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4/5/2021 10:07 AM

Yes, I think Reece winning worlds meant the end for Katy. My guess is they went deep in the funds to pay for Loris and Val (and Jolanda already) and planned to not re-sign Reece and keep Katy. However, he won worlds, has to be renewed which was costly and that extra money had to come from somewhere. So Katy didn't get renewed. I would bet Reece's 'bump' up in annual salary after a worlds win (plus worlds bonus) was most of, if not all, of Katy's annual salary.


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4/5/2021 1:27 PM

mwolpin wrote:

There’s definitely two sides here and I think she covered them both. The raw emotion and honesty from Katy is eye opening to a lot of people who think the sponsored life is easy. Huge props for her not hiding it.

On one hand, I think she’s placing more blame on herself for not being proactive. However, seeing what happened in the offseason, I personally can’t help but think Trek was not as upfront and honest with her. Yes, it’s a business, but to not be upfront with her - someone who has consistently performed (maybe more so than any other Trek gravity athlete) - seems pretty bad. The whole “let’s wait and see after the season” delay, then sign two massive DH riders and only to say, “sorry, we don’t have budget” reflects poorly on Trek.

It also raises questions about where they think they’ll sell bikes. Investing so heavily on the DH side - remember Reese also signed a big extension - which doesn’t sell much bikes and ignoring the Enduro team, which is a bike built for more people, seems like it will deliver much in return.

It's hard not to sympathize. She's got great presence in her vlog, it's well-produced and she rides fast. Any sponsor would be lucky to have her (and it appears someone actually is.)

All that being said, she was at fault for not ensuring she had a ride next year, not Trek. She's a freelancer, they owe her nothing and the assumption on their part had to be that she was shopping around as she didn't yet have a contract with them. If anything they deserve some credit for trying to help her secure a new team- it's not exactly in their best interests to have her posting results for a rival brand. Props to @Scrub on the main release for pointing this out before me, but if she's not comfortable negotiating her contracts and staying on top of her 'brand' then she needs to divert some cash to someone who can do it on her behalf and get herself an agent. This isn't a bash at Katy at all, I've met her, I like her and I'll intend to follow her progress on YT, but I freelance myself (in IT) and the best people, earning twice or 3 (10!?) times what I do have agreements with recruiters to deal with that side of their job (for a higher cut of their rate) while they dedicate their precious time to being outstanding at what they do. I can't help but feel Katy should adopt a similar approach so she doesn't have to devote time to it in future and she can focus on doing what she does best.

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4/5/2021 3:06 PM

Ooji wrote:

It's hard not to sympathize. She's got great presence in her vlog, it's well-produced and she rides fast. Any sponsor would be lucky to have her (and it appears someone actually is.)

All that being said, she was at fault for not ensuring she had a ride next year, not Trek. She's a freelancer, they owe her nothing and the assumption on their part had to be that she was shopping around as she didn't yet have a contract with them. If anything they deserve some credit for trying to help her secure a new team- it's not exactly in their best interests to have her posting results for a rival brand. Props to @Scrub on the main release for pointing this out before me, but if she's not comfortable negotiating her contracts and staying on top of her 'brand' then she needs to divert some cash to someone who can do it on her behalf and get herself an agent. This isn't a bash at Katy at all, I've met her, I like her and I'll intend to follow her progress on YT, but I freelance myself (in IT) and the best people, earning twice or 3 (10!?) times what I do have agreements with recruiters to deal with that side of their job (for a higher cut of their rate) while they dedicate their precious time to being outstanding at what they do. I can't help but feel Katy should adopt a similar approach so she doesn't have to devote time to it in future and she can focus on doing what she does best.

That's why many pros have agents or managers to handle that stuff.. Some people don't want to be talking numbers and such.. It sounds like Katy is taking this as a learning experience and most likely will be proactive next time a contract year comes around..

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4/5/2021 7:03 PM

Brian_Peterson wrote:

I agree with you on the she is saying she should have been more proactive about looking ahead of rime. I think it's commendable on her behalf to take that attitude..

If the Loris or Vali deals fell through, maybe it would have changed things for her.. I think I recall reading that Reece was on a contract year.. If he didn't win the worlds, he might be the one shopping for a new ride.. How much more heat would Trek be getting for letting the world champ go? Remember what happened with Specialized and Kate Kourtney? Also, if you were in Treks position, would pass up the opportunity to get two of the highest profile racers out there right now?

