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9/22/2020 4:09 PM

Is that Nuke Proof real? They have that new yellow Mega which looks long travel and now this? Maybe im out of the loop

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9/22/2020 5:41 PM

jason.west.750 wrote:

Is that Nuke Proof real? They have that new yellow Mega which looks long travel and now this? Maybe im out of the loop

#Underbiking is all the rage don't you know. A company must seek balance.

#Waitingforabrandnewdownhillbike...

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9/22/2020 7:03 PM
Edited Date/Time: 9/23/2020 1:12 AM

New Mega [removed at the brand's request - these images have been leaked by sources not authorized to do so, and Nukeproof has respectfully asked not to share them]

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9/22/2020 7:06 PM
Edited Date/Time: 9/23/2020 1:12 AM

[removed at the brand's request - these images have been leaked by sources not authorized to do so, and Nukeproof has respectfully asked not to share them]

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9/22/2020 7:15 PM

jakelecluse wrote:

[removed at the brand's request - these images have been leaked by sources not authorized to do so, and Nukeproof has respectfully asked not to share them]

is there a link to a full brochure?

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9/22/2020 8:25 PM

I think above post may get zucked any minute!

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9/22/2020 9:57 PM

Why do people always say two bikes look the same when they actually only look the same, but have a _completely_ different underlying suspension system?

The Grim Donut counter-comment is spot on, they have an almost exact same suspension layout (though the donut uses a pull-link to actuate the rocker, while the Giga uses a compression link, plus all the details of the pivot placements and so on).

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9/22/2020 11:45 PM

Primoz wrote:
"Why do people always say two bikes look the same when they actually only look the same,"

Yes, why people do that.

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9/22/2020 11:56 PM

Clearly mornings are not for me and I should have said similar. Or should have said when they have a similar shock position regardless of the underlying system.

Plus people expect two bikes to be completely different when they have a different link or shock position when they are actually similar.

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9/23/2020 1:03 AM

Whattheheel wrote:

New Nukeproof coming: [removed at the brand's request - these images have been leaked by sources not authorized to do so, and Nukeproof has respectfully asked not to share them]

PJ205 wrote:

Twinsies!

Photo

not even close

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Professional french asshole filling Vital's thread with baguettes and croissants.

9/23/2020 1:50 AM

And once again they removed the pictures... why even bother making a leaks thread if you’re gonna delete everything when a leak actually happens? What’s the point??

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9/23/2020 2:40 AM

Philip_Rossetti wrote:

And once again they removed the pictures... why even bother making a leaks thread if you’re gonna delete everything when a leak actually happens? What’s the point??

Hi Vital Forum peoples,

This is not Vital's fault what so ever, we have ask them to take it down. The info out was not images of bikes but mock up CAD images which honestly as just shit with loads of incorrect details. These files are only ever intended to go to our dealers (and should never make it beyond this) to help them.

Hand on heart we will never ask to remove genuine "spy shots" out in the field/ testing, where things are open to public to shoot.

We promise your patience will be worth while when the time is right and appreciate all your support.

Again, please accept our humble apologise for ruining any fun.

Much Love,
Team Nukeproof x

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9/23/2020 2:48 AM
Edited Date/Time: 9/23/2020 2:49 AM

You could make it up to us by giving the thread an official early preview before the other sites. That would be a classy move.

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9/23/2020 3:07 AM
Edited Date/Time: 9/25/2020 7:47 AM

Fat chance of that happening, it makes zero sense. It's one thing to take a sneaky shot of a bike being out tested. The manufacturer providing info, before time, is just a shot in the foot. There is a whole industry (Vital included) that signs NDAs and embargoes and prepares the testing and articles beforehand so when the release date comes and the embargo is lifted, the articles are available.

The manufacturer providing this info to a 'random' forum would make all the other sites very unhappy and would invalidate the NDAs. Then it's just a shitstorm who can make the crappiest article he fastest in order to get the clicks ASAP.

We could then just cancel all the embargoes and NDAs, have the manufacturers release the details and seed test products to the sites and have another race to the bottom who can put out the shittiest article the first and get the clicks.

Quality > quantity.

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9/23/2020 3:36 AM
Edited Date/Time: 9/23/2020 8:10 AM

Nukeproofbikes wrote:

Hi Vital Forum peoples,

This is not Vital's fault what so ever, we have ask them to take it down. The info out was not images of bikes but mock up CAD images which honestly as just shit with loads of incorrect details. These files are only ever intended to go to our dealers (and should never make it beyond this) to help them.

Hand on heart we will never ask to remove genuine "spy shots" out in the field/ testing, where things are open to public to shoot.

We promise your patience will be worth while when the time is right and appreciate all your support.

Again, please accept our humble apologise for ruining any fun.

Much Love,
Team Nukeproof x

Photo

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9/23/2020 3:41 AM
Edited Date/Time: 9/23/2020 3:42 AM

I must admit, that is an insane CAD model. Must be done on a pre release RTX Quadro from the new Ampere generation (also used in the RTX 30 series of GPUs).

