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Big Bird 6/10/2021 5:48pm
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Primoz wrote:
Looking at the pic, the carrier arms look to be offset a bit or at least darker on every second one of them too.
Trippy. Two layers sandwiched together? Instead of one thicker layer?
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mfoga 6/10/2021 7:03pm
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Philip_Rossetti wrote:
Yes they’re definitely not 35mm anymore. To be expected imo. Can’t have your enduro fork be thicker than your Dh fork. Not for performance but for...
Yes they’re definitely not 35mm anymore. To be expected imo. Can’t have your enduro fork be thicker than your Dh fork. Not for performance but for marketing🙃
Wasn’t the Boxxer 32 and Totem 40 and Lyirc 36 back in the day?
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Jakub_G 6/11/2021 12:36am
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Philip_Rossetti wrote:
Yes they’re definitely not 35mm anymore. To be expected imo. Can’t have your enduro fork be thicker than your Dh fork. Not for performance but for...
Yes they’re definitely not 35mm anymore. To be expected imo. Can’t have your enduro fork be thicker than your Dh fork. Not for performance but for marketing🙃
mfoga wrote:
Wasn’t the Boxxer 32 and Totem 40 and Lyirc 36 back in the day?
Lyrik was 35mm, just like this "new" boxxer is.
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Primoz 6/11/2021 12:43am
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Yeah, RS never had a 36 mm chassis. And the 35 Boxxer came onto the market around 2008ish,around the time when peaty was world champ and the like.

Norco to Poc was obvious since blenki had his video shot, he was on full Poc gear at the time.

Big Bird dunno, kinda doubt it, the picture is not really good. It's hard to see the benefit of it (unless it's 2 1,5 mm layers for added stiffness or something, but will existing calipers eat that thickness?) and it doesn't have any floating features and the like. If it's not two piece I don't see it being actually like that as it would be a PITA to remove that material. Considering it's laser cut, not stamped.
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iceman2058 wrote:
This has been discussed before I believe but Loic is still hiding something...or is he? #mindgames #maybe View this post on Instagram A post shared by...
This has been discussed before I believe but Loic is still hiding something...or is he? #mindgames #maybe

Zip tie under the bar, still hiding something to me, either telemetry or shock tune
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sharpy212 6/11/2021 5:46am
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sharpy212 wrote:
You sure they aren’t just Avid discs?
SupremeShreder42 wrote:
I don‘t think so. They look different around the 6-bolts and also the holes in the surface look different. And are they even avalible in 220...
I don‘t think so. They look different around the 6-bolts and also the holes in the surface look different. And are they even avalible in 220?
Troy only runs 200mm… and there’s a few other version of avid discs.
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sharpy212 6/11/2021 5:50am
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sharpy212 wrote:
You sure they aren’t just Avid discs?
SupremeShreder42 wrote:
I don‘t think so. They look different around the 6-bolts and also the holes in the surface look different. And are they even avalible in 220...
I don‘t think so. They look different around the 6-bolts and also the holes in the surface look different. And are they even avalible in 220?
sharpy212 wrote:
Troy only runs 200mm… and there’s a few other version of avid discs. [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/06/11/10944/s1200_CB8925FC_39EF_4061_9156_8B3CDC9CF660.jpg[/img]
Troy only runs 200mm… and there’s a few other version of avid discs.
Like these…..
Philip_Rossetti 6/11/2021 7:36am
6/11/2021 7:36am
sharpy212 wrote:
Troy only runs 200mm… and there’s a few other version of avid discs. [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/06/11/10944/s1200_CB8925FC_39EF_4061_9156_8B3CDC9CF660.jpg[/img]
Troy only runs 200mm… and there’s a few other version of avid discs.
I’m so dumb I tried to close that cookies thingy at the bottom of the page
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Jakub_G 6/11/2021 10:57am
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SupremeShreder42 wrote:
I don‘t think so. They look different around the 6-bolts and also the holes in the surface look different. And are they even avalible in 220...
I don‘t think so. They look different around the 6-bolts and also the holes in the surface look different. And are they even avalible in 220?
sharpy212 wrote:
Troy only runs 200mm… and there’s a few other version of avid discs. [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/06/11/10944/s1200_CB8925FC_39EF_4061_9156_8B3CDC9CF660.jpg[/img]
Troy only runs 200mm… and there’s a few other version of avid discs.
sharpy212 wrote:
Like these….. [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/06/11/10945/s1200_28A48978_A169_4654_BDB6_681164662D54.jpg[/img]
Like these…..
Great, now go back and find 3 differences between this one and the one on Troy´s bike lol.
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Angu58 6/11/2021 11:20am
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iceman2058 wrote:
This has been discussed before I believe but Loic is still hiding something...or is he? #mindgames #maybe View this post on Instagram A post shared by...
This has been discussed before I believe but Loic is still hiding something...or is he? #mindgames #maybe

Is it just me or does that first picture look carbon? I'm pretty sure it's not, based on the seat tube/top tube intersection, but the downtube does look smooth.
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RiderMikeCheck1 6/11/2021 2:12pm
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I think Troy was running a Dissector out back today. Assuming because it clears better than DHR2 and brakes better than Shorty 2.
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tavaenga 6/11/2021 7:36pm
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RiderMikeCheck1 wrote:
I think Troy was running a Dissector out back today. Assuming because it clears better than DHR2 and brakes better than Shorty 2.
Actually looks like he was on Wetscreams front & back in qualifying.
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sspomer 6/11/2021 7:43pm
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the cannondale high pivot enduro bike from the naec today

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madsam9 6/11/2021 11:46pm
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Isn't the official release on June 22nd or something?
fredmeister 6/12/2021 1:57am
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Spotted this Prototype in a beer garden in Freiburg, Germany post ride. Specialized? BMC?




