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12/14/2021 2:56 PM

Currently running Reserve 30/30 rims with i9 Hydra hubs for All Mountain/Flow Trail use. Are there any lighter weight options that would not be sacrificing durability?

Thanks,
Blake

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12/14/2021 4:11 PM

Why would you want to save maybe 100 grams when you already have a kick ass wheelset? I’m running WAO with I9 1/1 hubs. They’re probably heavier than yours and I find them plenty light. Strong is my first priority though…
Maybe build your rims onto new DT 240’s?

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12/14/2021 11:12 PM

Check out the Berd spoke wheelset from https://www.wheelworks.co.nz/
Or the Pirope / Newman A.30 wheelset
https://pirope.net/produkte/mountainbike/

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12/15/2021 12:11 AM

I9 trail270 are pretty light and strong.. you could even try to get 24h front 32hrear.. but as said above, you are already in light territory..

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12/15/2021 4:37 AM

luisgutrod wrote:

I9 trail270 are pretty light and strong.. you could even try to get 24h front 32hrear.. but as said above, you are already in ...more

Trail270 - is this the follow-up of the previous 245? What is it plenty strong for? smile

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12/15/2021 4:38 AM

Yes, check out Boyd Cycling. They have been around for a long time now and are well known in the Road, Cyclocross, and Gravel World. I have been testing MTB wheels for them for 6 years now and have been through 2 generations of their Ridgeline MTB Carbon Wheelsets. Very durable. The Tripal Hubs have great engagement! My whole race team SEI Racing runs them too for Enduro and DH. We have had great success with them!

My oldest son races on my very first pair of 27.5 wheels giving to me to beat up. Still going strong. When I weighed my last set of 29ers, they were at just over 1800grams. They do have a lighter set, the Trailblazer at 1300 grams that are more for XC.

Check them out:
https://boydcycling.com/

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Enjoy your ride!

12/15/2021 5:22 AM

Definatley check out newmen sl30 alloy rims, I really rate them, I’ve had the same older gen1 hub set now for 3 1/2 years and the original front rim, the rear rim has been replaced twice in that time but a regular year for me is over 700,000 feet of climbing and descending so my stuff is well used on rocky trails. The rims are so hard to dent and with the right spoke tension they stay tight. I will say there newer fade hubs aren’t as good as the older hubs, I bought a fade hub the build up as I thought my old hub was a bit tired but the new hub ended up being relegated to a spare wheel, it works fine I just preferred the feel of the older ratchet hub versus the newer park hub, so maybe newmen rims built on DT350 or even DT240 will give you a bullet proof 1700ish gram wheel set.

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12/15/2021 5:57 AM

Another vote for Newmen wheels. I've got a set of ADVANCED SL XA30 that weigh around 1300 grams for the wheelset. The wheelset is very light but very very stong.

https://www.newmen-components.de/Konfigurator?&StuffId=d707ec0c-5ff3-4b65-9aff-f5b307d05134&

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12/15/2021 7:01 AM

Maybe those wheels are OK, since they're fairly light anyway and a lighter cassette is a decent option?

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12/15/2021 7:54 AM

If money isn't an issue, why not just do the 30SLs with a DT 240? My guess is that would take around 280g off your wheelset now, and 90g per rim which is likely where you will notice the weight the most. Likely a bit less durable with the SL vs 30s though. Having a rim that is covered by a warranty should be a pretty high priority for you IMO as when you go lighter you are bound to break one. Santa Cruz gets the points for that.

Maybe just get lighter tires? For example if you have DHF's Exo+ 2.5, you could switch to a recon Exo+ 2.4 and drop 240g. Or a Dissector dropping ~130g for Exo+ 2.4. If you have a DHF / Dissector combo, switching to a Dissector / Recon will likely have more impact on trail speed than dropping 90 grams off your rim, depending what you want to accomplish.

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12/15/2021 9:57 AM

SLFMotion wrote:

Currently running Reserve 30/30 rims with i9 Hydra hubs for All Mountain/Flow Trail use. Are there any lighter weight options ...more

What's the weight of your current wheelset? I had Whisky No.9 36W rims on Tune hubs with brass nipples and Competition Race spokes at about 1500g on my Tallboy 4. 30mm internal, 28 spoke. I ran them with 2.6" tires at about 18 and 21 psi.

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12/15/2021 12:28 PM

Just chiming in to remind everyone that bike weight doesn't matter.

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12/16/2021 1:03 AM

TEAMROBOT wrote:

Just chiming in to remind everyone that bike weight doesn't matter.

Bullshit! Matters when you’re carrying the bike, matters when you’re riding, especially if you shed grams from wheels and tires. Years ago i managed to shed 750g from wheels and another 700-750g from tires at once - felt like i bought a new dh-bike: that’s how big the change was.

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12/16/2021 9:27 AM
Edited Date/Time: 12/16/2021 11:24 AM

'In a dream world, I'd have a second set of wheels with rotors, a cassette, and lighter tires that I could swap to for mellower rides.' --from his heaviest MTCC bike check. Includes X01 10-42t cassette

I guess we're living in Robot's dream world


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12/16/2021 11:10 AM

TEAMROBOT wrote:

Just chiming in to remind everyone that bike weight doesn't matter.

Bike weight absolutely matters. Have you ever ridden a 25 lb trail bike? A 20 lb dirt jumper? A 29 lb DH bike? Light bikes are super fun.

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12/16/2021 11:31 AM

An appropriately specced bike weighs what it weighs.

The person above that saved 750g from wheels and 750g in tires and wheels was quite possibly using the wrong stuff before, at least if the lighter components met the usage requirements for those trails.

I mean, I had a 30lb DH bike at one point because it was enough for my local trails at the time but as soon as I took it on vacation to a place with more pokey rocks and rougher trails I had a lot of reliability issues.

So the question really becomes "Are you riding the right bike/components to fit you and your trails?"

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12/16/2021 12:53 PM

https://www.fsaproshop.com/products/gradient-wider-mtb-wheelset

Light and wicked strong. I've heard they are about to release a lifetime warranty against defects and a killer crash replacement program.

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"Flow like water.."

12/16/2021 6:43 PM

What bike/travel is this on and what do you want to use the bike for?

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I'm hungry.

12/16/2021 10:56 PM

LoamChomsky wrote:

An appropriately specced bike weighs what it weighs.

The person above that saved 750g from wheels and 750g in tires and ...more

No wrong parts on my behalf. Went from a very heavy dh-worthy wheels to super-light dh-worthy wheels, and from 2-ply Maxxis tires to EXO Maxxis tires (but older EXOs which are different than current EXOs and are stronger, don’t know why - think Maxxis changed something in the manufacturing. My guess is they are as strong as EXO+ probably). Been using this combo for years, even on dh-tracks with sections called “rock rivers” (imagine why! 😁) and never really had problems with them, so i guess no more 2-ply tires for me. smile But this works for me - doesn’t mean it would work for others, too.

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