Added a comment about press release Introducing The RUNT by Diaz Suspension Design 3/8/2019 10:03 AM

No the Runt has two air chambers that are never in communication with each other. This is what allows it to be so adjustable.

Was it the DRCV shock that blew or was it the Full Floater that blew???
What came first ? We know the full floater link made for a very unsupportive wallowy midstroke and they are finally going away from it.

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Added a comment about press release Introducing The RUNT by Diaz Suspension Design 3/6/2019 11:33 AM

Airwreck, I believe I answered your question below. Yes It turns out smaller riders are much more sensitive compression damping stiction and higher initial pressures. We have actually changed tunes and reduced compression damping after working with smaller riders and found that the larger riders benefited from it just as much. This can be done with the runt because it has enough mid stroke support to keep your fork riding high in the travel with out being harsh.

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Liked a comment on the item Introducing The RUNT by Diaz Suspension Design 3/6/2019 11:27 AM

Should I consider this for my kid who is 60lbs and is on a 140 Yari?

Added a comment about press release Introducing The RUNT by Diaz Suspension Design 3/6/2019 11:26 AM

It actually is more beneficial to smaller riders for the reason you just stated.

The Runt works on the concept of running lower air pressure and less compression damping. Resulting in a more supple fork.

The Mid stroke keeps it from feeling mushy when running lower pressure/less compression damping. Its a smooth transition and not stiff at all when starting with lower pressure.

The lower pressure does make it easier to get into the last third of the travel and its a smooth ramp to bottom out .

We dont like to see all the travel used regularly because what happens when you make a mistake come up short , over shoot a landing maybe land in a hole or on a rock? Typically we like to see about 25mm left over even after large jumps or drops on to smooth transition.

We set customers up this way and have been doing so for years. A few of them dont believe they will ever use full travel. However they always come back with story of almost having a really bad crash because of a mistake which eventually happens to every one. I dont care how good you are.

It usually goes something like ...... "I was riding along and I over shot a jump or came up short and thought I was done !!! But I rode away from it and sure enough I bottomed out the fork and was happy I had a little travel on reserve"

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Added a comment about press release Introducing The RUNT by Diaz Suspension Design 3/5/2019 3:42 PM

Yes we do. Your runt will ship with shims to get the appropriate rebound tune for your weight. Our instructions are posted on line to do so. We recommend running the compression all the way open. The runt has enough mid stroke support to keep your fork from diving. We don't need to rely on compression damping to do so, resulting in a more supple ride. If desired we can re-valve the upper base/compression valving to be even more supple on the charger 2( in house only).

Unfortunately, Rock Shox does not support the upper half of the charger 2 damper. They don't have replacement parts or directions for it. If something is done incorrectly it could mean having to purchase a whole new damper.

For that reason we only do compression valving in house. Rebound is easy to do If you are not equipped to adjust the rebound valving any good suspension /bike shop should be able to.

You can run the damper stock. We are just trying to make it as easy as possible for our customers to have the best riding fork possible.

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Added a comment about press release Introducing The RUNT by Diaz Suspension Design 3/5/2019 1:52 PM

You have it backwards. The longer the travel the shorter the runt . The shafts get longer when travel is increased so we have to make room for the longer shaft at bottom out. The 170 runt uses a 180 body with a stepped piston. The 160 runt is a longer body than the 180/170. To switch back and forth you would need two runts to keep the spring rates consistent.

You may want to try the 160 first. You might be surprised the runt gives you a much better quality of travel meaning it will ride higher and have good bottoming resistance while being supple initially. The better quality of travel will make it feel like it has more travel.

