Shoes for use with flats and SPD?

Related:
Create New Tag

JkNMtB14

Vital MTB member JkNMtB14
21239 JkNMtB14 http://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/users/21239/avatar/c50_GOPR0211.jpg?1359317978 http://www.vitalmtb.com/community/JkNMtB14,21239/all 01/27/13 2 1

Posts: 3

Joined: 1/27/2013

Location: Morristown, NJ USA

6/3/2013 9:41 AM

When downhill biking I find that my feet keep slipping off the pedal making me bang my shins on the pins or run off the trail altogether. I was reading great things about Five ten impacts but I want to try out clipless pedals too. Point is I don't have enough money for impacts and SPD shoes so I wanted a pair that I could use for both flats and clipless. The Five ten hellcats seem nice as they have the same rubber as the impacts and I can clip them in as well. I just don't want to buy clipless shoes and clipless pedals only to find out I don't like the system. Any input is much appreciated.

SCparkstreetdirt

Vital MTB member SCparkstreetdirt
24878 SCparkstreetdirt http://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/users/24878/avatar/c50_DSC02577_1370230160.jpg?1370229998 http://www.vitalmtb.com/community/SCparkstreetdirt,24878/all 06/02/13 4 21 17

Posts: 25

Joined: 6/2/2013

Location: Aptos, CA USA

6/3/2013 3:17 PM

I have tried the 510 Minaar's before, they work great for both clipless and flats riding.

"We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. As general manager, I just can't figure out where else to play."
-Pat Williams

Big Bird

Vital MTB member Big Bird
6576 Big Bird http://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/users/6576/avatar/c50_SmileySmall.jpg?1320728633 http://www.vitalmtb.com/community/Big-Bird,6576/all 02/01/11 9 47 1096 2755 13

Posts: 1143

Joined: 2/1/2011

Location: Santa Cruz, CA USA

Moderator

6/3/2013 7:37 PM

Unless there is some new technology out there, the shoe you want isn't made. All clipless shoes that I've seen have a rubber bit that you have to tear out of the sole to expose the area where the cleat bolts on. Once you tear it out, it doesn't go back on. So you're either stuck with a cleat grinding on your flat pedal, or, if you take the cleat off, you've got a hole where grip should be.

Headshot

Vital MTB member Headshot
24048 Headshot http://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/users/24048/avatar/c50_enduro_106_1417113471.jpg?1417112494 http://www.vitalmtb.com/community/Headshot,24048/all 05/02/13 http://www.vitalmtb.com/community/Headshot,24048/setup 4 30 1 1

Posts: 4

Joined: 5/2/2013

Location: ZAF

6/4/2013 10:48 AM

the Minaars and Hellcats have a screw in piece of sole you can screw back in when you take off the cleats.

fitz

Vital MTB member fitz
23204 fitz http://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/users/23204/avatar/c50_130901_opd_0234_1383979254.jpg?1383978396 http://www.vitalmtb.com/community/fitz,23204/all 03/30/13 4 http://www.vitalmtb.com/community/fitz,23204/setup 1 7

Posts: 1

Joined: 3/30/2013

Location: bend, OR USA

6/5/2013 7:11 AM

Ive used the 661 filter spd. Setup with clips they work fine. stiff sole, easy to clip in and out. WIth flats, they suck. The tread compound is too hard and the pattern isn't right for the pins. Just letting you know, probably not your best bet.

Big Bird

Vital MTB member Big Bird
6576 Big Bird http://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/users/6576/avatar/c50_SmileySmall.jpg?1320728633 http://www.vitalmtb.com/community/Big-Bird,6576/all 02/01/11 9 47 1096 2755 13

Posts: 1143

Joined: 2/1/2011

Location: Santa Cruz, CA USA

Moderator

6/5/2013 8:24 AM

The stiff soles are another problem, even if there is a replacable cover. With clips, where your weight is all on the small cleat, the soles are made stiff to support the whole foot. For flats, you want a softer sole so that your foot sort of bends around the pedal.