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9/23/2020 3:44 AM

Primoz wrote:

I must admit, that is an insane CAD model. Must be done on a pre release RTX Quadro from the new Ampere generation (also used in the RTX 30 series of GPUs).

Looks so realistic doesn’t it? Almost as if it were done in the matrix

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9/23/2020 4:19 AM
Edited Date/Time: 9/23/2020 4:26 AM

Primoz wrote:

I must admit, that is an insane CAD model. Must be done on a pre release RTX Quadro from the new Ampere generation (also used in the RTX 30 series of GPUs).

Philip_Rossetti wrote:

Looks so realistic doesn’t it? Almost as if it were done in the matrix

Thanks for all your support. We're trying to play nice.

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9/23/2020 6:51 AM

Ohhh Gawd! Barf! - what's with that front brake hose routing? If I, the consumer, demand such ultra steep STA that there' no movement on the saddle at all and if I do I throw my Pelvis out of whack - I do not want to be looking at some Vermicelli of a Brake Hose.

What were they thinking???


PS - How much will Shipping be to Floridacool ??

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We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true.

9/23/2020 7:17 AM

Philip_Rossetti wrote:

And once again they removed the pictures... why even bother making a leaks thread if you’re gonna delete everything when a leak actually happens? What’s the point??

Nukeproofbikes wrote:

Hi Vital Forum peoples,

This is not Vital's fault what so ever, we have ask them to take it down. The info out was not images of bikes but mock up CAD images which honestly as just shit with loads of incorrect details. These files are only ever intended to go to our dealers (and should never make it beyond this) to help them.

Hand on heart we will never ask to remove genuine "spy shots" out in the field/ testing, where things are open to public to shoot.

We promise your patience will be worth while when the time is right and appreciate all your support.

Again, please accept our humble apologise for ruining any fun.

Much Love,
Team Nukeproof x

Dude you're being a douche.

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9/23/2020 8:09 AM

nskerb wrote:

Dude you're being a douche.

They said they only deleted the cad models which is a lie . So since they said pictures are not a problem there is the picture they “accidentally” deleted, which clearly isn’t a Cad model or is it?

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9/23/2020 8:23 AM

Looks like there is a new propain Spindrift on the way smile anyone got any nice shots? Photo

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9/23/2020 8:26 AM

Philip_Rossetti wrote: Photo

nskerb wrote:

Dude you're being a douche.

Philip_Rossetti wrote:

They said they only deleted the cad models which is a lie . So since they said pictures are not a problem there is the picture they “accidentally” deleted, which clearly isn’t a Cad model or is it?

Also; you edited out the “fuck you” emoji directed towards nukeproof. Solid.

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9/23/2020 8:28 AM

nskerb wrote:

Dude you're being a douche.

He actually kind of has a point.

Think of it this way, there was a leak, caused by either an employee or a dealer. And those happen all the time, it's just a question who you share information you're privy to. Some pople just don't care and post the stuff on the internet. That means we get actions like these, but the main issue is at the start of the chain. For example, I've been aware of what Norco will be doing since early August, but I've kept mum on it (and will keep mum on it) because I gain nothing by spilling the beans (or, if anything, not being privy of information ahead of time ever again), excep 2 minutes of fame. And it's very clear there are quite a few people participating in this topic that have had at least the same info for quite a while longer.

Now, the real issue? Some leaked material was posted on a website's forum by a user. The website is, in the end, responsible for what is posted on said site and what is removed due to some laws. But these kind of posts don't break any racism, hate speech & co laws and are from that standpoint completely OK. Except for the company, that is the target of a leak. Said company asks for said content to be removed and the website operators comply with it. This shows a precedent that the websites operators are willing to comply to said company's wishes.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not pointing any fingers or saying 'this is happening', I'm merely talking about a hypothetical situation as a consumer (of both products, the site's content and the company's bikes & stuff), that is, in my case admittedly a smartass, who has no problems with poking the proverbial wasp's nest and clearly doesn't give enough consideration as to how he appears on the internet, where I see this willingness to comply with certain requests. And then I'm starting to wonder what kind of other requests are there? And are they met? What kind of conditions are set to help them being met, etc.? And that then throws under consideration the neutrality and unbiasness of said site posting reviews of products of said company and the ethics of said company. And all because said company tried to stuff the genie, let out of the bottle, back into the bottle instead of dealing with the problem they have on the other end of the chain.

We haven't had many dramas around this topic in our world, if I'm not mistaken, but there have been a few in the tech world, where companies tied to strongarm some smaller and not so small reviewers into better reviews by threatening to not send them any more products and the like. And even the big sites and reviewers talk about rumors and leaked content, openly (while I have a distinct feeling MTB sites throw out a leaked photo here or there just to increase engagement with the public through comments, effectively feeding us breadcrumbs under the table while they have the whole cake on their tables), but that of course changes once the product is actually close to release, samples are seeded to the reviewers and NDAs are signed.

