Isn't Blenki a dad since pretty recently? Maybe his priorities changed. Although this usually comes with an announcement. I'm somehow sure we will hear from him soon. Or the UCI official teams list...
@dolface - you are very right, but I wasn't trying to throw shade at any tire brand. Maxxis are the bar since a long time, since they offered tires that were good, affordable and came in an array of options. Hard to mess with that! Of course I would like it that more brands were at the same level of performance and somehow I suspect they are, but a racer's habit probably weighs more than we know. Gwin's Onza tires were appreciated, somehow it didn't work out with Kenda, but maybe it will with Vee Rubber. Not a Gwin fan, but I respect the man and I wish him to return to his A-game, to make it more interesting!
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Well the Brannigan thing seems to be solved.
Also Suntour finally has a 29" Casting :D
Well the Brannigan thing seems to be solved.
Also Suntour finally has a 29" Casting :D
I hope there's a set on the way to Kye pretty soon.
Also..... Kenda prototype tyres!
All the Gwin hate is just silly stupid.
Why on earth would you mericans destroy the heritage of your best rider of all time? Who of...
All the Gwin hate is just silly stupid.
Why on earth would you mericans destroy the heritage of your best rider of all time? Who of you all knows enough to give a real inside view? Who of you earned money as a professional sportsman? Who of you runs a team? Who of you gave chances to other riders? Who of you did develop products? Who of you was really nice to most people you met at a race? Who of you having so strong opinions are actual riders competing for something?
I find you are a bunch of disrespectful people who would benefit a lot by just being quite and holding back your unqualified opinins.
Well at the end of the day, the riders have the sponsors that they have either because of the results (Gwin had a ton of those)...
Well at the end of the day, the riders have the sponsors that they have either because of the results (Gwin had a ton of those), but more and more so because of the following they have among the public. Social media mostly (sadly), but public nontheless.
As long as the results are there, the marketing departments can sell products through those, but once the results are not coming as often as they did, the other part becomes really important.
The point I'm trying to make? It's hard to have a following if, for whatever reason, the rider, driver, sportsman, public persona, whatever, is not relatable.
Yeah, we are being hard on Gwin. Are we as hard on Minnaar? On Hart? The list of people that are very likeable is really long here. With some people it could be a calculated thing, they can be assholes in private, but that just means they play the game better than others.
Gwin is playing the game that he chose. Kudos to him to earn bags of money, he's earning more than I or most people on this forum ever will. Does any of that mean we still have to clap at him or for him at every step and like him? That we (the public) can't say we don't like either his behaviour, his actions, him? Nope. There is a line regarding what can and can't, should or shouldn't be said, but we can always voice our disagreements.
These riders are, in part, where they are because of us. It's only logical that we have a vote in it all.
I just want to make it clear that I'm not hating on Gwin, but I am being critical of the tyre choice.
I would love to...
I just want to make it clear that I'm not hating on Gwin, but I am being critical of the tyre choice.
I would love to see him back in the mix and challenging for wins.
Maybe if he can stay off the ground, busts out a sharpie and spends a month in Morzine focusing in Euro mud and steeps he can do it.
I am also not hating on Gwin. He seems like a stand up dude. What does disappoint me is that the Intense program never really lives up to what it should/ could be. There does not seem to be a bunch of time placed into training in Euro type tracks. That might be changing now seeing how he is also East Coast based so he get ride mud, cold, rain, rocks, and roots. The SoCal riding is not the same.
I am also looking forward to seeing if my hunch about his bike is true. I saw raised seat stays and a rocker which gives me hope that the new "prototype" frame might "look like a Session", which is a hell of a lot better than what is going on the past few years.
I am hoping that they make it work. I would hate to see Dak suffer, with the heights he is hitting lately, due to a crappy frame design.
I am also hoping that Neko rips it this year on his own frame and program.
Well at the end of the day, the riders have the sponsors that they have either because of the results (Gwin had a ton of those)...
Well at the end of the day, the riders have the sponsors that they have either because of the results (Gwin had a ton of those), but more and more so because of the following they have among the public. Social media mostly (sadly), but public nontheless.
As long as the results are there, the marketing departments can sell products through those, but once the results are not coming as often as they did, the other part becomes really important.
The point I'm trying to make? It's hard to have a following if, for whatever reason, the rider, driver, sportsman, public persona, whatever, is not relatable.
