Anyone have a levo and a ruler?

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1/23/2017 3:20 AM
Edited Date/Time: 1/23/2017 3:20 AM

Hey guys.

Going back and forth between the Levo and the Enduro. Love the Enduro but there is a convenience about the Levo having tiny kids and a Wife working shifts that is hard to pass up. Can belt to the trail, hammer it out and get back before dark...

BUT. In Australia, the Levo is said to have 120mm rear travel - which after testing a couple times, i'd definitely like the 140mm as stated per the US, UK, and all Euro specialized pages and every single magazine test. I think it could be a marketing screwup, but would like to compare... perhaps the FSR bar is longer overseas?

So... Anyone with a levo and a ruler who would care to take some centre to centre measurements for me? On a large, but it does say the chainstays are the same as per their page so should be same.

All measurements, centre to centre:
72mm front eye to back FSR bar
50mm front eye to shock eyelet FSR bar
250mm shock total length
58mm stroke length
355mm chain stay to pivot
400mm chain stay to axle
450mm axle to FSR bar

Any help would be really appreciated! All the Spec guys have only been able to contact front of house thus far, waiting to see if we can hear from the product team but I suspect that answer might be withheld if a marketing screw up.

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Cheers, Crush
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1/23/2017 11:00 AM

@Crush

I believe this is a typo on the Specialized Australia web site (and New Zealand's). All of the Levo FSR models, with the exception of the Levo FSR Short Travel, should have 140mm of travel front and rear. The Short Travel models have 120mm of travel front and rear.

It looks like the fork spec info on those web sites are accurate and show 140mm (or 120mm on the ST model), so it looks like it's just a typo on the frame travel.

Hope this helps.

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1/23/2017 4:23 PM

Cheers bud. Yeah I've seen the 120... down here it has 120 all around, the fork is marketed as the difference as you say.

Hoping that's what it is... So I took those measurements and have had someone in Germany confirm their same frame has the same measurements... and their bike is marketed as 140.

Kicker being, I asked the shop to measure the travel by letting the air out in the shock and measuring the vertical distance the wheel travelled... and they got 120...

So... They're calling Specialized's product team to see. Will be interesting. If they bother to answer. If there is an actual difference in the swing bar... Or if it is a global marketing screw up, in which case I'd suspect they don't want to talk about it with all the people believing they're riding 140!

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Cheers, Crush
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1/23/2017 4:29 PM

Oh, and it was the 6fattie comp that I tested!

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Cheers, Crush
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1/23/2017 5:51 PM

Could be that the rear shock has the same stroke (58mm) but is internally limited to 50mm. Wouldn't be the first time a manufacturer has used this "trick". If so, you could have the shock rebuilt with the spacer removed by a knowledgeable suspension tuner, enabling full travel. I noticed you mentioned being "a Behemoth" in the DH 29'er thread, so it might be beneficial to have the shock tuned for your weight and riding style at that time.

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1/23/2017 6:04 PM
Edited Date/Time: 1/23/2017 8:03 PM

Cheers! I didn't know that that was a thing...

Is that the same or different to "tokens"? I understand tokens are inserted to help the bottoming resistance by decreasing air volume and ramping up the effective spring rate at the end of the stroke?

I am just over 6'6" and 'currently' 250 pounds.

Thinking the comp is the ticket, the yari seemed stiffer than the pike... But perhaps upgrade the wheelset a bit and get a couple e-bike specific chains.

It is a bloody good fun bike tho... great as a cross over from MX. I love the Enduro 29 but with the limited time of having kids, blasting to and from the trails on the Levo is pretty cool.

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Cheers, Crush
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1/23/2017 9:08 PM

From what I understand, it's more like a bottom out stop. Air volume should be (mostly) unaffected, You just have to run higher pressure than the 58mm stroke shock. At 250 you'd be running pressures near the max which would make the longer travel shock a better choice if this is the case. Might also be worth considering upgrading to a coil or air shock with a piggyback right off the bat. I believe Ohlins now makes them for that bike and they'd be available through your Specialized dealer.

The Yari is stiffer than the Pike and would be a good choice. The damper is tuned to match the characteristics of the Lyrik and the Yari can essentially be upgraded into a Lyrik by installing a Lyrik Charger Damper Upgrade Kit. The forks can also bumped up in travel by changing the air spring shaft to a 150 or 160.

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1/25/2017 2:01 AM

Thanks for your help mate.

When I go to take the demo back friday I am going to have a chat to the shop suspension dude, apparently he is pretty cluey so would be good to pick his brain.

Just got back from another ride on it. 100% I need the travel... I'm heavy and not pushing I am so close to bottoming.... Although I guess that also means I could/should question the bike as a trail bike or am I going too hard at it.

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Cheers, Crush
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1/28/2017 8:26 AM
Edited Date/Time: 1/28/2017 8:26 AM

@Crush

I'm putting a coil on the Levo soon. That's all I run on my bikes. It's so much easier to get the stroke set up as you like it with coil vs can. And you can't beat the linear feel of coil.

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1/29/2017 3:38 AM

What is a good option for the coil?

I'll definitely drop maybe 20 pounds pretty quick but that will still have me at 220. I think some more power out back might be good.

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Cheers, Crush
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