Sam Hill's new Demo

thebyker wrote: that picture looks like carbon

thebyker wrote: that picture looks like carbon

leopolo wrote: It's not carbon -> hydroformed aluminium

leopolo wrote: It's not carbon -> hydroformed aluminium

Dynamatt wrote: Where is our informative low down on the down low of this bike eh?

Dynamatt wrote: Where is our informative low down on the down low of this bike eh?

enrico650 wrote: I will give you some info: The production model will run a 142mm rear spacing with a one of a kind new rear hub, the spoke flanges are pushed towards the outside to provide a more trialgular spoke arraingment. Making a sttifer wheel than the current 150mm used by other brands.

enrico650 wrote: I will give you some info: The production model will run a 142mm rear spacing with a one of a kind new rear hub, the spoke flanges are pushed towards the outside to provide a more trialgular spoke arraingment. Making a sttifer wheel than the current 150mm used by other brands.

PossiblyMe wrote: That 142mm rear hub is such a good idea. I mean no one else so far has come up with such a sensible through bolt design. It'll make wheel changes way eaisier.

PossiblyMe wrote: That 142mm rear hub is such a good idea. I mean no one else so far has come up with such a sensible through bolt design. It'll make wheel changes way eaisier.

Primoz wrote: How can a 142 mm hub and wheelset be stiffer from a 150 mm one? Even if it's a proper 142 mm and not the standard 142 mm, which is just a 135 mm hub, extended by 3,5 mm on each side to sit on the frame's flanges, it would still be 8 mm narrower. Which would mean the hub's flanges could be set even wider appart on the 150 mm hub.

With a 142 mm hub you would still be limited with the width of the cassette. Which is probably why the 150 mm hubs don't use the full width of the body, moving the left flange a little more towards the right. That makes the spoke pattern a bit more symmetrical.

And no one else? Have you honestly never heard of Syntace X12? Cube uses it, Cannondale uses it, Trek uses it, etc. And mainly on 120 (2011 Fuel EX) , 140 (Cube Stereo for example) and 160 (Cube Fritzzz) mm travel bikes. Turner's RFX Prototype used to have a 142 mm proposed axle setup, don't know what the current prototype uses though.

Primoz wrote: How can a 142 mm hub and wheelset be stiffer from a 150 mm one? Even if it's a proper 142 mm and not the standard 142 mm, which is just a 135 mm hub, extended by 3,5 mm on each side to sit on the frame's flanges, it would still be 8 mm narrower. Which would mean the hub's flanges could be set even wider appart on the 150 mm hub.

With a 142 mm hub you would still be limited with the width of the cassette. Which is probably why the 150 mm hubs don't use the full width of the body, moving the left flange a little more towards the right. That makes the spoke pattern a bit more symmetrical.

And no one else? Have you honestly never heard of Syntace X12? Cube uses it, Cannondale uses it, Trek uses it, etc. And mainly on 120 (2011 Fuel EX) , 140 (Cube Stereo for example) and 160 (Cube Fritzzz) mm travel bikes. Turner's RFX Prototype used to have a 142 mm proposed axle setup, don't know what the current prototype uses though.

muchentuchen wrote: Pinkbike's feature told that the Demo will run 150mm hub and 83mm BB30 configuration.

muchentuchen wrote: Pinkbike's feature told that the Demo will run 150mm hub and 83mm BB30 configuration.

Primoz wrote: Oh, ofcourse, forgot about that, yeah. The old one was 135 and 68/72, while the new one is actually 150 and 83. So no dillemah at all!

Primoz wrote: Oh, ofcourse, forgot about that, yeah. The old one was 135 and 68/72, while the new one is actually 150 and 83. So no dillemah at all!