How many riders in the 2017 Lourdes World Cup DH Top 10 will be on 29ers?

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4/11/2017 3:32 PM
Edited Date/Time: 4/11/2017 6:39 PM

Bonus if you list the rider names.

How many riders in the 2017 Lourdes World Cup DH Top 10 will be on 29ers?



So, let's hear it - Do you think this will be the year we start to see wagon-wheels in WC DH?


I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

4/11/2017 6:12 PM

Do you?

4/11/2017 7:47 PM
Edited Date/Time: 4/11/2017 7:48 PM

I think yes. We've heard enough rumors and hints and it's time. I call Minar. Plus others. Commencial, KHS, Intense, Nicholai, Trek, YT?

4/11/2017 8:35 PM

Big Bird wrote:

I think yes. We've heard enough rumors and hints and it's time. I call Minar. Plus others. Commencial, KHS, Intense, Nicholai, Trek, YT?

I'm with you on Minnaar, he always seems to want a bigger bike and he's one of the taller guys on the circuit.

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

4/11/2017 9:07 PM

2. Provided they have good races, Remi Thiron and Greg Minnaar.

3 if Gee has a good start to the season as well.

4/12/2017 1:34 AM
Edited Date/Time: 4/12/2017 1:35 AM

Wasn't Gee spotted riding a 29er last year? I'm pretty sure it was mentioned/hinted on GMBN

4/12/2017 9:02 AM
Edited Date/Time: 4/12/2017 9:40 AM

warner may open the eyes a little bit w/ some of his answers
http://www.vitalmtb.com/videos/features/17-Questions-Rob-Warner,33478/sspomer,2

4/12/2017 10:10 AM

Someone go find Alex Morgan and tell him it's time to unleash all the glory that was BCD in the mid-2000s with garage-built 29er DH bikes. Auto-entry to UCI events for the test pilots of said revamped carbon sleds. Let's mix it up a bit!

4/12/2017 10:38 AM

sideshow wrote:

Someone go find Alex Morgan and tell him it's time to unleash all the glory that was BCD in the mid-2000s with garage-built 29er DH bikes. Auto-entry to UCI events for the test pilots of said revamped carbon sleds. Let's mix it up a bit!

As a guy who rode one of his bikes I can tell you, that man was not appreciated in his time...

4/12/2017 11:43 AM

sideshow wrote:

Someone go find Alex Morgan and tell him it's time to unleash all the glory that was BCD in the mid-2000s with garage-built 29er DH bikes. Auto-entry to UCI events for the test pilots of said revamped carbon sleds. Let's mix it up a bit!

haha http://www.vitalmtb.com/photos/features/BCDs-Carbon-29er-Downhill-Bike-from-2007,3771/BCDs-Carbon-29er-DH-Bike-from-2007,36005/sspomer,2

4/12/2017 11:57 AM

jeff.brines wrote:

As a guy who rode one of his bikes I can tell you, that man was not appreciated in his time...

High Single Pivot big-wheeled monster truck! Everyone who has ridden one seems to say the same as you...BCD has become The Great White Buffalo.

4/12/2017 11:58 AM

sideshow wrote:

Someone go find Alex Morgan and tell him it's time to unleash all the glory that was BCD in the mid-2000s with garage-built 29er DH bikes. Auto-entry to UCI events for the test pilots of said revamped carbon sleds. Let's mix it up a bit!

I think of this every time I hear or see "29er DH Bike" - lasting impression!

4/12/2017 12:49 PM

sideshow wrote:

I think of this every time I hear or see "29er DH Bike" - lasting impression!

I just feel bad that he had to run Nevegals. Didn't he qualify at Bromont on that bike? I bet if he had Minions with DH casings back then it would have completely unlocked the bikes full potential.

4/12/2017 1:02 PM
Edited Date/Time: 4/12/2017 1:09 PM

I think a mixer would be best. 29er up front and 27.5 rear. Like my trail bike! But I say 3 29ers.



4/12/2017 1:04 PM

sspomer wrote:

haha http://www.vitalmtb.com/photos/features/BCDs-Carbon-29er-Downhill-Bike-from-2007,3771/BCDs-Carbon-29er-DH-Bike-from-2007,36005/sspomer,2

sideshow wrote:

I think of this every time I hear or see "29er DH Bike" - lasting impression!

matmattmatthew wrote:

I just feel bad that he had to run Nevegals. Didn't he qualify at Bromont on that bike? I bet if he had Minions with DH casings back then it would have completely unlocked the bikes full potential.

