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Pininator

No doubt!

It's crazy how the two main contenders both had a DQ and flat-tire end runs, but somehow managed to finish at the top of the field. It makes you wonder just how far ahead both would have been of the field without all the glitches they had throughout the season!

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Liked a comment about feature Nico Vouilloz and Fabien Barel Discuss 29ers in DH 5/2/2017 7:40 PM
jeff.brines

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Liked a comment about feature Nico Vouilloz and Fabien Barel Discuss 29ers in DH 5/2/2017 7:39 PM
jeff.brines

@Oz - go on as to why this doesn't feel right? Curious - have you ridden a long travel 29" trail bike? Is there something you are hung up on that doesn't feel right - like somehow the big wheels aren't somehow as cool? Like they probably suck in the air and you can't get sideways and "have fun with them"?

I used to share this mentality until last season. I was faster, had more fun, and owe a little of this to my switch to 29" wheels in a longerish trail application.

In the end, we are arguing about 1.7". I'd suggest we backup and reconsider all the other changes that occurred over the last 20 years in the sport that were maybe bigger that nobody balked at. They have happened, but maybe a bit more quietly. (suspension development being the big one)

Food for thought.

(PS, RAD comments by all! Only way this could be better is if we were all at a bar screaming at each other with beers...ha)

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Liked a comment about feature Nico Vouilloz and Fabien Barel Discuss 29ers in DH 5/2/2017 7:38 PM
jeff.brines

Do you think certain riders get an advantage because they are taller? I'd argue there are just as many advantages as disadvantages. I'd also argue "welcome to sports" where certain body types have advantages over others. Tall guys do well in the NBA. Light guys do well in horse racing and road cycling. Sporting events, in general, aren't fair. Hell, life isn't fair.

But here is the thing, one of the awesome parts about DH is I'm not sure one body type is better than another. Guys of all heights have won. And even when I think I have it figured out (no small guy will win at Ft Bill for instance), I'm proven wrong (Troy).

Greg is finally riding a bike that fits him. And those wheels match on a proportional basis.

Another point nobody is making here. If XC is best on 29". And DH is all of a sudden best on 29". Why are all the top guys in Enduro not on 29"? I get there are 29" wheeled bikes near the top but Richie has the choice (Yeti makes top notch 27.5 and 29" steeds), and sticks with 27.5", doesn't that say its a "different stroke for different folks" type of thing? A bike fit thing? A comfort thing?

To those that think this is going to cause all sorts of extra expense I again challenge you to reconsider. Tires, wheels, etc - have in some capacity existed for years. Making the frame work could cost some money but I'm not sure its going to be as ungodly expensive or as disruptive to "the industry's health" as everyone thinks to produce something with slightly bigger wheels. Also, don't forget, maybe a company will sell more bikes because they are able to offer something to the customer that attracts them to said item. Maybe a guy (like me) who wasn't going to buy a DH bike does, because he's intrigued and wants to check it out again. This is good! We aren't talking about essential items in the first place after all... Darwinism. Capitalism. Giving the people what they want. All good things.

Rants aside, one thing is for certain, its given us an exciting narrative to follow this year.

I'm personally psyched!

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Liked a comment about feature Nico Vouilloz and Fabien Barel Discuss 29ers in DH 5/2/2017 7:37 PM
jeff.brines

Wow. I'm pretty shocked.

I figured both Nico and Fabien would love the bigger wheel as they both seemed to do whatever was needed technologically to eek out more speed.

Larger riders have disadvantages in places, advantages in other places. Bigger wheels will be the same way.

Limiting wheel size is like limiting bike fit, skewing things to benefit a certain type/size of rider.

As far as it being a bummer for the industry, cmon boys! Its not like the wheels, tires, and 29" trail bikes weren't already in production this year. To add, I could see a few smart companies *maybe* finding a way to build a 29 and 27.5" bike from very similar molds (EG, same rear end, same front end, different links).

Why should some riders have their bike fit them better than others?

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Liked a comment about feature Nico Vouilloz and Fabien Barel Discuss 29ers in DH 5/2/2017 7:34 PM
ThomDawson

That's the worst point that keeps cropping up. The exact same thing happens whenever a new innovation or improvement hits the circuit - carbon frames and components, somebody develops a glue-like tyre compound, somebody develops a super controlled damper (that smooths out terrain just like a 29er wheel btw). Etc etc, eventually everyone develops (copies) their own carbon frame, their own tyre, their own dampers and everyone's back on the same page...until the next thing comes along. It's precisely how competition drives innovation.
Besides that your (and Brendan's and Loic's) argument assumes that a 29er wheel will be faster and we simply do not know that it will in competition. Getting the right combination of wheelsize and bike set up for a given rider on a given track is what's fastest, we don't know that will always be a 29er for every track and every rider.
Good Santa Cruz. Would you rather nobody tried because "29ers are..."

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Liked a comment about feature Nico Vouilloz and Fabien Barel Discuss 29ers in DH 5/2/2017 7:33 PM
ThomDawson

I'm 5'6" and never had an issue riding a 29er. I don't k ow why everyone assumes that small riders can't ride them or even why tall people think they fit them better than a shorter rider.

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Liked a comment about feature Nico Vouilloz and Fabien Barel Discuss 29ers in DH 5/2/2017 7:33 PM
ThomDawson

I don't think it's as big an issue as people make out. I never got buzzed but I only had 150mm travel, Luca said he got buzzed but didn't seem to give two shits about it, same as getting muddy - just a fact of riding a bike

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Liked a comment about news blog FINAL RESULTS: 2017 Lourdes World Cup Downhill 4/30/2017 5:43 PM
dirtworks911

Should course officials allow a race to begin if they know bad weather is bound to hit in the middle of it? I want to know everyone's thoughts.

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Liked a comment about news blog FINAL RESULTS: 2017 Lourdes World Cup Downhill 4/30/2017 5:42 PM
boaz

it sucks when weather decides the race. i find it hard to believe given the huge cost to the teams and sponsors of putting on this event it's better to run the main or allow it to finish in insane weather. run it earlier if weather is looking crazy or push it back a few hours. it's not like the stream is live anyway. with seven races there aren't any to waste.

i love watching dh. i think racing is rad. i even own a carbon dh bike. i seriously hate this outcome and how everyone is like 'well it's racing'. it's the world cup!! there need to be contingencies for weather interfering in the race. everybody races dry or everyone races wet, it can't be split. it invalidates the result and weakens the sport

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