As for bike sales, enduro bikes out sell DH bikes big time. I don't think any of the big companies are in the DH game for bike sales.. Mostly exposure and marketing mixed in with some R&D.. The biggest knock against enduro is that it's too hard to give it coverage like DH.. Also, I still think we will be seeing some events cut from the calendar this year again.. Hard to load up too much on racers that might not be racing..

Another of people talking about Trek having record sales numbers, but those numbers aren't staying consistent. They are selling everything they can get, but there's also a lot of uncertainty as to when the next shipment of bikes will be available. Lead times on the new Session are already getting out there..

maybe i'm not remembering correctly, but I seem to recall hearing that KC's deal with Scott was already in the works before she won worlds. was that not the case?

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4/5/2021 8:36 PM
Edited Date/Time: 4/7/2021 8:19 AM

jonkranked wrote:

maybe i'm not remembering correctly, but I seem to recall hearing that KC's deal with Scott was already in the works before she won worlds. was that not the case?

Could have been... The way it read out to me was Specialized told Kate early on that she wasn't getting a new contract... So, she was already shopping before she won the worlds.. That win had to up her asking price and made Specialized look bad by not keeping her... It would have been good of Trek to let Katy know ASAP that they planned on not offering her a new deal..

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4/6/2021 6:49 AM

jonkranked wrote:

maybe i'm not remembering correctly, but I seem to recall hearing that KC's deal with Scott was already in the works before she won worlds. was that not the case?

Correct. More details in this interview https://www.velonews.com/news/mountain/qa-kate-courtneys-big-move-to-scott-sram-team/

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4/6/2021 8:14 AM

Specialized's new enduro team:

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4/6/2021 8:44 AM

Oh Finale, I miss it so...

Anywho, Charles is running a dual crown fork. Is he riding a Demo (why would he in an enduro team showcase video? o.O) or an Enduro with a dual crown fork? Will he run it in EWS?

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4/6/2021 10:34 AM

Yes, he‘s on the demo.

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4/7/2021 9:26 AM

Primoz wrote:

Oh Finale, I miss it so...

Anywho, Charles is running a dual crown fork. Is he riding a Demo (why would he in an enduro team showcase video? o.O) or an Enduro with a dual crown fork? Will he run it in EWS?

Most likely couldn’t get an enduro frame to him in time. I’ve heard from a few people that shipping things to NZ is a nightmare right now

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Snoopin around lookin for the best trails and sketchiest lines

4/8/2021 10:32 AM

Cecile Ravanel officially retires from racing to focus on coaching the Commencal Enduro Team:

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4/12/2021 2:39 PM

Katy posted to IG that there was a clue in her video last week and i did a quick scrub and saw she was wearing a tee shirt with the Nukeproof logo barely visible.

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4/12/2021 2:50 PM

Interesting. Wonder if it’s a frame deal or if she is sneaking on with Sam Hill and the boys.

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4/12/2021 9:04 PM

Katy would be a good addition to the team...

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4/13/2021 12:30 AM

And Nigel Page has been in the Scottish boarders for most of the winter

That would be so great for her to be on Nukeproof!

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4/13/2021 2:40 AM

bulletbass man wrote:

Interesting. Wonder if it’s a frame deal or if she is sneaking on with Sam Hill and the boys.

I would love the latter to be true but listening to last weeks EWS podcast with Ric & Ruaridh (the one with Charlie Murray as a guest) they were implying that she has sorted her own programme.

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4/18/2021 12:47 PM

Katy Winton on her own team, Moxie XI. Sponsored by Nukeproof, sram, Troy Lee and her grandparents. Great it worked out for her, and apparently sram pulled some strings to help her out. They do get a lot of shit sometimes but cool to see that they're looking after their athletes.

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4/18/2021 1:13 PM

Stoked for Katy - FULL ANNOUNCEMENT HERE.

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4/18/2021 9:29 PM

Only news I've really cared about this off season. Good for her. Hope she crushes it.

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4/19/2021 11:49 AM

Stoked on this news. I really hope she uses the new frame and stands on numerous podiums this year.

Good for her and good on SRAM for supporting her.

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4/21/2021 12:39 AM
Edited Date/Time: 4/21/2021 12:39 AM

mwolpin wrote:

Stoked on this news. I really hope she uses the new frame and stands on numerous podiums this year.