He qualified for MSA in 2007 on a version of that bike, first 29er to race a WC. It definitely had Nevegals though I'm not sure they even had DH casings at the time. I believe he was running a Fox 40 with some file work done to the crown to make the tires fit. I can't remember if he had the 'gear box' version or not.

MSA was also the debut of Decline Team America (f*ck Yeah!), in it's original far-less-than-factory form, for which Alex was also the founder and chief UCI rule-skirting mastermind.

4/12/2017 1:12 PM
Edited Date/Time: 4/12/2017 2:15 PM

general lee wrote:

He qualified for MSA in 2007 on a version of that bike, first 29er to race a WC. It definitely had Nevegals though I'm not sure they even had DH casings at the time. I believe he was running a Fox 40 with some file work done to the crown to make the tires fit. I can't remember if he had the 'gear box' version or not.

MSA was also the debut of Decline Team America (f*ck Yeah!), in it's original far-less-than-factory form, for which Alex was also the founder and chief UCI rule-skirting mastermind.

this time is also known as "the glory days".

(edit, to me!)

4/12/2017 2:09 PM

fabdemaere wrote:

Wasn't Gee spotted riding a 29er last year? I'm pretty sure it was mentioned/hinted on GMBN

I'm not certain about Jee. However, Cole Picchitino has been spotted multiple times on a Session 29r, so Trek had definitely been developing one. I guess we shall see. . .

4/12/2017 3:13 PM
Edited Date/Time: 4/12/2017 3:14 PM

sideshow wrote:

Someone go find Alex Morgan and tell him it's time to unleash all the glory that was BCD in the mid-2000s with garage-built 29er DH bikes. Auto-entry to UCI events for the test pilots of said revamped carbon sleds. Let's mix it up a bit!

I saw this bike at the Mountain States Cup race at Angel Fire in 2007. I don't know the guy, but we were parked next to each other and he asked to borrow a tool and we got to talking. Naturally I had some questions about the bike, how it rode and so forth. He said it was working great before, but that he thought he had broken the shock because he could no longer get full travel out of it. Even with no air in the shock it would only compress about 2/3 of it's stroke. Turned out that the chain was too short. I think he had broken the previous chain and threw on a spare not realizing it was shorter, if I remember correctly. Something like that anyway, because clearly he understands how suspension works and didn't install a short chain on purpose. Definitely an interesting bike, and the Chris King Headset top cap pivot hardware was a nice touch too.
[img][img]http://www.vitalmtb.com/photos/member/warthogs-photos,4412/Angel-Fire-2007-bcd-29er,113985/warthog,12438[/img][/img]

4/12/2017 3:16 PM

Not sure why my photo didn't work in my post above, but here it is again.


4/12/2017 3:34 PM

greerphoto wrote:

I think a mixer would be best. 29er up front and 27.5 rear. Like my trail bike! But I say 3 29ers.



I think that's called a "79.5er"

29" + 26" = 69er
27.5" + 26" = 67.5er
29" + 27.5" = 79.5er

4/12/2017 3:45 PM




4/12/2017 3:59 PM

sideshow wrote:

Someone go find Alex Morgan and tell him it's time to unleash all the glory that was BCD in the mid-2000s with garage-built 29er DH bikes. Auto-entry to UCI events for the test pilots of said revamped carbon sleds. Let's mix it up a bit!

sspomer wrote:

haha http://www.vitalmtb.com/photos/features/BCDs-Carbon-29er-Downhill-Bike-from-2007,3771/BCDs-Carbon-29er-DH-Bike-from-2007,36005/sspomer,2

sideshow wrote:

I think of this every time I hear or see "29er DH Bike" - lasting impression!

Thanks guys. The way downhill has evolved from late 90's to now has been the magical time of the sport. I still watch and race DH at angel fire bc it's not sanctioned and still affordable.
This inedible is on its 4th remake of this same frame as a 27.5 PLUS coaster specific. 150 front hub on back and a Offset crank spline.
It is like a class of downhill that will be for line purists and dirtbags the break there crap and can't cobble there bike together for a Race run with a chain bc there to poor. This is my IG if you want to follow and see a lot of Lycra and chicken posts.

4/12/2017 4:06 PM

sideshow wrote:

I think of this every time I hear or see "29er DH Bike" - lasting impression!

matmattmatthew wrote:

I just feel bad that he had to run Nevegals. Didn't he qualify at Bromont on that bike? I bet if he had Minions with DH casings back then it would have completely unlocked the bikes full potential.

general lee wrote:

He qualified for MSA in 2007 on a version of that bike, first 29er to race a WC. It definitely had Nevegals though I'm not sure they even had DH casings at the time. I believe he was running a Fox 40 with some file work done to the crown to make the tires fit. I can't remember if he had the 'gear box' version or not.

