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Liked a comment about news blog RESULTS - Qualifying, Val di Sole World Cup Downhill 9/2/2022 11:04 AM
Dave_Camp

someone tell those juniors to chill out.

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Liked a comment about video VITAL RAW - World Champs DH 1 8/24/2022 1:02 PM

Not sure the opening clip is in good taste, hearing an athlete scream out like that in agony. We all like a crash, but that isn't entertainment.

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Liked a comment about video ANDORRA - Vital RAW 1 7/14/2022 2:44 PM

These videos are so good. We're so spoiled. Best WC coverage by far because it really feels like I'm watching trackside.

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Liked a comment about video ANDORRA - Vital RAW 1 7/14/2022 2:44 PM

is anyone else thankful that one of the oakley banner poles was weak enough to break so greg's head didn't snap off?

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Liked a comment about feature Vital's B Practice Podcast - Leogang World Cup Downhill 6/17/2022 10:41 AM
Akula

The company that run the timing infrastructure at World Cups is Chronorace. Hired by UCI and RBTV since 2014/15 to provide accurate timing with 20 + splits on track, something Tissot apparently said they couldn't do.

The timing infrastructure for timed training, qualis and racing is the same. It's live. The RBTV feed on race days is delayed by anywhere from 30 secs to 1 minute to help facilitate live graphic construction for the TV show using the timing infrastructure.

The live timing you see on the UCI site is made using the start-wand as primary start timer, the riders start start time is a seldom/never used "backup".

The splits are timed with the transponders as you correctly point out. Using a hard wire system, with wires under the ground that the rider rides over, these are wired to a timing box which is hard wired & radio transmitted to the central timing system. There is also a person standing at each split with a manual button for back-up. This back up is seldom used if at all. As we have seen at races with bad weather sometimes splits do not work at all.

As you rightly point out the start wand and finish line photocell (there's also hardwired transponder timing at the line too) are as accurate as we can get, not perfect, but accurate to hundredths, maybe thousands of seconds.

The split timing system has a "range" as you point out and as far as I know is accurate to 0.05-0.2 seconds. If you time on-site during timed training or qualis or review race footage after using good video software you will find that the splits are accurate to 0.05-0.1 the majority of the time. Enough to draw solid performance conclusions from.

The RBTV virtual straight and other timing graphics are made using hard wired, but only radio transmitted wire/transponder timing. These are in theory as accurate as the split timing system. So over a 35-45 sec sector they are accurate enough to make good conclusion from. Issues with how these times are presented on RBTV live feed are to do with the creation of the graphics not the timing itself.

There are usually between 25-30 "timing splits" embedded into the ground by Chronorace on a World Cup race track.

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Liked a comment about news blog Discovery / Warner Bros / Eurosport Talking About Covering the World Cup 2023-2030 6/14/2022 4:46 PM
sspomer

9 min mark "we see mountain biking as a huge untapped potential, especially in key markets like USA and europe." = we're gonna try to cash in, realize it's too expensive, ROI is low, shareholders don't like it then bounce before our contract is up.

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Liked a comment about news blog Discovery / Warner Bros / Eurosport Talking About Covering the World Cup 2023-2030 6/14/2022 4:44 PM
smelly

This is the most ominous part of all. How are people who didn’t know there were factory teams going to”bring it to the next level”? This is like when someone tell you they just got a really nice mountain bike at Dick’s and we should go ride sometime.
By the way, whats next level mean, anyway? If it doesn’t bring more income to the racers, more track coverage, and no more ads than RB coverage had, it’s going in the wrong direction. Gnarlier courses are not part of it - I think we’re already at a point where some course toe line of whats safely feasible at race pace.

Maybe by 2025 we’ll see Red Bull start its own series. I’d be stoked to pay $50-100/ a year for really high quality race coverage of a 8-10 race series with Warner, Eliot Jackson, Claudio, and Tracy Hannah, and Ben Cathro.

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Liked a comment about news blog Discovery / Warner Bros / Eurosport Talking About Covering the World Cup 2023-2030 6/14/2022 4:42 PM
TEAMROBOT

The biggest difference between Red Bull and Discovery is that Red Bull didn't need to make money on broadcasting. Like their athlete sponsorships and events, Red Bull TV was a marketing exercise to promote drink sales. Advertising, in and of itself, is typically money-losing. Discovery's revenue stream, by contrast, is the actual video content. Not saying Red Bull TV didn't have it's own revenue source through ads, but even with the ad revenue, I'd bet my bottom dollar that Red Bull's world cup coverage still "lost money" and was heavily subsidized by drink sales.

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Liked a comment about news blog Discovery / Warner Bros / Eurosport Talking About Covering the World Cup 2023-2030 6/14/2022 4:33 PM
sspomer

are people bummed about the ads on a red bull broadcast? i can't say i've ever noticed them in a way that detracted from the watching experience.

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Liked a comment about news blog RESULTS - QUALIFYING, Fort William World Cup Downhill - Some Big Names Miss the Cut 5/21/2022 9:50 PM
jeff.brines

Wow. Wild. This is when I REALLY miss Sven's insights via the interviews & the slideshow.

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Liked a comment about news blog RESULTS - Qualifying, Leogang World Cup Downhill 6/11/2021 1:29 PM
MiSo11

Well, looks like Brook is back. He has to be so stoked to quali in the top 15 after his injury. hell ya bulldog!

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Liked a comment about member blog Think Frame Protection Kits are Overpriced? Ride Wrap Throws Down the Challenge 10/19/2020 11:00 AM
MateoPateo

Haha why always the hostility even within this topic.? Also, you're wrong. Think of it as an investment, these kits made to fit your specific model and size(matte or gloss finish), keep your frame in near perfect condition for when you want to SELL IT. It also looks good because it has no adhesive, You just peel it off and you can sell a new looking frame for a much better price than you normally would. If your spending lots of money on a bike, this is like a one time insurance that actually works.

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