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Added a comment about press release Introducing The RUNT by Diaz Suspension Design 2/6/2019 11:50 AM

No, I have not seen anything published from PUSH or Vorsprung taking into account their air bump stop or hydraulic bottoming control valve. Our answer to this is simply adjusting the pressure in the High air chamber to adjust bottoming resistance. Most of our riders run what we recommend. The 2:1 ratio of air pressure gives you the most linear spring rate. For example: 50psi low, 100psi high

Some non-aggressive riders may run less in the High chamber so they can achieve full travel more often. Example: 50psi low, 80psi high

If needed you can run more pressure in the High chamber to make it progressive. Example: 50psi low, 100psi high

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Liked a comment on the item Introducing The RUNT by Diaz Suspension Design 2/5/2019 4:47 PM

I am around 160lb riding weight and I run it anywhere from 62 to 68 psi depending on what terrain I am on.

Liked a comment on the item Introducing The RUNT by Diaz Suspension Design 2/5/2019 4:46 PM

I also have a current Lyrik with Charger 2 and Debonair. My ACS-3 swapped Lyrik has a Charger 2 as well. Those two forks currently feel very similar. The main difference is the ability to fine tune how the fork ramps up on the ACS-3 Lyrik. Based on my experience with the 36/Runt, I...more

Liked a comment on the item Introducing The RUNT by Diaz Suspension Design 2/5/2019 4:46 PM

Very helpful. Thank you!! I find that my lyrik charger 2/Debonair (RCT3 btw) is very supple off the top. Where I am not super thrilled with it is the midstroke in fast, steep chunk. I have added a bit of air for support, but I am looking towards a solution like this (or maybe coil)...more

Added a comment about press release Introducing The RUNT by Diaz Suspension Design 2/5/2019 4:44 PM

The RUNT changes the slope of the spring rate on the graph. The most linear setup is running a 2:1 ratio of high pressure to low pressure. It will give you that linear slope whatever pressure you run. For example, our bigger customers (~250 lbs) are running about 85psi in the low chamber and 170psi in the high, while our lighter customers are running 45 low, 90 high.

At bottom-out, the graph shows close to the equivalent of three tokens while the mid-stroke support is close to five. (RockShox has an 8mm hex in the middle of the tokens, which leaves unfilled volume and is how the RUNT can achieve five token mid-stroke in a four token max scenario.)

Why is 30% with no tokens too progressive? This setup makes for a very unsupportive beginning and mid-stroke and will result in a lot of front end diving when cornering braking and descending on steep trails.

In your case, I wouldn't recommend dropping air pressure with a RUNT. I would keep it the same and you would benefit from the increased support, making your bike handle much better.

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Liked a comment on the item Introducing The RUNT by Diaz Suspension Design 2/5/2019 2:24 PM

+1 Request. Nothing wrong with any DVO fork I've owned. I am surprised no one else has jumped on board with an adjustable negative spring like DVO has been making since day 1.

Liked a comment on the item Introducing The RUNT by Diaz Suspension Design 2/5/2019 2:24 PM

Yes my diamond has been great. Really like the adjustability of OTT. I think current diamonds offer volume spacers like rs tokens. This RUNT seems like it’d be the ott equivalent of an rs token. Could offer the ultimate in linear/coil like travel if the beginning, mid and end stroke...more

Added a comment about press release Introducing The RUNT by Diaz Suspension Design 2/5/2019 2:16 PM

They are already Debonair compatible.

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Added a comment about press release Introducing The RUNT by Diaz Suspension Design 2/5/2019 9:16 AM

We have not had many requests for DVO. I believe you're the first. We have, however, had lots of requests for a FOX 34 version so that will be added to the next run .

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Added a comment about press release Introducing The RUNT by Diaz Suspension Design 2/5/2019 9:13 AM

Yes, we can ship to the UK right now. Just put your order in and we will send it out!

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Added a comment about press release Introducing The RUNT by Diaz Suspension Design 2/5/2019 9:12 AM

It's similar, just done in a slightly different way and applicable to non-Manitou forks.

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Added a comment about press release Introducing The RUNT by Diaz Suspension Design 2/5/2019 9:11 AM

I started working on the RUNT in 2012. I believe we were selling them locally in 2014-15. We were not ready to do a large scale release till now.

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gogzee left a comment 2/5/2019 12:59 AM

Will this be available in the UK?