It's a bit of a rant, it will probably be seen as controversial in some circles (or eyes), but I'm not blaming anything or anyone of doing anything wrong, it's all just hypotheticals and how it _appears_ to the consumer. And I'm well aware running a site is not a simple or ceap business and that forum posts don't pay the bills, but at the end of it all, sites and brands DO exist because of the consumers making clicks and buying gear.

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9/23/2020 9:22 AM

nskerb wrote:

Also; you edited out the “fuck you” emoji directed towards nukeproof. Solid.

I did, yes. That was childish on my part so I removed it.

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9/23/2020 9:53 AM
Edited Date/Time: 9/23/2020 10:14 AM

Yea I'm kinda confused how shops and stuff are allowed to be leaking like this... Imma assume then that companies think it's okay to use it to drum up excitement and just leave this here

https://www.mojekolo.cz/norco-shore-a-frame-silver-silver-27-5-l/

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9/23/2020 9:54 AM

Another question is, will vital staff or Nukeproof will come here and appologise if the, so called, unrealistic CADs will turn out to be exactly as the real bike or it is a simple matter of holding the info by mid-october when the bike should basically be throw on the market?(early October for the new Mega)

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9/23/2020 10:44 AM

EugenM wrote:

Another question is, will vital staff or Nukeproof will come here and appologise if the, so called, unrealistic CADs will turn out to be exactly as the real bike or it is a simple matter of holding the info by mid-october when the bike should basically be throw on the market?(early October for the new Mega)

We're here now and kind of all I am asking is that we would prefer to keep our toys in our toy box until its time to play with them.

This bike that has been shared/ leaked by a dealer (an error on their part) is still some way off with no fixed release date- especially difficult to pin in the current global climate (and way beyond October FYI!). We choose not to release information too early so to not frustrate/ infuriate potential customers, that may think it will be here next week. We're pretty open as one of the brands that chooses (most of the time) to test public facing usually at the highest level of races to ensure the product is correct (see prev. Mega/ Dissent/ Pulse etc.)

This "leak" was privileged information for dealers at a very earlier stage to allow them to help forecast sales/ place orders.

I wanted to come on here earlier to explain/ apologise for asking Vital MTB to remove some info (just as it was a little damaging). We're super excited to talk new bikes when the timing is right and hope you all understand.

We look forward to talking new bikes with you all in due course. Today I'm happy to talk about our new kids Cub-Scouts smile

Cheers,
Rob
Nukeproof Marketing manager

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9/23/2020 12:29 PM
Edited Date/Time: 9/23/2020 12:33 PM

Nukeproofbikes wrote:

We're here now and kind of all I am asking is that we would prefer to keep our toys in our toy box until its time to play with them.

This bike that has been shared/ leaked by a dealer (an error on their part) is still some way off with no fixed release date- especially difficult to pin in the current global climate (and way beyond October FYI!). We choose not to release information too early so to not frustrate/ infuriate potential customers, that may think it will be here next week. We're pretty open as one of the brands that chooses (most of the time) to test public facing usually at the highest level of races to ensure the product is correct (see prev. Mega/ Dissent/ Pulse etc.)

This "leak" was privileged information for dealers at a very earlier stage to allow them to help forecast sales/ place orders.

I wanted to come on here earlier to explain/ apologise for asking Vital MTB to remove some info (just as it was a little damaging). We're super excited to talk new bikes when the timing is right and hope you all understand.

We look forward to talking new bikes with you all in due course. Today I'm happy to talk about our new kids Cub-Scouts smile

Cheers,
Rob
Nukeproof Marketing manager

Well, that's more of a decent reply. It would have been much more simple to come forward and say this from the beginning, I think...

Anyway, personally, this bike caught my interest as soon as I saw the spy-photo on instagram around a month ago, considering it to be the perfect complement to my reactor(I'm not racing any enduros and for epic all-and over-mountain trips, my reactor is more than adequate);
As we are talking about dealer fcst in cogs and quantities, then it is not quite in a such a 'less' advance stage; if you don't launch in october(which is a bummer for me), it will probably be released in spring. No worries, I can buy one even then but you should look closely at the time frame as before the next season, there are a pretty serious number of bikes that are in final stages of being launched. (I don't want to play the connoisseur because I'm not...I'm just adding some things that are pretty obvious)

Anyway, I will be looking forward for this bike, whenever you guys decide it's the right time. Best of luck!

Cheers!

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9/23/2020 12:59 PM

pohsoonteng wrote:

Yea I'm kinda confused how shops and stuff are allowed to be leaking like this... Imma assume then that companies think it's okay to use it to drum up excitement and just leave this here

https://www.mojekolo.cz/norco-shore-a-frame-silver-silver-27-5-l/

Best part is large red embargo stamp :D But for real, whats up with all those new bikes and parts being put on internet this year ahead of their release times? I remember Meta with clear pictures of zeb like a month before its release (even though everyone knew it was coming), w(TF)/e Specialized tried to do with the status, now this? I've been following these threads for long time and really do not remember so many fcks up in previous years and I definetly do not remember companies lurking around and imposing embargos...

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