Yeah, we are being hard on Gwin. Are we as hard on Minnaar? On Hart? The list of people that are very likeable is really long here. With some people it could be a calculated thing, they can be assholes in private, but that just means they play the game better than others.
Gwin is playing the game that he chose. Kudos to him to earn bags of money, he's earning more than I or most people on this forum ever will. Does any of that mean we still have to clap at him or for him at every step and like him? That we (the public) can't say we don't like either his behaviour, his actions, him? Nope. There is a line regarding what can and can't, should or shouldn't be said, but we can always voice our disagreements.
These riders are, in part, where they are because of us. It's only logical that we have a vote in it all.
I just want to make it clear that I'm not hating on Gwin, but I am being critical of the tyre choice.
I would love to...
I just want to make it clear that I'm not hating on Gwin, but I am being critical of the tyre choice.
I would love to see him back in the mix and challenging for wins.
Maybe if he can stay off the ground, busts out a sharpie and spends a month in Morzine focusing in Euro mud and steeps he can do it.
I am also not hating on Gwin. He seems like a stand up dude. What does disappoint me is that the Intense program never really lives...
I am also not hating on Gwin. He seems like a stand up dude. What does disappoint me is that the Intense program never really lives up to what it should/ could be. There does not seem to be a bunch of time placed into training in Euro type tracks. That might be changing now seeing how he is also East Coast based so he get ride mud, cold, rain, rocks, and roots. The SoCal riding is not the same.
I am also looking forward to seeing if my hunch about his bike is true. I saw raised seat stays and a rocker which gives me hope that the new "prototype" frame might "look like a Session", which is a hell of a lot better than what is going on the past few years.
I am hoping that they make it work. I would hate to see Dak suffer, with the heights he is hitting lately, due to a crappy frame design.
I am also hoping that Neko rips it this year on his own frame and program.
Nuance and context is difficult to determine on the internet especially when often people don’t put much an effort into making sure they aren’t taken the wrong way. I am as guilty as anyone else.
That said the greedy gwin guys can all fuck off. The libertards who can’t tell the difference between Floridaman and someone with extremely common and wholesome views that are on the other side of the aisle can fuck off too. (I am extremely progressive In my political views) As well as the ones who can’t seem to grasp that Aaron and John are great friends with a healthy working relationship. I have no issue with someone saying hey I wish Aaron was doing better or kenda is effecting his results, (kenda tires are not top tier) or even hey I’m not that a big fan and rather see so and so on the top step. It’s the attacks on his character and motivations that I find completely ignorant and reflective of some of mankind’s tendency to be shitty toward others.
All the Gwin hate is just silly stupid.
Why on earth would you mericans destroy the heritage of your best rider of all time? Who of...
All the Gwin hate is just silly stupid.
Why on earth would you mericans destroy the heritage of your best rider of all time? Who of you all knows enough to give a real inside view? Who of you earned money as a professional sportsman? Who of you runs a team? Who of you gave chances to other riders? Who of you did develop products? Who of you was really nice to most people you met at a race? Who of you having so strong opinions are actual riders competing for something?
I find you are a bunch of disrespectful people who would benefit a lot by just being quite and holding back your unqualified opinins.
Well at the end of the day, the riders have the sponsors that they have either because of the results (Gwin had a ton of those)...
Well at the end of the day, the riders have the sponsors that they have either because of the results (Gwin had a ton of those), but more and more so because of the following they have among the public. Social media mostly (sadly), but public nontheless.
As long as the results are there, the marketing departments can sell products through those, but once the results are not coming as often as they did, the other part becomes really important.
The point I'm trying to make? It's hard to have a following if, for whatever reason, the rider, driver, sportsman, public persona, whatever, is not relatable.
Yeah, we are being hard on Gwin. Are we as hard on Minnaar? On Hart? The list of people that are very likeable is really long here. With some people it could be a calculated thing, they can be assholes in private, but that just means they play the game better than others.
Gwin is playing the game that he chose. Kudos to him to earn bags of money, he's earning more than I or most people on this forum ever will. Does any of that mean we still have to clap at him or for him at every step and like him? That we (the public) can't say we don't like either his behaviour, his actions, him? Nope. There is a line regarding what can and can't, should or shouldn't be said, but we can always voice our disagreements.
These riders are, in part, where they are because of us. It's only logical that we have a vote in it all.
