New Michelin Wild Enduros? Looks much less mud tyre-esque than the last one - IMO that's what made these so good though (especially here in the UK) so hopefully the previous design won't be discontinued, maybe re-named?
New Michelin Wild Enduros? Looks much less mud tyre-esque than the last one - IMO that's what made these so good though (especially here in...
New Michelin Wild Enduros? Looks much less mud tyre-esque than the last one - IMO that's what made these so good though (especially here in the UK) so hopefully the previous design won't be discontinued, maybe re-named?
Looks very similar to their Wild AM2
Michelin is still doing the racing line version as well.
I knew this one coming, it felt like Shockwiz and Flight Attendant were both Proof of Concept products before they would be combined and integrated into suspension products.
Going out on a limb here...I could see the future of this tied to your Garmin/GPS computer, the same way I download Routes from RidewithGPS or Trail Forks and load them on my Garmin before I ride new trail systems, you'll also be able to download settings/tune for a specific trail.
In the AXS app, you'll program in your height, weight, frame, wheel size, tires, and riding style. The ShockWiz will adjust your fork and shock in real time based on the trail you're riding. Rocky upper section of a trail - It'll adjust instantly to the optimal settings, flowy middle section - it adds compression damping so you can pump and jump, short punchy climb at the end - suspension adjusts so you can power up it without hitting a lockout lever or hitting a Pedal switch on the shock.
I'm sure Sram will collect Data (it's all about that Data!) from riders through the App based on speed, weight, frame kinematics, number of times you bottom out etc. And will constantly update the "tunes" that you can download. I could also see the App having a little questionnaire after you do a run, "Did that run feel harsh?" "How did the suspension feel over rocks?"
If everything is connected through the App it would essentially make every user a Test Rider, they could use the mountains of Data to improve their products without having to pay a single person, in fact, users would pay for the product and also be the Beta Testers.
I knew this one coming, it felt like Shockwiz and Flight Attendant were both Proof of Concept products before they would be combined and integrated into suspension products.
Going out on a limb here...I could see the future of this tied to your Garmin/GPS computer, the same way I download Routes from RidewithGPS or Trail Forks and load them on my Garmin before I ride new trail systems, you'll also be able to download settings/tune for a specific trail.
In the AXS app, you'll program in your height, weight, frame, wheel size, tires, and riding style. The ShockWiz will adjust your fork and shock in real time based on the trail you're riding. Rocky upper section of a trail - It'll adjust instantly to the optimal settings, flowy middle section - it adds compression damping so you can pump and jump, short punchy climb at the end - suspension adjusts so you can power up it without hitting a lockout lever or hitting a Pedal switch on the shock.
I'm sure Sram will collect Data (it's all about that Data!) from riders through the App based on speed, weight, frame kinematics, number of times you bottom out etc. And will constantly update the "tunes" that you can download. I could also see the App having a little questionnaire after you do a run, "Did that run feel harsh?" "How did the suspension feel over rocks?"
If everything is connected through the App it would essentially make every user a Test Rider, they could use the mountains of Data to improve their products without having to pay a single person, in fact, users would pay for the product and also be the Beta Testers.
Now for a coil shock with a built-in linear encoder
Not my fault if vital on the phone sucks and didn’t upload the pic, anyway, there they are
Not my fault if vital on the phone sucks and didn’t upload the pic, anyway, there they are
Not terribly ugly, albeit maybe a little odd compared to the big brands we’ve been using forever.
Galfer rotors and pads are really good. I recommend them to anyone looking for something outside the regular offerings. Considering their position in motorsports, I’m sure their bicycle brakes are going to be solid.
Not terribly ugly, albeit maybe a little odd compared to the big brands we’ve been using forever.
Galfer rotors and pads are really good. I recommend...
Not terribly ugly, albeit maybe a little odd compared to the big brands we’ve been using forever.
Galfer rotors and pads are really good. I recommend them to anyone looking for something outside the regular offerings. Considering their position in motorsports, I’m sure their bicycle brakes are going to be solid.
So lessee: 4-piston, top-loading, moto/Hope style levers, Shimano/cup bleed, 2-piece caliper, 1-piece clamp, looks like reach (and maybe bite-point) adjustment (tool required), what else am I missing?
Not terribly ugly, albeit maybe a little odd compared to the big brands we’ve been using forever.
Galfer rotors and pads are really good. I recommend...
Not terribly ugly, albeit maybe a little odd compared to the big brands we’ve been using forever.
Galfer rotors and pads are really good. I recommend them to anyone looking for something outside the regular offerings. Considering their position in motorsports, I’m sure their bicycle brakes are going to be solid.
Before people continue to try and call them out that its not 6 bar, Intense are calling it a “6-link” design…. Steber has been saying that on his socials all along.
