Thanks, that's just the sort of comparison I was looking for. My 7iDP rub seems to happen when I don't have the sock pulled up as high as possible so that they stay tight. If it slips, then I get rub around the edges of the insert. The straps on the Trigger might help with that, and their sock doesn't extend as far up and down, so they may actually feel cooler to me.

Your summers probably feel worse, due to humidity.

Thanks for the review, I was eyeing these as my next pair. How do they compare against the 7iDP Sam Hills, in terms of heat, coverage (side and upper shin), and general comfort?

I'm on my second pair of Sam Hills, and most of the time they fit great, but occasionally I have a day where they rub raw spots on the sides/top/bottom of my knee. The first pair had the "sock" tear in a crash, but 7iDP gave me a nice crash replacement discount. They're pretty toasty in California summer too.

Thanks, that's helpful. I'll pull my Airflexes on later and measure down ~2" and see where that falls. I was referring to the top of the knobby part of the shin bone, which is 1" below my kneecap when my knee is bent 90 degrees. Looking at again, if I can get some coverage 5-6" from the bottom of the knee cap, I'll be much better off than I am now.

I don't want to end up with a full knee/shin pad like the POC VPD Long or the Alpinestars Paragon because I already have that amount of coverage in Race Face Flanks, which are heavy and hot.