It's not just relatability, it's partly that certain personality traits are a benefit for a public figure. People love loud an bombastic people like Tippie, but he's said himself that he was a pretty terrible person when he was taking drugs, and he was using during most of the height of his fame.
Gwin just isn't a super personable guy during interviews and such. there's nothing wrong with that, but it's a disadvantage as a public figure. Gee gets kinda tarred with the same brush.
Edit: what i should have made more clear, is that Gwin sometimes comes off as kinda arrogant when getting interviewed and such, but that doesn't really mean anything about his actual personality, the same way that Tippie seemed like great fun back in the day, but was apparently kinda an ass.
Other than at least 10 pepole being involved (per cathro's story a few days ago) not much. But I'd be willing to bet that sana cruz and fox suspension are sponsors.
Did anyone else notice Darren Berrecloth on a transition at the freeride fiesta (in his reels)? With alotta deity kit dripping off it? And marzochii suspension? Seems like it’s about time he get a new ride…. But a whole new program ?
Did anyone else notice Darren Berrecloth on a transition at the freeride fiesta (in his reels)? With alotta deity kit dripping off it? And marzochii suspension...
Did anyone else notice Darren Berrecloth on a transition at the freeride fiesta (in his reels)? With alotta deity kit dripping off it? And marzochii suspension? Seems like it’s about time he get a new ride…. But a whole new program ?
Did anyone else notice Darren Berrecloth on a transition at the freeride fiesta (in his reels)? With alotta deity kit dripping off it? And marzochii suspension...
Did anyone else notice Darren Berrecloth on a transition at the freeride fiesta (in his reels)? With alotta deity kit dripping off it? And marzochii suspension? Seems like it’s about time he get a new ride…. But a whole new program ?
His pov post from 3 days ago still has him on a dvo fork. It kinda looked like he was just holding that Spire in the truck, it also had a boxxer on the front, would be odd to get a deal riding 2 different suspension companies
His pov post from 3 days ago still has him on a dvo fork. It kinda looked like he was just holding that Spire in the...
His pov post from 3 days ago still has him on a dvo fork. It kinda looked like he was just holding that Spire in the truck, it also had a boxxer on the front, would be odd to get a deal riding 2 different suspension companies
Well the Brannigan thing seems to be solved.
Also Suntour finally has a 29" Casting :D
@dolface - you are very right, but I wasn't trying to throw shade at any tire brand. Maxxis are the bar since a long time, since they offered tires that were good, affordable and came in an array of options. Hard to mess with that! Of course I would like it that more brands were at the same level of performance and somehow I suspect they are, but a racer's habit probably weighs more than we know. Gwin's Onza tires were appreciated, somehow it didn't work out with Kenda, but maybe it will with Vee Rubber. Not a Gwin fan, but I respect the man and I wish him to return to his A-game, to make it more interesting!
Mx
Also..... Kenda prototype tyres!
I am also looking forward to seeing if my hunch about his bike is true. I saw raised seat stays and a rocker which gives me hope that the new "prototype" frame might "look like a Session", which is a hell of a lot better than what is going on the past few years.
I am hoping that they make it work. I would hate to see Dak suffer, with the heights he is hitting lately, due to a crappy frame design.
I am also hoping that Neko rips it this year on his own frame and program.
That said the greedy gwin guys can all fuck off. The libertards who can’t tell the difference between Floridaman and someone with extremely common and wholesome views that are on the other side of the aisle can fuck off too. (I am extremely progressive In my political views) As well as the ones who can’t seem to grasp that Aaron and John are great friends with a healthy working relationship. I have no issue with someone saying hey I wish Aaron was doing better or kenda is effecting his results, (kenda tires are not top tier) or even hey I’m not that a big fan and rather see so and so on the top step. It’s the attacks on his character and motivations that I find completely ignorant and reflective of some of mankind’s tendency to be shitty toward others.
Cheers!
Gwin just isn't a super personable guy during interviews and such. there's nothing wrong with that, but it's a disadvantage as a public figure. Gee gets kinda tarred with the same brush.
Edit: what i should have made more clear, is that Gwin sometimes comes off as kinda arrogant when getting interviewed and such, but that doesn't really mean anything about his actual personality, the same way that Tippie seemed like great fun back in the day, but was apparently kinda an ass.
This bike check video from Freeride Fiesta shows him on what he calls a “no name frame” but it sure looks like a Sender.
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