Ronnie Renner's Stealth Electric DH Bike 53

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  • dirk.diggsbabs

    2/13/2013 11:59 AM

    Love my Bomber #143. Laced a higher torque 5404 hub motor to 19x1.4 motorcycle rim and now I run a bigwheel mini front tire on the rear. It rips. What Phil Paulas said is so true. Living in the city, its so nice just to get on the bomber and ride straight from the house. For this, Stealth Bikes are the ticket.

  • Mtblover

    2/13/2013 9:46 AM

    http://www.stealthelectricbikesusa.com/videos.html Looks like any air problems are rider related these boys are going big in these videos.
  • cofattire

    2/13/2013 10:35 AM

    Renner is a top Freestyle pro, it's not rider problems. Just like this video, those others show the rider's inability to hop the rear tire up even a little curb. Only way they could get air was with the ad of a feature. They are too heavy to ride like a mountain bike, but obviously excel at the same things motos do: built features, using the throttle and suspension to get over obstacles etc....

  • Mtblover

    2/13/2013 12:04 PM

    Renner is a top Multiple discipline athlete involving bikes period. He is a pro motocross rider sure, however also a pro bicycle rider amongst about ten other disciplines involving bikes at the highest level. I would rather get his opinion backed by 30 years of experience then just about anybody out there who rides bikes. Everyone would get this bike like every bike has differences and they need to looked at to adapt your style. So you cant bunny hop it, but you can power into it. That's like saying because of those forks buddy you cant do a wheelie..

  • phil.paulas

    2/13/2013 8:32 AM

    Ronnie says it right!!! I live just outside of Chicago and love my Bomber. I'm having a great time ripping through trails at 6-7am on weekends, no sound means I'm not bothering anyone. If you live near a big city like I do, then a Bomber or Fighter is the ticket. If you are a BEAVERBIKER and live near perfect dirtbike trails, love maintaining and prepping your 450... then right next door are perfect mountain bike trails, then this may not be for you.

    Please try to find someone who will let you take a ride before making any judgements. The weight, balance and power blend together like nothing you have even driven.

    Anyone around Chicago pls email me at: ppaulas@netzero.com. I'll hook you up for a cruise!

  • Evans

    2/13/2013 1:40 AM

    Love to try it. Would be sweet to brap around camping instead of a Moto pissing off people near by haha

  • RenneR

    2/12/2013 10:41 PM

    you guys would be surprised. The bomber is its own animal. don't get your panties in a wad over these bikes destroying your trail, or making things harder. I am a mountianbike rider too and actually take all of these things into consideration. The tires on my Stealth actually do less damage than a mtb knobby. I am not really sweating mtb trails, I'm blazing my own on this bike and basically turning flat lands into downhills (theres a time and a place). I'd say the main thing I'm guilty of is hauling wayyyy to much ass. The Stealth Bomber is just an AWESOME piece of equipment in my garage that i rank as one of my favorites. I could go on and on, because I get bummed that people want to dog on it... But like they say, don't knock it till you try it....What I can't figure out is, if its not hurting anything (tearing up the ground) and not making any noise, then why all of the hatin'? I'm not trying to race the thing or anything.. Just having a good time - RR

  • cofattire

    2/13/2013 8:45 AM

    Many mountain bikers are dogging on it because it's being marketed as an Electric DH bike implying it can be used as a mountain bike.Have you ever dealt with multi use trail issues before as a mountain biker? We've had many issues here in Colorado just from shuttling traditional DH bikes. The vast majority of trails we ride are designated as non motorized multi use trails. Of course many mountain bikers are going to be concerned with the idea of a motorbike with pedaling abilities threatening the continued use of some trails. To clear things up, market it as an Ebike to be used as a light Moto on trails where motorized vehicles are not specifically prohibited, and I can't imagine there would be any negativity from the MTB community.

  • CombatMutt

    2/13/2013 8:50 AM

    It's not the mountainbike community that is the issue.

  • Scott_Townes

    2/13/2013 9:20 AM

    CombatMutt- Well actually right now it is the mountain bike community that's the only issue. I understand people's fears about it causing more trail use issues but let's come back to the planet Earth for a minute... Not one person posting negative towards the bomber has yet to provide one case of an electric-assisted DH bike causing issues for trail access for mtbers. I think people are just overreacting very poorly to this because until issues are brought up, they're not issues... which I think you can all agree to. Stop worrying for the other trail users.

