel out of it. Even with no air in the shock it would only compress about 2/3 of it's stroke. Turned out that the chain was too short. I think he had broken the previous chain and threw on a spare not realizing it was shorter, if I remember correctly. Something like that anyway, because clearly he understands how suspension works and didn't install a short chain on purpose. Definitely an interesting bike, and the Chris King Headset top cap pivot hardware was a nice touch too.
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Not sure why my photo didn't work in my post above, but here it is again.


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greerphoto wrote:
I think a mixer would be best. 29er up front and 27.5 rear. Like my trail bike! But I say 3 29ers. [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2017/04/12/5087/s1200_20170201_152520.jpg[/img]
I think a mixer would be best. 29er up front and 27.5 rear. Like my trail bike! But I say 3 29ers.



I think that's called a "79.5er"

29" + 26" = 69er
27.5" + 26" = 67.5er
29" + 27.5" = 79.5er
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4/12/2017 3:59pm
sideshow wrote:
Someone go find Alex Morgan and tell him it's time to unleash all the glory that was BCD in the mid-2000s with garage-built 29er DH bikes...
Someone go find Alex Morgan and tell him it's time to unleash all the glory that was BCD in the mid-2000s with garage-built 29er DH bikes. Auto-entry to UCI events for the test pilots of said revamped carbon sleds. Let's mix it up a bit!
sspomer wrote:
haha http://www.vitalmtb.com/photos/features/BCDs-Carbon-29er-Downhill-Bike-from-2007,3771/BCDs-Carbon-29er-DH-Bike-from-2007,36005/sspomer,2 [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/users/2/photos/36005/s1200_bike.jpg?1338333107[/img]
sideshow wrote:
I think of this every time I hear or see "29er DH Bike" - lasting impression!
Thanks guys. The way downhill has evolved from late 90's to now has been the magical time of the sport. I still watch and race DH at angel fire bc it's not sanctioned and still affordable.
This inedible is on its 4th remake of this same frame as a 27.5 PLUS coaster specific. 150 front hub on back and a Offset crank spline.
It is like a class of downhill that will be for line purists and dirtbags the break there crap and can't cobble there bike together for a Race run with a chain bc there to poor. This is my IG if you want to follow and see a lot of Lycra and chicken posts.

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sideshow wrote:
I think of this every time I hear or see "29er DH Bike" - lasting impression!
I just feel bad that he had to run Nevegals. Didn't he qualify at Bromont on that bike? I bet if he had Minions with DH...
I just feel bad that he had to run Nevegals. Didn't he qualify at Bromont on that bike? I bet if he had Minions with DH casings back then it would have completely unlocked the bikes full potential.
LTrumpore wrote:
He qualified for MSA in 2007 on a version of that bike, first 29er to race a WC. It definitely had Nevegals though I'm not sure...
He qualified for MSA in 2007 on a version of that bike, first 29er to race a WC. It definitely had Nevegals though I'm not sure they even had DH casings at the time. I believe he was running a Fox 40 with some file work done to the crown to make the tires fit. I can't remember if he had the 'gear box' version or not.

MSA was also the debut of Decline Team America (f*ck Yeah!), in it's original far-less-than-factory form, for which Alex was also the founder and chief UCI rule-skirting mastermind.
2.35 Kenda nevegals with a second bead and casing only in there. I didn't flat that race run but munched my sprocket coasted down 1/2 the track to 73rd. Was disappointed but seeing team decline come to full effect with the help of all the riders on the UCI team and Scott Hart made it a weekend to remember!

Sorry to derail the thread.
I think there will be 5 riders top ten on 29's. And a lot of tire skid marks on the seats of them!
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4/12/2017 4:29pm Edited Date/Time 4/12/2017 4:35pm
rallysmurf wrote:
Thanks guys. The way downhill has evolved from late 90's to now has been the magical time of the sport. I still watch and race DH...
Thanks guys. The way downhill has evolved from late 90's to now has been the magical time of the sport. I still watch and race DH at angel fire bc it's not sanctioned and still affordable.
This inedible is on its 4th remake of this same frame as a 27.5 PLUS coaster specific. 150 front hub on back and a Offset crank spline.
It is like a class of downhill that will be for line purists and dirtbags the break there crap and can't cobble there bike together for a Race run with a chain bc there to poor. This is my IG if you want to follow and see a lot of Lycra and chicken posts.

