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I encourage everyone to watch Eliot Jackson's video below and think about the mtb commuity we are part of.
Then go see some awesome work by Santa Cruz bikes to create a dialog in the comments section of their
post and the legend Joe Graney step in.
spomer, can we get an article on the front page about this? maybe an inside line about this issue in our sport?
View this post on InstagramA post shared by Eliot Jackson (@eliotjackson) on Jun 2, 2020 at 3:36pm PDT
Then go see some awesome work by Santa Cruz bikes to create a dialog in the comments section of their
post and the legend Joe Graney step in.
View this post on InstagramA post shared by Santa Cruz Bicycles (@santacruzbicycles) on Jun 1, 2020 at 11:20pm PDT
spomer, can we get an article on the front page about this? maybe an inside line about this issue in our sport?
Reading through the comments of these posts is very enlightening, and helps us realize the depth of the issues at hand. If a person is offended by the simple message contained in these posts, that tells you every thing you need to know about them. They are more than part of the problem - they are the problem.
Like he says "I don't see colour" is just a way of people letting their selves off the hook from having to confront the real consequences that societal structures have.
I've often looked around at races and thought to myself how crazily homogeneous mountain biking is in terms of race, gender and class.
Absolute solidarity
National policing reform? Great, lets do that! Town halls for all colors to discuss real reform? Yeah, awesome!
Not dismissing different negative experiences of minority populations at all, but when you chide well meaning people who "dont see color" or want "all lives to matter" youre pushing away people who want to support you and dont know what the hell they're supposed to do. Its jumping through burning hoops of fire that keep moving and these are the people that want to be a part of the solution. Lets stop pushing people of good intent who dont say the perfect words all the time away and get over it to tackle the hard problems,not the easy missteps or misspeaks. Im not one of those people, im an asshole, so ive heard, but they deserve a little grace . Because alot of us want to be part of a solution
There are no perfect words, but for those of us who come from a place of privilege (and by definition having the time and means to ride bikes and post on forums, we do) this is an opportunity for us to listen, learn and hopefully change our behaviour.
It's gonna be uncomfortable, learning new stuff usually is, but I think most of us can do it if we put little effort in.
I'm going to do my best.
Im just really irritated that the police cant be taken on and create some uniform standards of conduct. It HAS to start there,THEN we can move on to the next thing. Tired of the virtue signaling and meaningless expressions. Too much expressing,not enough doing. I know im not saying anything brilliant,here
Another HUGE problem with saying “all lives matter” is that it is so frequently said in response to and disagreement with “black lives matter.” Black lives are at a greater threat than white lives for numerous reasons in the United States, whether at the hands of Police or due to heightened risk of disease such as heart disease or diabetes. Black people have a shorter life expectancy in America than white people. Until black lives are equal to white lives in this country (and really, worldwide), all lives don’t matter. I would love all lives to matter, but in order to do achieve this, we need to focus specifically on Black Lives, Indigenous Lives, and the Lives of other People of Color.
The same goes for the mountain bike community. I would love to see a cycling world full of more people of color, but those of us who create its culture are going to have to be the ones to reshape, shift, and open mountain biking. We can’t expect black, brown, and indigenous people to just break their own way into a world in which they look different and have different experiences than us.
https://nmaahc.si.edu/learn/talking-about-race/topics/being-antiracist
I feel like education on the matter/following leader in minority group movements, and reading up on history has helped.
If you only do one thing, this video about OUR community is really good->
The world will always be racist until everyone feels the same way I do.
If George Floyd were a white man, people wouldn't have stood there filming - they would have been intervening. When cops kill white people, they end up in jail on expedited murder charges. If you don't believe this, it's because your head is too far up your ass to see it. Plain and simple. Black lives matter.
Claiming to be all for reform of the police etc then denigrating "white SJWs" would suggest that you aren't really serious about any kind of lasting change.
The last few hundred years of calls for incrementalism has lead us to the current flash point.
Also, if you think that you can separate the economic and social realms of politics, you are living in a dream land
You probably shouldnt judge my intentions once ive already clearly stated them by some mythical purity standard. That would suggest that YOU arent really that serious about "inclusion " or "diversity". ..A very "SJW" practice.
I never seperated any realms. I said pick something concrete in THIS realm and make real change. Then move on to the next thing.
Diversity isnt just about diversity of color,its diversity of thought.
Acceptance despite our diversity is the answer,period.
It's the position you've outlined, specifically on it's own terms, that I find ridiculous.
The problem isn't bad management of an otherwise reasonable system (i.e. fix this thing then move on to the next) it is the political ideology that forms the foundation for it. Conservative, Libertarian whatever you want to call it. It's a politics that requires a heavily stratified society to function.
And, im ridiculous...
Uniform, national policing standards that eliminate some of these very dangerous holds.
Bust up the unions that keep these cops from ever being charged and investigated. Thats where alot of these cases get shut down.
Stop self policing, where one police dept 'investigates" another dept for crimes alleged.No more internal investigations
De militarize them, they don't need tanks and that bs.
This may sound silly but, make the uniforms less imposing that theyve become. Plus, its 112 today in Phoenix ,youre gonna be irritable in a full covering of black in the sun..
Their not soldiers, we're not enemy combatants and this isnt a battlefield
Those things are all good in of themselves but I would say that we have the bulk of those things already in the UK and the police are still worryingly competent at killing black people.
But again, why haven't these things happened already, in your opinion
I get the frustration, anger and Im trying my best to put myself in other races shoes and see things from their pov. I gotta admit that sometimes its a fight when it seems like every "group" of anything is looking for the top spot in the oppression Olympics. I don't understand the quest for conquered status by the cis patriarchy when there are clear examples of oppression that get discarded. It all becomes overwhelming and trivialized to an extent . And I certainly dont feel any obligation to surrender any of my "white privilege" to groups of people that are more than happy to continue hating me and making up names and labels to tag to me so that i can be summarily discarded from the conversation.
On another note,here in the US the dominant perspective is that we are the home of racism,the place that invented slavery and everywhere in europe is vastly better and are 100's of years further along. So, you tell me.
Sydney is a multicultural melting pot now, and as such the kindy is no different. This childcare center also caters for special needs/disabled children.
Every day, every photo, all these kids are integrating, inclusive and non judgemental. All kids no matter what race or disability play together in harmony and respect. It blows my mind that 18 month olds sometimes have it together more than anyone else in this world. It truly is a special thing to witness.
Racism, prejudice and non exclusivity are learned behaviors, I'm going to do my best to make sure my daughter treats everyone like she treats the kids in her Kindy when she's older.
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