JkNMtB14

Vital MTB member JkNMtB14
21239 JkNMtB14 http://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/users/21239/avatar/c50_GOPR0211.jpg?1359317978 http://www.vitalmtb.com/community/JkNMtB14,21239/all 01/27/13 2 1

Posts: 3

Joined: 1/27/2013

Location: Morristown, NJ USA

6/6/2013 4:52 PM

Okay so what I'm understanding is that there is no shoe that is soft enough for flats while still being stiff enough for clips? Anyway, I decided to buy a pair of hellcats (I found a reasonable price online). I will just use a pair of vans for when I ride flats until I can save up enough for the five ten Impacts or freeriders. But like I said I want to ride clips most of the time as I think it will help me focus on the trail instead of where my feet are. Thank you for the help everybody!

jkern620

Vital MTB member jkern620
22717 jkern620 http://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/users/22717/avatar/c50_277555_2125574426299_1454049847_2351148_784195_o.jpg?1363193649 http://www.vitalmtb.com/community/jkern620,22717/all 03/13/13 78 1 2

Posts: 1

Joined: 3/13/2013

Location: Palo Alto, CA USA

6/7/2013 8:25 PM

I just bought a pair of the 5.ten Minnars to try riding clipped in again and was surprised to see that they came with a replacement sole piece that fits in where the cleats are supposed to go and would virtually make it a flat pedal shoe. Not too sure how well it would ride with that piece in rather than its intended purpose as a clipless shoe, but this could be a good remedy to your situation

SCparkstreetdirt

Vital MTB member SCparkstreetdirt
24878 SCparkstreetdirt http://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/users/24878/avatar/c50_DSC02577_1370230160.jpg?1370229998 http://www.vitalmtb.com/community/SCparkstreetdirt,24878/all 06/02/13 4 21 17

Posts: 25

Joined: 6/2/2013

Location: Aptos, CA USA

6/8/2013 3:13 PM
Edited Date/Time: 6/8/2013 3:14 PM

JkNMtB14 wrote:

Okay so what I'm understanding is that there is no shoe that is soft enough for flats while still being stiff enough for clips? Anyway, I decided to buy a pair of hellcats (I found a reasonable price online). I will just use a pair of vans for when I ride flats until I can save up enough for the five ten Impacts or freeriders. But like I said I want to ride clips most of the time as I think it will help me focus on the trail instead of where my feet are. Thank you for the help everybody!

The Minaars are great for both. If yo have ever tried the 5 10 freeriders for flats they feel just slightly stiffer than those. And the grip compensates for the stiffness. The Minaars are definitely better than wasting your money on two shoes that won't even work as well as the Minaars. To answer your question no, you are wrong, there is a shoe stiff enough for clips and flexible enough for flats, the Minaars.

"We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. As general manager, I just can't figure out where else to play."
-Pat Williams

Big Bird

Vital MTB member Big Bird
6576 Big Bird http://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/users/6576/avatar/c50_SmileySmall.jpg?1320728633 http://www.vitalmtb.com/community/Big-Bird,6576/all 02/01/11 9 47 1096 2755 13

Posts: 1143

Joined: 2/1/2011

Location: Santa Cruz, CA USA

Moderator

6/8/2013 8:46 PM

I find myself skeptical that the Minaars are an adequate flat pedal shoe, but then I haven't ridden in them. Hell, I'm so broke I'm still running O.G. first year 5-10s with the soles flapping off.

kev.1n

Vital MTB member kev.1n
19483 kev.1n http://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/users/19483/avatar/c50_1098499_10200896117019936_578646217_n_1439397499.jpg?1439397110 http://www.vitalmtb.com/community/kev-1n,19483/all 11/01/12 1 http://www.vitalmtb.com/community/kev-1n,19483/setup 58 117

Posts: 58

Joined: 11/1/2012

Location: Flagstaff, AZ USA

6/10/2013 12:48 PM

510 Cyclones.

pretty much in exactly the same shoes as you, think I'm going to buy these shoes regardless if I go clipless or not. great protection, looks great, and they have the tried and true pattern unlike the minaars or hellcats.

Seriously up in the air between clips and flats

eh.

MtnMan

Vital MTB member MtnMan
24388 MtnMan /images/default/avatar/c50.png http://www.vitalmtb.com/community/MtnMan,24388/all 05/14/13 http://www.vitalmtb.com/community/MtnMan,24388/setup 1 4 2

Posts: 5

Joined: 5/14/2013

Location: Murrieta, CA USA

8/11/2013 7:48 AM

I wear Specialized Rockhopper shoes and I can easily switch between my flats and SPDs without removing the cleats. Love them.

sysdev1

Vital MTB member sysdev1
20064 sysdev1 /images/default/avatar/c50.png http://www.vitalmtb.com/community/sysdev1,20064/all 11/26/12 1 21 47 1

Posts: 22

Joined: 11/26/2012

Location: PHL

9/5/2013 7:58 AM

been using the 5.10 minnaar shoes in combination with saint platform pedals and xt spd trail pedals on two different bikes.

works great for me. had to remove the washers from the saint pedals though, to have longer traction pins setting.

“It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them.” - Ernest Hemingway