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shreda 6/12/2021 2:42am
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Possibilities are endless...

Also seems to be sporting some unreleased rubber from Onza.
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shreda wrote:
Possibilities are endless...

Also seems to be sporting some unreleased rubber from Onza.
I'd be inclined to guess it's a Canyon, based on the Acros headset and seat clamp area... And its in Germany
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krabo83 6/12/2021 3:21am
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shreda wrote:
Possibilities are endless...

Also seems to be sporting some unreleased rubber from Onza.
TimBud wrote:
I'd be inclined to guess it's a Canyon, based on the Acros headset and seat clamp area... And its in Germany
maybe new canyon strive.
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taifi 6/12/2021 3:39am
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shreda wrote:
Possibilities are endless...

Also seems to be sporting some unreleased rubber from Onza.
TimBud wrote:
I'd be inclined to guess it's a Canyon, based on the Acros headset and seat clamp area... And its in Germany
krabo83 wrote:
maybe new canyon strive.
Bmc…
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Sonofbovril2 6/12/2021 3:42am
6/12/2021 3:42am
fredmeister wrote:
Spotted this Prototype in a beer garden in Freiburg, Germany post ride. Specialized? BMC? [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/06/12/10949/s1200_91204A98_F44A_4C79_8820_CC3A97442901.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/06/12/10950/s1200_7FC2CB92_3BE3_4E84_811D_EAB92488EC6A.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/06/12/10951/s1200_306E4BAD_C6D7_4976_81BB_2F9A3D926F18.jpg[/img]
Spotted this Prototype in a beer garden in Freiburg, Germany post ride. Specialized? BMC?




Looks like a cube or something?
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sspomer 6/12/2021 7:27am
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Sonofbovril2 wrote:
Looks like a cube or something?
agreed. cube-ishness to it. here's danny's cube DH bike. seat mast/clamp look similar enough, as does the general link aesthetics.

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Angu58 6/12/2021 10:00am
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fredmeister wrote:
Spotted this Prototype in a beer garden in Freiburg, Germany post ride. Specialized? BMC? [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/06/12/10949/s1200_91204A98_F44A_4C79_8820_CC3A97442901.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/06/12/10950/s1200_7FC2CB92_3BE3_4E84_811D_EAB92488EC6A.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/06/12/10951/s1200_306E4BAD_C6D7_4976_81BB_2F9A3D926F18.jpg[/img]
Spotted this Prototype in a beer garden in Freiburg, Germany post ride. Specialized? BMC?




It's got the cube seat tube, and the rocker looks like the cube DH bike.
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Prophet26 6/12/2021 10:13am
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That Cannondale looks great. If they follow the pattern of reusing old names then they might call it the Prophet.

I'm about to go shred on my updated "gen 1".
TheShortestCharles 6/12/2021 10:35am
6/12/2021 10:35am
fredmeister wrote:
Spotted this Prototype in a beer garden in Freiburg, Germany post ride. Specialized? BMC? [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/06/12/10949/s1200_91204A98_F44A_4C79_8820_CC3A97442901.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/06/12/10950/s1200_7FC2CB92_3BE3_4E84_811D_EAB92488EC6A.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/06/12/10951/s1200_306E4BAD_C6D7_4976_81BB_2F9A3D926F18.jpg[/img]
Spotted this Prototype in a beer garden in Freiburg, Germany post ride. Specialized? BMC?




Rocker link definitely looks like a Cube; same suspension layout as well so that's my best guess
bermslapper69 6/12/2021 11:36am
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Prophet26 wrote:
That Cannondale looks great. If they follow the pattern of reusing old names then they might call it the Prophet. I'm about to go shred on...
That Cannondale looks great. If they follow the pattern of reusing old names then they might call it the Prophet.

I'm about to go shred on my updated "gen 1".
It’s being called the Jekyll, it’s been in the dealer catalog since early 2021
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Losifer 6/12/2021 2:45pm
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RiderMikeCheck1 wrote:
I think Troy was running a Dissector out back today. Assuming because it clears better than DHR2 and brakes better than Shorty 2.
tavaenga wrote:
Actually looks like he was on Wetscreams front & back in qualifying.
In the post race interview I believe he talks about switching to dry tires...
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grinch 6/12/2021 3:11pm
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Proto definitely looks to be a cube. Full 1.5 headtube , longish link and burley seat/chainstay point to 170 or 180 rear travel
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Prophet26 6/12/2021 5:20pm
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bermslapper69 wrote:
It’s being called the Jekyll, it’s been in the dealer catalog since early 2021
Cool. I like the Jekyll name and it'll keep things easy-ish when I need parts specific to the Prophet.

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