Before people continue to try and call them out that its not 6 bar, Intense are calling it a “6-link” design…. Steber has been saying that...
Before people continue to try and call them out that its not 6 bar, Intense are calling it a “6-link” design…. Steber has been saying that on his socials all along.
Technically, he's wrong regardless.
Because it doesn't really matter if you call the individual structural members "links" or "bars". It's essentially the same thing in this context. Here the mechanism doesn't use six members as a minimum to achieve the desired effect, but four. So it really is a four-link (or four-bar) setup. The mere fact that there's six links present overall doesn't really matter.
But whatever. I don't care. They made a kick-ass looking DH bike and I wish them all the success with it.
Not terribly ugly, albeit maybe a little odd compared to the big brands we’ve been using forever.
Galfer rotors and pads are really good. I recommend...
Not terribly ugly, albeit maybe a little odd compared to the big brands we’ve been using forever.
Galfer rotors and pads are really good. I recommend them to anyone looking for something outside the regular offerings. Considering their position in motorsports, I’m sure their bicycle brakes are going to be solid.
Before people continue to try and call them out that its not 6 bar, Intense are calling it a “6-link” design…. Steber has been saying that...
Before people continue to try and call them out that its not 6 bar, Intense are calling it a “6-link” design…. Steber has been saying that on his socials all along.
Sneaky. Went through Instagram posts and it indeed looks like Jeff has been saying that for the whole time, yeah...
Technically correct I guess. 6-link 4-bar... @FullSend I get what you're trying to say, but... Linkage driven single pivot
Before people continue to try and call them out that its not 6 bar, Intense are calling it a “6-link” design…. Steber has been saying that...
Before people continue to try and call them out that its not 6 bar, Intense are calling it a “6-link” design…. Steber has been saying that on his socials all along.
certainly a better line than, its the same as the spec enduro, but high pivot!
Technically, he's wrong regardless.
Because it doesn't really matter if you call the individual structural members "links" or "bars". It's essentially the same thing in this...
Technically, he's wrong regardless.
Because it doesn't really matter if you call the individual structural members "links" or "bars". It's essentially the same thing in this context. Here the mechanism doesn't use six members as a minimum to achieve the desired effect, but four. So it really is a four-link (or four-bar) setup. The mere fact that there's six links present overall doesn't really matter.
But whatever. I don't care. They made a kick-ass looking DH bike and I wish them all the success with it.
If you want to bust out the "TECHNICALLY..." argument then TECHNICALLY it's a 6 bar linkage. You can google "6 bar linkage" and it's right there for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-bar_linkage
"But the axle path is controlled by only four links!"
OK, if you want to change the definition of a 6 bar linkage to something that is bike specific, then you can call it a "four bar with two extra bars". Which we know as a 6 bar linkage with a 4 bar loop and we've called it that since the 1800s... At which point who cares? Nobody can win either way because of people who say TECHNICALLY on the internet. Intense's bike has 6 links and so they called it a 6 link bike and you're being weird about it? Cmon man.
We use more links in order to get more control over the behaviour of the suspension. What does a "true 6 bar" linkage actually get you? What is the benefit of an axle path controlled by all 6 bars? Please let me know. What is this "desired effect" you're referring to?
The 4+2 that intense is using gives them a lot of ability to independently tune their anti-squat, anti-rise, and leverage curve. The idler has allowed them to do exactly what they want with their axle path. The "not a true 6 bar" argument always makes it sound like a 4+2 is somehow inferior. How is it inferior? Intense's layout allows for greater, more independent control of the aspects of suspension behaviour than 4 bar and most "proper" 6 bar layouts.
Official but no price or geo. Is that really official? I wish they would at least give the damn geo already.
Official but no price or geo. Is that really official? I wish they would at least give the damn geo already.
we asked and the response was basically "not yet" for whatever reason. geo the most important piece of detail to release when announcing a bike. they hinted at spring '24 release, so maybe something is going to change between now and then?
It might even offer some compression damping this time.
Started one so that we can keep the derailment to a minimum.
Nah, we can just create support with spring force, like always. Or when in doubt, more tokens
New Michelin Wild Enduros? Looks much less mud tyre-esque than the last one - IMO that's what made these so good though (especially here in the UK) so hopefully the previous design won't be discontinued, maybe re-named?
Looks very similar to their Wild AM2
Michelin is still doing the racing line version as well.
new brakes from galfer? ugly as..
galfer doesn't make brakes?
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/sram-patent-shows-smarter-built-in-shockwiz-on-forks-and-shocks.html
I knew this one coming, it felt like Shockwiz and Flight Attendant were both Proof of Concept products before they would be combined and integrated into suspension products.
