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Two things... 1) Fox just reported earnings last night - unsurprisingly was a blow out quarter. If someone has time listen to the conference call (its recorded). Guessing they dive into supply chain issues as it was mentioned in the PR. 2) What you listed ... more »

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Serious question - what is actually impossible to get right now (besides frames)? I just pieced together a frankenbike with zero issues. Maybe I can't get exactly what I want, but it doesn't appear all wheels, derailleurs, suspension etc is out of stock. ... more »

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This is surprising to me. 66M people in the UK. 4K new cases everyday. About half the population has at least one dose of the vaccine (which is showing to work pretty well, even without the booster). Add to that number the subset that has already had ... more »

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Do you have a shortcut to the "®" you can share with us? Certainly you aren't copying and pasting this every time you write PAPERBOY® are you?

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Paging @Teamrobot....

Added a comment about product review Review - 2022 Specialized Turbo Levo Pro eMTB 3/24/2021 12:30 PM
jeff.brines

We replied at the same time - lol - so this likely won't come across cohesive at all to anyone reading this.

Sorry to keep the debate going, but I have to at least challenge your claims. The most obvious being I am contesting the e-bike movement to just own up to what it is, an electric dirt bike movement. That is the evolution, right? Otherwise this is like the telemark ski of electronic motors. Its harder just to be...harder. It'll keep a niche, but the resuorces will go to bikes (normal pedal bikes) and fully electric bikes (with pegs and motorcycle controls). They'll be lighter like a mountain bike, but the cranks are just in the way of what this should in fact be.

Again, if these companies stopped focusing on the "it has to have pedals" part and started focusing on the "lets just make it fun and as technologically cool as possible" it'd make a whole lot more sense. This is the core part of my argument.


Three other things - just so I can spell out where I disagree.


1) If you can transport a 50 pound bike you *very* likely can transport a 120 pound bike. Frankly, I can't think of a hitch that'll be rated to 100 pounds but not 150 pounds. I'm sure it exists. Regardless, if this is your main problem, you probably need to make other life decisions that line up with owning a $13,000 bicycle
2) 50 miles is quiet good. They claim 75, but if it hits 50 I'll be psyched. For reference, my 300 won't go more than 50 without carrying spare fuel. To add, its literally being sold at best buy, and having "built" one, I'm pretty sure you won't need any bigger shop than your e mtb takes. Hell, this is smaller than my mtbs in terms of how much space it takes up.
3) I do agree if you are the type to try and perfectly control a workout e-bikes rule. But if you are going to stare at a heart rate monitor at that point I'm guessing you don't check Vital very often, subscribe to VeloNews, have a cool Colnago and weigh your food. Soooooo moot point?

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Liked a comment on the item Review - 2022 Specialized Turbo Levo Pro eMTB 3/24/2021 12:19 PM

Ah, yes.
Good to point out that this was all done on e-mountain bike legal trails. My friends just happened to not have E-bikes. The local bike park allows them as well as the surrounding moto trails.

Second. Yes, I was alluding to ICE motos. This segway is it's...more

Liked a comment on the item Review - 2022 Specialized Turbo Levo Pro eMTB 3/24/2021 12:19 PM

Yeah, that makes sense. I totally agree that e-bike are not mountain bikes, and far from the power of dirt bikes. But, personally, a dirt bike wouldn't fit into my lifestyle. I can turn off the motor for an e-bike and ride with friends on their normal bikes (I do it...more

Added a comment about product review Review - 2022 Specialized Turbo Levo Pro eMTB 3/24/2021 12:18 PM
jeff.brines

One other thing I have to push back against. "The Resources to keep a moto are immense". An E-Dirt bike is easier to maintain than a mountain bike. But I'd even argue a moto isn't all that much different, especially if you are keeping it apples ot apples ($13K e bike vs $10K moto)

Exhibit A: . https://www.instagram.com/p/CMxtltjA2eU/ (this guy is at hour 80 on his KTM, has done literally zero things to the bike except ride it, he even purposefully swamped it)

Exhibit B: Even the KTM manual now states 40 hours for gear box oil changes. Beyond that all you do is clean your filter, oil your chain and ride. No carb to clean. No jetting. No valve adjustments (if you ride 2 smokers...which all the mountain riders do at this point). You literally just ride the damn thing. Tires are cheaper than a mountain bike and so are brake pads. I

Unless you crash a lot I would argue my mountain bike takes more wrenching per hour ridden (assuming I don't crash a ton in either case).