    If it does bring trail use issues, do you really think the powers at be will not be able to tell the difference between electric assisted and normal bikes? They'd just ban the electric ones and leave it as it's always been...

    I feel like I have to add that I wouldn't be down with these on mtb-specific trails just because it looks like it could tear em up good with an irresponsible owner... which there will def. be at least one.

  • David_Lytton

    2/13/2013 9:57 AM

    You are right it hasnt caused problems YET! COfattire is right the trails around here (CO) are multi use trails that do not allow any motorized vehicles. I have no issue with the electric motorcycle in of itself. It actually looks like alot of fun. Like others have said its the way its being marketed as a electric DH bike. If these caught on and were being used on multi use trails they would risk the hard won rights that the mountain bike community has spent years on. We already have issues with people shuttling trails that are heavy hiked on specifically the Apex Trail up in Golden. There have been big battles going back a decade to get mountain bikes banned from that trail because people were running DH bikes on it at high speeds and running hikers off the trail. You add the ability to go fast UP the trail too and you have a disaster waiting to happen.

  • Mtblover

    2/13/2013 9:32 AM

    I dont think if you watch the video they are marketing this as a DH bike. Watch the video" I come from motor cross background and I wanna go moto.. " Where do you see differently?

    I see they are inline with your views.

  • cofattire

    2/13/2013 10:00 AM

    The title of the Video is Electric DH bike, but you're right in that the video is more aimed at the Moto crowd. Maybe I've fallen for Vital's trolling title? There's ambiguity over these bikes because they have pedals, other user groups will be confused. No one can site specific negative examples right now because they are so rare, but it's not hard to predict issues arising in some areas like Colorado for example if they become popular. Other areas may not have the same dynamics so it's a non issue.

  • Mtblover

    2/13/2013 10:11 AM

    Yeah I hear ya, but I am not sold on the idea they tear up trails. They have 24x 3 tires actually less contact on the ground then your 29r or 26r. They have more top end mtb parts then anything else. 1 part having a e motor seems to confuse people... I just want to ride one. They look super fun. We should meet up and ride some safe spots together that would not ruffle your flowers.

  • Disco Stu

    2/13/2013 1:36 PM

    I don't know if you know, but there are a lot of people outside Colorado who don't have the same issues as you guys do. Get a Bomber, move to NZ, live happily ever after.

  • CombatMutt

    2/12/2013 7:21 PM

    Some of you are missing the point about this bike. It does NOT matter what we classify it as. It doesn't matter if we decide that its a motorcycle, motorbike, or bicycle. It doesn't matter if it's a fun ride or not. It. Does. Not. Matter. The only thing that matters is how those who control the trails view it. And based on my experience, mountain bikers are on the losing ends of these sorts of things.

  • beaverbiker

    2/12/2013 9:40 AM

    I'd much rather ride the mtb or my 450. Not some lame halfbreed

  • quietrush

    2/12/2013 2:41 PM

    Good for you. But I'd go for one of these anyday, have had my time on motos, not going back now.

  • beaverbiker

    2/12/2013 2:54 PM

    Of course you do...you sell them. Where I live we have super awesome mtb trails and super awesome moto trails. I wouldn't want to ride this thing on either. That bike wouldn't make it up 1% of the hill climbs I see on my 450 and it's waaaaay overkill for pretty much every mtb trail I've ever been on.

  • Mtblover

    2/12/2013 3:07 PM

    What about areas where shuttles are not? You seem to be a hater without trying one. I think this exposes so much more terrain for us its ridiculous. Jumping to a motorbike in comparison is overkill. You need to think about use and then try one. No one will even know your there its so quiet.

    This will open opportunities for all bikers in my opinion. Simply stating its not a mtn bike and it wont opportunities for bikers is ridiculous. How many bikes do we all have? More then one? I'm sure they are all different as well. This is another great bike to have in the line up.

  • cofattire

    2/12/2013 5:02 PM

    This is one of those things that's easy to comment on without having tired it. It weighs 116lbs, it's going to handle very differently than any mountain bike at that weight. Notice in the video the rider couldn't hop up the curb because the bike's so heavy. DH agility aside, at 116lbs, is pedaling even an option? Don't kid yourself, this isn't a mountain bike, it's a low powered motorcycle with moped pedaling abilities. If it burned gas there would be no ambiguity. Just because it has an electric motor doesn't change the fact that it's a motor. If a machine like this offers the riding experience you want, have at it, but don't be fooled into thinking this is a mountain bike that will open tons of new opportunities for you. It is a quite motorbike that will open new opportunities for moto guys.