Going out on a limb here...I could see the future of this tied to your Garmin/GPS computer, the same way I download Routes from RidewithGPS or Trail Forks and load them on my Garmin before I ride new trail systems, you'll also be able to download settings/tune for a specific trail.
In the AXS app, you'll program in your height, weight, frame, wheel size, tires, and riding style. The ShockWiz will adjust your fork and shock in real time based on the trail you're riding. Rocky upper section of a trail - It'll adjust instantly to the optimal settings, flowy middle section - it adds compression damping so you can pump and jump, short punchy climb at the end - suspension adjusts so you can power up it without hitting a lockout lever or hitting a Pedal switch on the shock.
I'm sure Sram will collect Data (it's all about that Data!) from riders through the App based on speed, weight, frame kinematics, number of times you bottom out etc. And will constantly update the "tunes" that you can download. I could also see the App having a little questionnaire after you do a run, "Did that run feel harsh?" "How did the suspension feel over rocks?"
If everything is connected through the App it would essentially make every user a Test Rider, they could use the mountains of Data to improve their products without having to pay a single person, in fact, users would pay for the product and also be the Beta Testers.
Now for a coil shock with a built-in linear encoder
Or a pressure sensor in the ifp chamber?
Not terribly ugly, albeit maybe a little odd compared to the big brands we’ve been using forever.
Galfer rotors and pads are really good. I recommend them to anyone looking for something outside the regular offerings. Considering their position in motorsports, I’m sure their bicycle brakes are going to be solid.
So lessee: 4-piston, top-loading, moto/Hope style levers, Shimano/cup bleed, 2-piece caliper, 1-piece clamp, looks like reach (and maybe bite-point) adjustment (tool required), what else am I missing?
It has a pretty “G” on the side of the caliper. At least 10 braking* horsepower added in with that. Its impressive really
Hows the G gonna break stuff, weak point/stress riser?
Edit: nm, got it; "braking". Need more coffee...
Yeah I just fixed that… I need more coffee too I guess. 🤷♂️
ain't nothin but a G thang
intense m1 is official. no deets on price or geo yet though.
Before people continue to try and call them out that its not 6 bar, Intense are calling it a “6-link” design…. Steber has been saying that on his socials all along.
Technically, he's wrong regardless.
Because it doesn't really matter if you call the individual structural members "links" or "bars". It's essentially the same thing in this context. Here the mechanism doesn't use six members as a minimum to achieve the desired effect, but four. So it really is a four-link (or four-bar) setup. The mere fact that there's six links present overall doesn't really matter.
But whatever. I don't care. They made a kick-ass looking DH bike and I wish them all the success with it.
What do you call those other 2 bits then
I think this might also be a case of internal floating piston in place of a diaphragm.
Sneaky. Went through Instagram posts and it indeed looks like Jeff has been saying that for the whole time, yeah...
Technically correct I guess. 6-link 4-bar...
@FullSend I get what you're trying to say, but... Linkage driven single pivot
certainly a better line than, its the same as the spec enduro, but high pivot!
Official but no price or geo. Is that really official? I wish they would at least give the damn geo already.
Would a combination of both be able to tell you anything about how efficiently the damper is operating?
Interesting shock that Dario is running on his Frameworks enduro rig.
If you want to bust out the "TECHNICALLY..." argument then TECHNICALLY it's a 6 bar linkage. You can google "6 bar linkage" and it's right there for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-bar_linkage
"But the axle path is controlled by only four links!"
OK, if you want to change the definition of a 6 bar linkage to something that is bike specific, then you can call it a "four bar with two extra bars". Which we know as a 6 bar linkage with a 4 bar loop and we've called it that since the 1800s... At which point who cares? Nobody can win either way because of people who say TECHNICALLY on the internet. Intense's bike has 6 links and so they called it a 6 link bike and you're being weird about it? Cmon man.
We use more links in order to get more control over the behaviour of the suspension. What does a "true 6 bar" linkage actually get you? What is the benefit of an axle path controlled by all 6 bars? Please let me know. What is this "desired effect" you're referring to?
The 4+2 that intense is using gives them a lot of ability to independently tune their anti-squat, anti-rise, and leverage curve. The idler has allowed them to do exactly what they want with their axle path. The "not a true 6 bar" argument always makes it sound like a 4+2 is somehow inferior. How is it inferior? Intense's layout allows for greater, more independent control of the aspects of suspension behaviour than 4 bar and most "proper" 6 bar layouts.
Looks like a Fast Ride-E: https://www.fast-suspension.com/en/mtb-shock/173-616-ride-e-shock-endur…
we asked and the response was basically "not yet" for whatever reason. geo the most important piece of detail to release when announcing a bike. they hinted at spring '24 release, so maybe something is going to change between now and then?
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