Just wanted to point this out in case you decide to move past playing "just the tip" of motorized access" wink (you should!)

Good review btw, this is by no means supposed to knock the immense effort you've put forth in analyzing the bike's performance.

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Added a comment about product review Review - 2022 Specialized Turbo Levo Pro eMTB 3/24/2021 11:25 AM
jeff.brines

What we disagree with is two fold...

First, Anywhere you ride an eMTB should be the same trails you ride dirt bikes (or any other motorized vehicle on). Like you said, its not a mountain bike, its a mountain bike with a motor.

Using the eMTB to skirt this rule is lame in my book. Not because these bikes aren't cool or it wouldn't be fun, but because it will most certainly add to trail conflict, lumping "mountain bikes" in with the same guy that was goin uphill at 20MPH through a techy section scaring hikers away. Sure, that might have happened without e bikes on the downhill, but now you have bigger volumes of people on e-bikes covering 2-5x the ground at higher speed in this trail access grey area. How is that in the spirit of "non motorized access trails"? I say they belong on motorized trails, and I say this as someone who wants to keep pedal access (and motor access) as prolific as possible. I see this being the best way (game theory must be applied).

Second, if you can own an eMTB you can own this https://store.segway.com/segway-dirt-ebike-x260 - its FAR cheaper than the Specialized and with a few parts swapped out, its more fun. Every excuse you just gave pertaining to moto just went away. It will roost corners, jump, go 50 miles on a charge etc etc. Its not a mountain bike and its not a moto. Its a whole new thing, its what e-bikes should in fact just "own up to" and become.


Finally, ask any moto rider, keeping your heart rate high is not a challenge. Pedaling it turns out has a lot less to do with making something aerobic than we thought (see also: any chainless run)

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Added a comment about product review Review - 2022 Specialized Turbo Levo Pro eMTB 3/24/2021 9:19 AM
jeff.brines

Silly or not, let the market decide if this is worth $13K. Some dude just bought a $69M NFT, who are we to decide if something "makes sense" for the market?

My $0.02 is these bikes are stupid. At a point when do we stop lying to ourselves and replace the cranks with pegs, put a higher output motor/batter and just call it what it is - an electric dirt bike (I own one). Nothing wrong with it, but trying to make a sport out of the pedaling when the technology is there to just have fun seems like a no brainer.

Put another way, how many pedal assist mopeds still exist? Not many.

Specialized honestly should just stop lying to themselves and come out of the proverbial electric dirt bike closet. Make one of these at the same price point that has pegs, a high output motor, weighs 110 pounds and smokes my 300TPI.

They could do it. And that'd be worth the money.

This is just something that leaves mountain bikers going "I guess its cool" and dirt bikers going "why would I buy it".

Anyone in their right mind would do better buying a full on dirt bike and a full on trail bike, and using the right tool on the right trail (eg access)

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Liked a comment on the item Review - 2022 Specialized Turbo Levo Pro eMTB 3/24/2021 9:05 AM

Hopefully more people are starting to understand this is not a mountain bike. Big difference from the variety without a motor.

And as a side note, didnt expect a new KTM 300 XC tpi to look downright affordable. Trip money left over too. Lol.

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I’m gonna need to see some riding clips to make sure Teamrobot has still got the clout on MTB. Last I heard he bought a Volvo- and got a job as an insurance actuary or something (aka- he “fell off”)