MSA was also the debut of Decline Team America (f*ck Yeah!), in it's original far-less-than-factory form, for which Alex was also the founder and chief UCI rule-skirting mastermind.

2.35 Kenda nevegals with a second bead and casing only in there. I didn't flat that race run but munched my sprocket coasted down 1/2 the track to 73rd. Was disappointed but seeing team decline come to full effect with the help of all the riders on the UCI team and Scott Hart made it a weekend to remember!

Sorry to derail the thread.
I think there will be 5 riders top ten on 29's. And a lot of tire skid marks on the seats of them!

4/12/2017 4:29 PM
Edited Date/Time: 4/12/2017 4:35 PM

rallysmurf wrote:

Thanks guys. The way downhill has evolved from late 90's to now has been the magical time of the sport. I still watch and race DH at angel fire bc it's not sanctioned and still affordable.
This inedible is on its 4th remake of this same frame as a 27.5 PLUS coaster specific. 150 front hub on back and a Offset crank spline.
It is like a class of downhill that will be for line purists and dirtbags the break there crap and can't cobble there bike together for a Race run with a chain bc there to poor. This is my IG if you want to follow and see a lot of Lycra and chicken posts.

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Turn bar to #footoutflatout #HiFiCX

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4/12/2017 4:52 PM

sorry. hijacking with pics of alex from 2003! handmade carbon DH bikes FTW

durango national


idaho national


his place in 2006 in amarillo (sorry so small)


4/12/2017 9:19 PM
Edited Date/Time: 4/12/2017 9:20 PM

sspomer wrote:

haha http://www.vitalmtb.com/photos/features/BCDs-Carbon-29er-Downhill-Bike-from-2007,3771/BCDs-Carbon-29er-DH-Bike-from-2007,36005/sspomer,2

sideshow wrote:

I think of this every time I hear or see "29er DH Bike" - lasting impression!

rallysmurf wrote:

Thanks guys. The way downhill has evolved from late 90's to now has been the magical time of the sport. I still watch and race DH at angel fire bc it's not sanctioned and still affordable.
This inedible is on its 4th remake of this same frame as a 27.5 PLUS coaster specific. 150 front hub on back and a Offset crank spline.
It is like a class of downhill that will be for line purists and dirtbags the break there crap and can't cobble there bike together for a Race run with a chain bc there to poor. This is my IG if you want to follow and see a lot of Lycra and chicken posts.

This thread took a splendid turn. Too good!
Additional photos of Alex racing and the CX vid are the cherry. Awesome.

4/12/2017 10:41 PM

this thread just went to 11 fir sure and leafs me wondering, what wood WC riders think about changing the UCI rule to allow 27.5/29ers?

4/13/2017 1:52 AM

More chance of a 26er being in the top 10 :-)

4/13/2017 6:31 AM

matmattmatthew wrote:

I just feel bad that he had to run Nevegals. Didn't he qualify at Bromont on that bike? I bet if he had Minions with DH casings back then it would have completely unlocked the bikes full potential.

general lee wrote:

He qualified for MSA in 2007 on a version of that bike, first 29er to race a WC. It definitely had Nevegals though I'm not sure they even had DH casings at the time. I believe he was running a Fox 40 with some file work done to the crown to make the tires fit. I can't remember if he had the 'gear box' version or not.

MSA was also the debut of Decline Team America (f*ck Yeah!), in it's original far-less-than-factory form, for which Alex was also the founder and chief UCI rule-skirting mastermind.

jeff.brines wrote:

this time is also known as "the glory days".

(edit, to me!)

Those were the most fun times I ever had racing bikes, esp the masters trip in 06. Alex if you still have the video that opens with Gene Hamilton talking about living in his van down by the river, I would love the file. JP

4/13/2017 7:28 AM
Edited Date/Time: 4/13/2017 7:29 AM

I hope every bike in the race is a 29er.

That way we can enjoy half the field going off track in tight turns (especially the shorties), more broken wheels throughout the day than we've seen since kovarik, and brakes boiling over. Not to mention I'm sure all those tires are up to speed.

It's been far too boring the last 10 years actually watching everyone finish runs on well-developed, matured equipment. Racing should be determined by whims in marketing. Everyone from the 90s knows that.