Good for her and good on SRAM for supporting her.

Don't forget Nukeproof for being a solid, stand up company. World needs more Nukeproof and less Specialized.

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4/21/2021 7:02 AM

So, with Katy's news finally being out, is that a wrap? Anyone else outstanding?

Do we start a 2021 Race chat sticky?

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4/21/2021 7:45 AM

Has a race sticky ever been a thing?

Also, I think it's more of a Santa Cruz world lately...

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4/21/2021 7:47 AM

We need bench racing threads like vitalMX does on race days.

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4/21/2021 12:23 PM

Introducing: Forbidden Synthesis

Magnus Manson, Rhys Verner and Jack Menzies Join the All-Canadian Forbidden Synthesis Team

Created in partnership with crankbrothers, Forbidden Bike Co. is pleased to announce our entry into the world of Elite mountain bike racing with the formation of the Forbidden Synthesis team. Featuring an all-Canadian roster with a core focus on the Enduro World Series for 2021, our trio of riders are no stranger to the podium and represent three of the most exciting riders to call this epicentre of the sport home.



Former Canadian National DH Champion, Magnus Manson, might not be a familiar name in the enduro ranks, but thankfully for this 22-year-old BC native, his two teammates live and breathe enduro and will be on hand to help him on his journey. The DH bike won’t be retired anytime soon either and Magnus will be on double duty, mixing things up between select EWS and World Cup DH events while also supporting Forbidden’s R&D department...

“For 2021 I'm super excited to be part of a new and growing brand and on a team like Forbidden Synthesis. After a few challenging years dealing with injuries, I'm thrilled to race again and on some pretty sweet-looking bikes, as well as helping with some of the R&D work that’s currently going on behind the scenes.

Coming from a DH background, I feel like I’m pretty good at getting bikes up to speed quickly, which I think will be helpful when working on a new bike or design. Considering how well the current Forbidden bikes work, I can't wait to begin collaborating with Owen [Pemberton] and the R&D team; they have some exciting new projects in the works! I was lucky enough to get started with Forbidden aboard a Dreadnought late last fall and while I typically struggle to make enduro-style bikes enjoyable for the type of riding I like to do, I found myself riding that bike relentlessly within a few days!

I’m looking forward to competing in a variety of different races this season and in a few disciplines including enduro, which will be a new one for me. Thankfully though, I have some pretty great teammates to help me learn the ropes! I can't wait to see what the summer brings and I'm super stoked to be aboard a Canadian brand who make some kick-ass bikes.”
- Magnus Manson

One of the most promising talents on the international enduro scene, 23-year-old Squamish local Rhys Verner, made his intentions known in 2020 with some stellar results. After making regular podium appearances throughout the Crankworx Summer Series, winning the Queen Stage at the Pietra Ligure EWS, arguably one of the most savage of the season, and rounding out the season with an eleventh place in the overall EWS standings...

“I can’t remember exactly when, but I do recall seeing the Forbidden Druid for the first time and thinking, “that’s a bike I would love to ride one day!” Thankfully I didn’t have to wait too long for that opportunity, which eventually presented itself late last year and after a few months on Forbidden’s bikes, I can’t wait to see what we can do on them at the races this season.

The formation of the Forbidden Synthesis team has not only created the perfect opportunity to take Forbidden’s bikes onto the world stage, something I am ecstatic to be a part of, but the prospect of an all-BC team on a BC bike is a dream come true! With my first full winter of training behind me, having recently graduated from university, I’ve never felt so ready to go racing.”
- Rhys Verner

Our rookie, 20-year-old Jack Menzies, has shown the world he has the speed to win, taking the U21 crown at the EWS in Whistler, 2019. Having recently relocated from Canmore, Alberta to Squamish, BC because, “if you want to be good at enduro, you have to be in Squamish!” Committed to racing and with the skills to upset the rankings this season, we’re excited to see what Jack can do in his last season in the U21 EWS category...

