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BB came in at 13.5" - when under sag it was on the lower side (165mm of travel). Not shockingly low but on the lower side.
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You are right - I could have spent 3,000 words discussing the "numbers" behind the suspension as there is a lot going on. To attribute everything to one value is a bit silly - but I did my best picking the one that I felt impacted suspension/pedaling performance the most and quantifying it toward performance. Sort of an objective data point to explain a subjective feeling.
As far as multiple consecutive hits go - I do believe you can feel the same with these other designs though with a stronger compression tune it'd be a lot less evident. We're really splitting hairs over a few degrees of "angle of attack" so it's going to be subtle - but for me, apparent.
1) I can't compare directly to either of those bikes as ride time on the Nomad has been (very) limited and I've never even seen a YT in the flesh.
2) The shock "issue" is very remediable. Either by a specific tune or a shock swap. A Vivid Air would be a very good fit for this bike though the lack of a "lock out" would lead me to go to something more like a Monarch Plus. To add, as much as I hate the way a bar mounted shock lockout looks - it does function well in a race situation on this bike. A Vivid Air with a "firm" pedaling setting? Now we're talking!
This isn't information I'm privy to. I know the initial run was limited so maybe thats it? There isn't much like it so hold tight if it sounds like the bike for you!
You bring up a good point. That said, this bike is a "higher than most" pivot placement (for its intended use especially). The pivot is a good bit higher than the axle and even higher than my 34 tooth chainring (again, by a good bit). While its true the latter part of the travel is not rearward the first bit certainly is. I'll try and graph it later. Finally, I should have been more clear - I'm really splitting hairs when I'm commenting on the axle path as it is quite good.
A small tweak would make the bike a bit easier to manipulate and perhaps hold speed a tish better through certain types of trail chatter. Then again, maybe not!
As to explaining why a rearward axle path may not be ideal in successive bumps a drawing would be best. Maybe we can coax resident suspension engineer DCamp to come articulate this one. (Paging David Camp!!!)
Thanks man! If you need an clarification don't hesitate to ask. Reviewing product and developing product are two different things with a blurred line. The point here was to articulate to a would-be-buyer who this is for and if its something they should consider. I try to marry some objective reasoning data (such as anti squat numbers) with more anecdotal subjective opinion (how I liked something...) Its a tricky line to walk!
Honestly - I wouldn't plan on ever seeing too much "official" on these when it comes to reviews. The company has their little niche but by no means is trying to be a "brand". The closest you'll see is a review on the Ibis wheelset - which is fairly similar.
But yeah - in my humble opinion, go for them!
Here - I'll give you my short review: I've ridden them all season long and have had absolutely zero problems. They are light, stiff, priced right and durable (yes, I said it...). The only downside is you need to be careful with tire selection as the width can overly square off the profile. Besides this - they are awesome.
hard to tell it from a sanction (minus the 40!)
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These look great.
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This has to be some of the worst beer chugging I've ever seen.
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Canyon bringing their bikes stateside?
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How are there zero comments? Slide 10 alone is reason enough to write *something*. Man, I'm losing faith in the trinity of humanity, the internet and dudes who ride bikes everywhere... #angelface
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Listening to them talk about wheel size still makes me wonder why no company has built a purpose specific 29" DH bike for certain tracks. #yeahIsaidit #donthatethemessanger
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Best track walk slideshow to date. Nice work.
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Looks rad. Except for the 8.25 pound frame weight!?
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Awesome feature guys.
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Penguin Power - This is true, however, this is the case with any chainring swap. The Turbine sure is a lot easier than dealing with chainring bolts, spacers and the mess of other more conventional spider systems. To add, some bikes with minimal chain growth can accommodate a fairly wide range of chainrings without doing too much to the chain. Point is, the adding or subtracting links from the chain is nothing specific to this system. It is something you must do to all chain based full suspension drive-lines. It'd be unfair to knock this product based of this inherent truth.