From the photographer, "Check this out. Yesterday I was downhilling at the Keystone bike park in Colorado and a big Honda bus pulled in and started setting up. A few hours later a Tomac truck pulled in. The Honda guys unloaded one of the Honda DH bikes."
It could be coincidence but I honestly did see a Honda bus like this a few days ago driving south on I-15 through SLC. I figured it was for the road race guys leaving Miller Motorsports Park....but who knows....that one-off DH bike could have been inside!
Oh, one thing that differs here from the photos i found while googling is the seat assembly (the piece holding the post) or how to say it. Here it looks like it's aluminium, while in some pics it was carbon.
FYI, what you see is what you get. all the info the photographer gave was put up. the metadata in the photo file says the photos were taken yesterday. if someone is going to try to fool us all and go through the trouble of changing the metadata, then we've been fooled, but at least get to look at a rad bike.
USD forks NEED to be overkill to get the same stiffness this my point really in that you are over-engineering the structure to obtain a presumably identical result.
The average factory DH bike is now on a similar weight level to a heavy XC bike ,over-engineering the fork structure is going backwards ..IMHO.
USD forks NEED to be overkill to get the same stiffness. There are benefits, no doubt, but IMO that bridge over the tyre, that can only be put there on a normal MTB fork, helps heaps in terms of stiffness.
The original Dorados, made around 2003, were if i recall famously flexy But thon disregard them all at once, they can be made properly. But it takes too many compromises. The BOS DH fork was considered to be an USD fork at first, but they decided against it just because of the amount of compromises needed.
I'm not familiar with Dorados. Personally I think USDs are overkill on MTB and the weight is in the wrong place, I would rather have the sliders nearer to the spindles. I'm sure there are engineers who know better than me though.
You would think that Showa with their history would be trying to develop some a bit more technologically advanced , in a similar vein to a Lefty for DH or a SIMON type electronics package. Those USDs are probably a couple of pounds overweight compared to current fork tech.
This is not an old pic. I was there yesterday and saw it as well. I chatted with the people at the trailer for a while but they were tight lipped regarding any details.
Sounds like Honda is trying to sell the design to a manufacturer... let an established brand bring it to market. The Showa stuff sounds more likely though.
Bill_Weppner
8/5/2010 1:37 PM
It could be coincidence but I honestly did see a Honda bus like this a few days ago driving south on I-15 through SLC. I figured it was for the road race guys leaving Miller Motorsports Park....but who knows....that one-off DH bike could have been inside!
BeigeWolf
7/30/2010 10:02 AM
95% OF COMMENTS ABOUT THIS SOUND LIKE YOU DON'T KNOW YOUR ASS FROM A HOLE IN THE GROUND.
Primoz
7/29/2010 1:58 PM
http://world.honda.com/MTB/spec/image/top_2007.jpg
sspomer
7/29/2010 1:50 PM
this pinkbike photo is from 2005. looks very similar

who knows.
Primoz
7/29/2010 1:46 PM
Oh, one thing that differs here from the photos i found while googling is the seat assembly (the piece holding the post) or how to say it. Here it looks like it's aluminium, while in some pics it was carbon.
sspomer
7/29/2010 1:41 PM
FYI, what you see is what you get. all the info the photographer gave was put up. the metadata in the photo file says the photos were taken yesterday. if someone is going to try to fool us all and go through the trouble of changing the metadata, then we've been fooled, but at least get to look at a rad bike.
Adrian_Balls
7/29/2010 12:40 PM
USD forks NEED to be overkill to get the same stiffness this my point really in that you are over-engineering the structure to obtain a presumably identical result.
The average factory DH bike is now on a similar weight level to a heavy XC bike ,over-engineering the fork structure is going backwards ..IMHO.
Primoz
7/29/2010 12:32 PM
USD forks NEED to be overkill to get the same stiffness. There are benefits, no doubt, but IMO that bridge over the tyre, that can only be put there on a normal MTB fork, helps heaps in terms of stiffness.
But thon disregard them all at once, they can be made properly. But it takes too many compromises. The BOS DH fork was considered to be an USD fork at first, but they decided against it just because of the amount of compromises needed.
The original Dorados, made around 2003, were if i recall famously flexy
Adrian_Balls
7/29/2010 12:06 PM
I'm not familiar with Dorados. Personally I think USDs are overkill on MTB and the weight is in the wrong place, I would rather have the sliders nearer to the spindles. I'm sure there are engineers who know better than me though.
Primoz
7/29/2010 11:57 AM
And how much do they weigh? And why would an USD fork mean it's heavy? WHat about Dorados?
Adrian_Balls
7/29/2010 11:46 AM
You would think that Showa with their history would be trying to develop some a bit more technologically advanced , in a similar vein to a Lefty for DH or a SIMON type electronics package. Those USDs are probably a couple of pounds overweight compared to current fork tech.
cshewmake7
7/29/2010 11:29 AM
This is not an old pic. I was there yesterday and saw it as well. I chatted with the people at the trailer for a while but they were tight lipped regarding any details.
Surfwax
7/29/2010 10:24 AM
Sounds like Honda is trying to sell the design to a manufacturer... let an established brand bring it to market. The Showa stuff sounds more likely though.
Primoz
7/29/2010 9:28 AM
Wy 'Honda Racing' then?
xc4pot
7/29/2010 9:24 AM
they where in whistler last year with trek doing some testing of some sort,
I think its more the showa suspension that the honda bikes, that might be coming to market,
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