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Turn bar to #footoutflatout #HiFiCX

A post shared by Alex Morgan (@a.p.j.m) on Oct 10, 2016 at 11:02am PDT


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sorry. hijacking with pics of alex from 2003! handmade carbon DH bikes FTW

durango national


idaho national


his place in 2006 in amarillo (sorry so small)


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4/12/2017 9:19pm Edited Date/Time 4/12/2017 9:20pm
sspomer wrote:
haha http://www.vitalmtb.com/photos/features/BCDs-Carbon-29er-Downhill-Bike-from-2007,3771/BCDs-Carbon-29er-DH-Bike-from-2007,36005/sspomer,2 [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/users/2/photos/36005/s1200_bike.jpg?1338333107[/img]
sideshow wrote:
I think of this every time I hear or see "29er DH Bike" - lasting impression!
rallysmurf wrote:
Thanks guys. The way downhill has evolved from late 90's to now has been the magical time of the sport. I still watch and race DH...
Thanks guys. The way downhill has evolved from late 90's to now has been the magical time of the sport. I still watch and race DH at angel fire bc it's not sanctioned and still affordable.
This inedible is on its 4th remake of this same frame as a 27.5 PLUS coaster specific. 150 front hub on back and a Offset crank spline.
It is like a class of downhill that will be for line purists and dirtbags the break there crap and can't cobble there bike together for a Race run with a chain bc there to poor. This is my IG if you want to follow and see a lot of Lycra and chicken posts.

This thread took a splendid turn. Too good!
Additional photos of Alex racing and the CX vid are the cherry. Awesome.
4/12/2017 10:41pm
this thread just went to 11 fir sure and leafs me wondering, what wood WC riders think about changing the UCI rule to allow 27.5/29ers?
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LTrumpore wrote:
He qualified for MSA in 2007 on a version of that bike, first 29er to race a WC. It definitely had Nevegals though I'm not sure...
He qualified for MSA in 2007 on a version of that bike, first 29er to race a WC. It definitely had Nevegals though I'm not sure they even had DH casings at the time. I believe he was running a Fox 40 with some file work done to the crown to make the tires fit. I can't remember if he had the 'gear box' version or not.

MSA was also the debut of Decline Team America (f*ck Yeah!), in it's original far-less-than-factory form, for which Alex was also the founder and chief UCI rule-skirting mastermind.
this time is also known as "the glory days".

(edit, to me!)
Those were the most fun times I ever had racing bikes, esp the masters trip in 06. Alex if you still have the video that opens with Gene Hamilton talking about living in his van down by the river, I would love the file. JP
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4/13/2017 7:28am Edited Date/Time 4/13/2017 7:29am
I hope every bike in the race is a 29er.

That way we can enjoy half the field going off track in tight turns (especially the shorties), more broken wheels throughout the day than we've seen since kovarik, and brakes boiling over. Not to mention I'm sure all those tires are up to speed.

It's been far too boring the last 10 years actually watching everyone finish runs on well-developed, matured equipment. Racing should be determined by whims in marketing. Everyone from the 90s knows that.


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kidwoo wrote:
I hope every bike in the race is a 29er. That way we can enjoy half the field going off track in tight turns (especially the...
I hope every bike in the race is a 29er.

That way we can enjoy half the field going off track in tight turns (especially the shorties), more broken wheels throughout the day than we've seen since kovarik, and brakes boiling over. Not to mention I'm sure all those tires are up to speed.

It's been far too boring the last 10 years actually watching everyone finish runs on well-developed, matured equipment. Racing should be determined by whims in marketing. Everyone from the 90s knows that.


Rewind 3 years or so and the same things were being said about those awful 275 DH bikes that no one wants to ride...

I guess for anyone who stills enjoys taking the piss out of enduro racing as well as 29ers, you can thank those guys for refining the tires, wheels, and geometry the past few years so the DH guys can enjoy a couple extra inches too. I'm not sure why they'd bother though, just look at how bad shorter guys like Strobel struggle on the big wheels. It's basically hopeless.


**Full disclosure. I've swallowed all the kool-aide and have a Yeti 29er en route

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