“I'm so stoked to be riding for the Forbidden Synthesis team this year and with such a rad crew of homies - I really couldn't be happier with my teammates and how it all came together. From the first phone call, I just knew it was the right place for me to be - from the inviting attitude of everyone involved to the vision for the team and to the bikes, which have blown me away. There aren’t many [bikes] that you can just jump on and instantly feel like you can go and kill it at the races, making me all the keener to kick the season off and go racing!” - Jack Menzies

Every race team needs someone to steer the ship when it departs on its journey and donning the captain’s hat this season is Thomas Doyle. Having been involved with Forbidden since its inception and featuring in both the Druid and Dreadnought launch videos, Thomas brings a unique set of skills to this young and dynamic race team. Stuntwork for Forbidden’s videos aside, Thomas has also been spending the past few seasons on the World Cup circuit, documenting the activities of one of Canada’s most recognized downhill talents. Applying his media skills to daily duties will ensure Forbidden’s social channels are buzzing with fresh team content throughout a race weekend and we can’t wait to send these boys on their way to Europe...

“It’s been amazing to watch Forbidden grow these past few years - the hard work, passion and coming from such a small group of individuals, the rapid evolution within the brand has been something to behold. Entering Forbidden’s third year of operating and finding ourselves in the start gate for the 2021 EWS season, is pretty amazing and shows what hard work and determination can achieve.

I’m stoked to be a part of a new brand that represents what we at Forbidden love about mountain biking, and that is gelled by a plain and simple passion for the sport. The challenges of the year ahead are exciting and with such a diverse group of ‘characters’ in the mix, we’ll be in for some fun times on the road for sure! From chasing results to exciting film projects and riding new spots and old ones, I’m stoked to show everyone what we’ve put together and have planned for the future, and travelling with the team this summer is going to be amazing - June just can’t come soon enough!”
- Thomas Doyle, Forbidden Synthesis Team and Content Manager

"It took a minute to say yes to Owen [Pemberton] and Olly [Forster] when they initially proposed the idea of building an EWS race team together, but here we are, a few months later and the Forbidden Synthesis team is a reality and ready to go. It’s really exciting to build a brand new team and with a group of people that we like for their human values and for their creativity; we will support and nurture some great Canadian talent, chase some podiums and have some good times along the way!” - Gaspare Licata, crankbrothers CEO

“Creating a factory race team from scratch was the opportunity of a lifetime for all of us at Forbidden, but amid a global pandemic, it was never going to be a walk in the park. With so much uncertainty in the world, not least with regards to racing and overseas travel, but the impact of strained supply chains and a universal lack of product, the odds were certainly stacked against us.

Thankfully though, we weren’t the only brand determined to go racing this season and over the past seven months, began a long and often arduous process that has ultimately delivered a team that we at Forbidden are all immensely proud of. Encompassing who we are as a bike company, be it the riders, the support crew or the amazing brands we have partnered with and the truly passionate individuals who work there. Without them and others in the racing community, this sport wouldn’t be what it is today.

And what a roster of partners at that! Sharing our vision from the get-go, crankbrothers will be supplying the team with their front and rear-specific Synthesis wheels, shoes, pedals and range of tools. We are also privileged to have both SRAM and RockShox by our side, ensuring our riders have the best braking and transmission systems, seatposts and suspension platforms available.

Fizik, whose legacy in mountain bike racing is hard to fault, will be supplying saddles while bars, stems, grips and headsets will be provided by Burgtec and Chris King respectively; the coolest cockpit combo out there for sure. The team will be rolling on Maxxis rubber with CushCore inserts, wearing 7Mesh apparel, Oakley helmets and eyewear, and fending off those falls with protection from 7iDP. Muc-Off will be supplying the team’s bike care ingredients and ensuring the bikes are spick and span all season. With three fast and entertaining riders, Thomas and Alex Presant (our Aussie team mechanic), I can’t wait to get the season started and get the Forbidden Synthesis team to Europe for plenty of racing and fun times, both inside and outside the tape!”
- Olly Forster, Global Marketing Manager and Team Director

Also Introducing: Forbidden Bike Co’s Global Ambassadors

Alongside our factory team, we have assembled a diverse group of riders who embody our core values and passion for all things mountain biking. Starting with riders close to our bases in Cumberland, BC and southwest England, UK, we’ve expanded things further, similarly supporting riders in the USA, Australia, New Zealand and Mexico with plans to expand things further in 2022…

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4/22/2021 5:15 AM

Brayton putting together his own program for 2021, with increased support from Nukeproof: full announcement here.

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4/22/2021 8:20 AM

Odd he didn't have a DH bike for the photo shoot, must be in the queue to get one.

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