  • quietrush

    2/12/2013 3:25 PM

    That's true. But I was also a rider before I decided to back them as a riding concept, coming from a background of enduro bikes and racing MTB at a high level. I keep a running watch on what owners say, log it at http://store.quietrush.com.au/what-riders-say.html so will let their unbiased views tell their own story. There are a whole bunch of issues associated with moto riding that make it very hard to retain trail access anywhere close to an urban centre. We've seen harrowing stories of neck high wiretraps locally that can take out a mtb rider just as effectively as they can a moto rider. Sounds like you're in a good spot to have great trails for both mtb and moto. Not everyone is as lucky.

  • FredLikesTrikes

    2/12/2013 8:52 AM

    Stoooopid.

  • steely

    2/12/2013 2:57 AM

    at £10k i do not see these becoming common place anytime soon, bicycles with electric motors have been about for decades now and they haven't been banned yet. so every one calm the fuck down. and just think about it as a bike with an engine and weather or not you should save your penny's for one.

  • Disco Stu

    2/12/2013 12:12 AM

    To all those naysayers who haven't ridden one.

    A mate of mine brought his Stealth Bomber over from Australia about a year ago and I just happened to be in the right place at the right time. He let me ride the bike more than him and what a f*#%ing blast. We took to our local XC trails and if you can remember the scene from Starwars where the Stormtroopers were hammering through the bush on their Speeder Bikes, well that was me. Walkers didn't care because I wasn't making any noise and the torquey motor didn't slide any more than I would if I was braking hard (maybe out of control) into a corner.

    All we could talk about each night was how cool the bike was to ride and by the time my friend went back to Oz wtih his bike, I had ordered mine.... Now I'm the baddest Stormtrooper in town.

    Ride one before you knock it.

  • iceman2058

    2/11/2013 10:57 PM

    Careful out there kids. (includes bonus shoe-removing crash footage):

  • TSage

    2/11/2013 10:12 PM

    The 1%

  • Yuroshek

    2/11/2013 9:16 PM

    Just think of all the KOM's you can finally get now!

  • xc2dh99

    2/11/2013 8:59 PM

    That's pretty cool.

  • Mtblover

    2/11/2013 8:57 PM

    This thing is ultra cool. Every bike is built with different intentions. This by design increases how far things have gone. The bike is hand made and custom built. They extend the distance I can travel. I can pedal it. Has 9 speed suntour transmission. More runs up and down when shuttle riding. Right on....Plus all the tires Etc are mtb parts. This is a new beginning.

  • mccarver

    2/11/2013 8:22 PM

    a motorcycle by definition has a motor, yes; but also by definition, a motorcycle does not have pedals. this has pedals. this does not count as a motorcycle.

  • CombatMutt

    2/11/2013 8:35 PM

    That's pretty weak.

  • cofattire

    2/11/2013 8:18 PM

    "It's legal, you're not ticking people off, you can ride it anywhere" He's obviously ignorant of the multi use trail drama the MTB community deals with.

  • tnkasper

    2/11/2013 7:55 PM

    Motor + cycle = motorcycle The torq this thing puts out is far greater than what mtb trails are built for. It'll do exactly what motor cycles do which is create ruts and tear up the trails. i'm sure it's a blast, but it's an electric motorcycle and belongs on the moto trails.

  • quietrush

    2/12/2013 2:39 PM

    I've ridden both dirtbikes (large and small) and raced MTB at a high level, ridden all kinds of trails in between. I beg to differ. I also ride a Stealth Fighter (the lighter, 3kW model) so have some insight into how they actually ride on singletrack. There's no way they do the trail damage a dirtbike does. There's actually a useful comparison article that assesses trail damage risk potential at http://forums.stealthelectricbikesusa.com/forums/showthread.php?2506-How-does-my-Stealth-Bike-impact-my-favorite-trails&p=6839#post6839

    What they do is engineer out two of the key problems of a dirtbike - noise and trail impact - whilst getting the rider much more active and enjoying a fitness benefit they'd otherwise miss out on by riding a moto. The power delivery is instantaneous torque without power pulses of a fuel driven motor. In my riding, I've found that they're actually slower on a bit of tight singletrack than a good rider on an unpowered bike, but they turn climbs into a key advantage, helping me hold a higher average speed on a climb. They do represent a disruptive innovation that naturally gets us all thinking about where they can be best used, but to lump them straight into moto class and moto trails misses the point.

