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4/14/2017 7:22 PM

A little bird told me that Trek R&D was riding what looked like full carbon Session 29ers along with the raw alu 29er proto from the Dirt Mountain Bike Article. The bikes looked super well finished, almost as if they were production but they didn't have the braking damper like on the alu proto. Who knew trek was testing in southern colorado, maybe around the Trinidad area?

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4/14/2017 11:14 PM

PeteB wrote:

A little bird told me that Trek R&D was riding what looked like full carbon Session 29ers along with the raw alu 29er proto from the Dirt Mountain Bike Article. The bikes looked super well finished, almost as if they were production but they didn't have the braking damper like on the alu proto. Who knew trek was testing in southern colorado, maybe around the Trinidad area?

I can back this up, trek RAD was testing carbon session 29ers at Trinidad this week, the dirt mag article only shows the aluminum version, but there will defiantly carbon session 29ers for Lordes. let the fun begin.

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4/14/2017 11:17 PM

PeteB wrote:

A little bird told me that Trek R&D was riding what looked like full carbon Session 29ers along with the raw alu 29er proto from the Dirt Mountain Bike Article. The bikes looked super well finished, almost as if they were production but they didn't have the braking damper like on the alu proto. Who knew trek was testing in southern colorado, maybe around the Trinidad area?

The damper is a bolt on addition, it's not integrated.

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4/14/2017 11:22 PM
Edited Date/Time: 4/14/2017 11:24 PM

Primoz wrote:

I find it funny how Voss claims his design needs almost no damping while Jose says that a system needs damping in order to function.

I think i'll stick with the opinion of the guy, that worked with MX bikes, designed shock absorbers and has developed many race winning bikes over the opinion of a guy that designed URT mountain bikes...

DubC wrote:

I caught that contradiction as well. Interesting difference in philosophy. Car's, moto's and other vehicles all seem heavily dependent on damping....but who knows...maybe bikes are different enough. The initial reports on this new suspension design seem impressively promising.

I'll stick with the opinion of trying something before I pass too much judgement. Just because someone designed good or bad things in the past it doesn't always speak to what they design in the future. Everyone starts somewhere.

You have a very good point here about opinions, one I should follow as well. But I can't get out of my skin :-D

As for damping, bikes aren't much different to other vehicles, moving systems need damping in order to prevent unwanted oscillations. The only issues I can see with bikes are first that the rider plays a significant role in system weight, which means the suspension needs to be much more finely tuned from rider to rider (both spring rates and damping) and secondly the reliance on compression damping in order to make the bike pedal in the case if some designs. This is maybe the point where Voss comes from.

But, how many times have you read "the bike pedals well, but the compression damping is too high and is noticeable while descending"? I think these days most longer travel bikes have priorities (and thus damping) pretty much sorted.

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4/19/2017 12:32 PM

Matt Walker testing what looks like a 180mm front travel DH bike with fox today in Portugal... Could it be a 29"?

They also seem to be testing the 27.5 version with loads of data acquisition tech, so I'd have said it's unlikely that it's another 27.5 prototype.


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4/19/2017 12:37 PM
Edited Date/Time: 4/19/2017 12:38 PM

Look at the diference in the stanchion diameter, it s an enduro bike, you can even see the top of the fox transfer under the sadle

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4/20/2017 4:35 PM

Twenty-f@#*ing-niners everywhere !



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IMunteanu

4/26/2017 1:43 AM

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9/3/2017 8:53 PM

With WC around the corner, anyone hear any grumblings about people moving around?

Changes at GT?

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9/4/2017 1:43 AM

MPH24 wrote:

With WC around the corner, anyone hear any grumblings about people moving around?

Changes at GT?

Warner said something at the last round... Anyway a new topic is required. Bring on 2018.

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9/4/2017 2:10 AM

Just gonna leave this here:

- Danny Hart to Saracen (contracts are signed)
- Fischbach to Cube
- Williamson to Saracen
- Baby-faced Southafrican to launch Investec Factory Racing
- Wyn to Polygon
- Brook to MS Mondraker
- Greg retires -> Eliot replaces him at SC
- Amaury to Specialized
- Steve Peat as UCI delegated with Greg as assistant
- Payet to Propain
- New Redalp factory team with a kiwi as rider
- Tomac stays with Kawasaki

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9/4/2017 3:16 AM

2018 rumors already? -> THIS WAY TO THE NEW THREAD. Post 'em up there!

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