    In sensitised multi-use trail areas, the key issue is going to be about riding respectfully around other trail users, not blasting past them at speed and creating a hazard, which I've seen plenty of unpowered riders do, as a rider and a walker. It's the passing speed that really gets to people..but I'm sure there will also be trail users who just want it kept to themselves, unwilling to share with anyone outside their own group (horse/moto/walker). The obligation to ride respectfully of other trail users is a universal one for riders..

  • quietrush

    2/12/2013 2:42 PM

    What they do is engineer out two of the key problems of a dirtbike - noise and trail impact - whilst getting the rider much more active and enjoying a fitness benefit they'd otherwise miss out on by riding a moto. The power delivery is instantaneous torque without power pulses of a fuel driven motor. In my riding, I've found that they're actually slower on a bit of tight singletrack than a good rider on an unpowered bike, but they turn climbs into a key advantage, helping me hold a higher average speed on a climb. They do represent a disruptive innovation that naturally gets us all thinking about where they can be best used, but to lump them straight into moto class and moto trails misses the point.

  • quietrush

    2/12/2013 2:42 PM

    In sensitised multi-use trail areas, the key issue is going to be about riding respectfully around other trail users, not blasting past them at speed and creating a hazard, which I've seen plenty of unpowered riders do, as a rider and a walker. It's the passing speed that really gets to people..but I'm sure there will also be trail users who just want it kept to themselves, unwilling to share with anyone outside their own group (horse/moto/walker). The obligation to ride respectfully of other trail users is a universal one for riders..

  • tnkasper

    2/12/2013 3:46 PM

    Sorry, but seeing as how you sell them, your words don't carry any weight. It has to come from other 3rd parties who tested them and reviewed them. Get MTBR or MTB Action and the like to do thorough reviews and then I'll start listening.

  • konakid911

    2/12/2013 6:17 PM

    I agree that this is an electric motorcycle. As a motocross racer and a mountain biker I can say that I enjoy the two sports being separate. I mtb because I love it and it also teaches me to carry momentum, thats a main benefit. The argument that this bike gives you the "fitness benifit they'd otherwise miss out on by riding a moto" tells me that you have little to no real experience on a moto track or trail. Motocross is one of the most physically demanding sports in the world, mtb is a warm up comparied to a full out motocross race. I also agree with tnkasper's argument that that the torque produced by this bike will create ruts and excessive trail erosion. Electric motors are known to make tremendous torque. In a time when mtb trails are going extinct from "trail erosion" caused by knobbies and pedals, the last thing we need is a torqued up electric bike tearing up trails even more. I respect the idea, but i would not purchase it and I can not see it helping the sport at this time.

  • quietrush

    2/12/2013 7:04 PM

    Interesting to hear your views, thanks. I'm not disputing that motocross is an intense workout. That's already an established fact (see http://www.racerxvt.com/virtual_trainer/Dr_A_heart_rate.html). I would dispute that the average trailrider on a dirtbike reaches that level of heartate intensity, noting the short duration of a MX heat compared to several hours in the saddle on a trailbike ride (which I've also done, regularly, on open trails and closed circuits). What I'm interested in is the physical activity levels of the local population in my area, where 70% of men fit into the obese category, and getting them active. If that means a modal switch from dirtbike to eBike, perhaps as a transition strategy to mtb, so be it. Both views are valid. I've ridden 24hr MTB events, ridden a wide range of motos (too long to list here) and still ride mtb as often as I can. I've also done my own work into investigating the exercise intensity of using an eBike so I had some evidence based data. Each of these kinds of rides (mtb, moto, eBike) have their place, it's just that a good offroad eBike is late to that mix..

  • cofattire

    2/11/2013 7:35 PM

    DH bike?It's an off road Moped. Motoped if you will.

  • Mtblover

    4/9/2013 3:37 PM

    I just got my bike! How freakin cool. The Bomber is so intense. Thanks Stealth for an awesome ride. My buddies all have bikes on order as well. The hardest part is the wait to have your bike made. MTB Lover

  • RISDONCREATIVE

    2/11/2013 7:02 PM

    f'n stupid, learn how to pedal or shuttle
    i agree with the CombatMutt