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Liked a comment about product review 2015 Test Sessions: Fezzari Timp Peak X01 3/5/2015 12:44 PM
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the high bb thing almost makes one wonder if the bike was originally designed to be a 130/140mm bike, then marketing got involved and said "we must have a long travel carbon enduro bike! i know, let's just put a longer shock in there."

then all the engineers secretly shook their heads in the corner.

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Liked a comment about product review 2015 Test Sessions: Cannondale Jekyll Carbon Team 1/30/2015 9:55 AM
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Honestly, we found the rear shock of the Jekyll challenging (mentioned in the review), and a number of times we had issues with the rear suspension, despite following the more involved setup procedure precisely. At one point the issue presented itself after adjusting the settings in an effort to see if the suspension could be setup to ride more to our preference. At that time we returned to stock before trying again. Each time we weren't happy with the results. We also made a point to ride each bike at the recommended settings, as that is generally how the engineers intended the bike/s to shine their best. Personal preference saw us change these settings in attempts to get more of a full picture, but the Jekyll proved difficult to improve more to our liking.

It should also be noted that two different testers rode each bike, on a range of terrain, and each of us that rode the Jekyll have quite different riding styles. We both agreed without question about how this bike rode, despite different techniques, terrain etc.

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Liked a comment about product review 2015 Test Sessions: Trek Slash 9.8 Carbon 27.5 1/25/2015 9:56 AM
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"notable sources have set the M6 as the benchmark in the enduro / trail category." consider your sources. have you seen those guys ride? have they ever raced an enduro event? where did they test the bike?

imo enduro & trail are not the same thing. one is a race and the other is just riding. different demands for each. i doubt one bike can be the supposed benchmark for both.

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Liked a comment about product review 2015 Test Sessions: Trek Slash 9.8 Carbon 27.5 1/25/2015 9:55 AM
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Sooo... you're upset that the Pivot March 6 -- a brand you are passionately loyal to -- got a 3.5 star review while the Trek Slash got a 4 star review? You do realize that's only a half a star difference, right? And it's not like either got a "OMG, perfect 10/10 will-buy-again" score that would naturally invite skepticism. Talk about being critical.

Point is: if you are so happy with your Mach 6, why do you even care how the Slash or even Mach 6 scored? You already found the secret sauce that you love the taste of, why even care what the other cooks are stirring up?

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Liked a comment about product review 2015 Test Sessions: Trek Slash 9.8 Carbon 27.5 1/25/2015 9:55 AM
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Cheers for the critique, SDMTB'er.

I assure you that there are no biases toward the big boys vs the little guys. Vital has featured many very positive reviews of boutique brands, advertiser or not, including a handful of bikes made by Pivot.

There are a few distinctions that you should be aware of between the reviews. For starters, the Trek was reviewed by our 6'2" and 6'5" tall riders (as is clearly stated). The Pivot by our 5'8" and 5'10" testers. We do our best to tell you about each of the test riders in detail, something you won't find many other places. We list their height, weight, riding styles, and more. All so that you can better determine whether their experiences might mimic your own.

To clarify, regardless of the stem you put on a bike, the Reach measurement does not change. It's the horizontal distance between the center of the BB and the center of the top of the headtube. The size Large Pivot is very short - it's actually shorter than all 15 other men's bikes in our Test Sessions roundup, several of which are Mediums. The Trek has a much longer front center, somewhere near the top when comparing it to similarly sized bikes in the 160mm travel range.

Our testers will swap cockpit components as needed to improve the fit/feel of the bike, but also comment on the stock setup as well. Some bikes ride terribly with the stock stuff and are greatly improved with a wider/shorter combo. Others work well. For the tall guys, Trek's 750mm bar is far from ideal, and the 70mm stem doesn't quite align with the bike's capabilities. For the average height guys, Pivot's 755mm bar worked just fine, as did the slightly shorter 60mm stem. This is stated in both reviews. The M6 is a great bike in many respects, and we clearly describe where it excels.

Our ratings consider many factors, including value, price, build spec, geometry, weight, construction, how it climbs, how it descends, how it sprints, how it pumps, how it jumps, how the suspension performs, where it excels, where it doesn't, the little details, etc... The list is pretty exhaustive actually.

While it's easy to say that a bike review should just focus on the frame, there is so much more to how a bike rides than that. The suspension, tires, wheels, etc all come into play in a big way. Some companies do a great job with their builds, others overlook minor details that can end up having a big impact on the ride quality. If you're spending your money on it, don't you wan't to know how those things perform? In an ideal world we'd test all bikes with the exact same components and tire pressures, but that's just not how they're sold. They're each a sum of their parts, for better or worse.

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Liked a comment about product review Tested: KS LEV C Adjustable Seatpost 10/28/2014 7:36 AM
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TRex,

I appreciate the skepticism given the general nature of Vital focusing on more "aggressive" riding disciplines. I've used those Oury grips for what seems like forever, even when I lived in Oregon and it rained all the time. I really like the diameter it gives my grip and the dampening effect of the rubber (80 miles into a 100mile race every little bit helps). Yes, they kind of suck in the rain, but here in SoCal it never rains so it isn't a concern. I have a couple sets of foam grips in the garage that just sit around b/c I love me some Oury.

Do I really have six cables? Damn, you are right:
1. Front brake
2. Rear brake
3. Front derailleur
4. Rear deraileur
5. Fox Front Shock - CTD (climb, trail, descend) remote
6. LEV C KGSL Carbon Remote

Seat pack contains: 29er tube, patch kit, a dollar bill (patch tire) tire patch kit (I run tubeless, if I can patch the tire, I will), Mini-tool.

There is a Garmin 500 on the stem + heart rate monitor strap = data. I'm a computer nerd, what can I say.

Yes, two water bottles. Riding out of LA I go through about a bottle an hour. I typically ride at least 2 hours, but usually closer to 3 or 4, on a training ride. There is a refill spot up on the top of Mulholland near the Nike tower where I refill. I'd be happy to show you sometime.

I run tubeless. I also race 50 and 100 mile mtn bike races. If I get a puncture that the Stan's doesn't fill, I have to patch the tire. If the patch fails, I put a dollar bill between the tube (from the seat pack) put in the tube, and bam! back riding. I'm assuming you don't ride endurance distances, so trust me when I say an extra 29er tube is pretty useful when out in the middle of nowhere.

My jersey holds the mini-pump, keys, wallet, phone, and food. Lots of food if out for 4 -6 hours. Those three pockets fill up fast.

The big air canister - I carry a mini pump in my jersey, but it sucks pumping up a flat 29er tire with a mini-pump. Also, in the saddle bag is another CO2 cartridge. CO2 is your friend when pumping up 29" tires.

Regarding XT cranks. The whole build is XT. On purpose! Why? Going XTR adds significant cost, reduced long-term reliability, and only saves 1/4lb. Additionally, I went XT because I knew I would be riding 200+ miles a week, having to replace parts, and it is more cost effective to work with the XT product line. Additionally, in my experience, it is much less likely for XT products to spontaneously fail than XTR, and I'd hate to be in the middle of a 50 mile US Cup race and have something break.

I live in LA. You are more than welcome to ride the bike with the post and check it out. Seriously. It is an 18" frame. My bike shop is Bike Effect in Santa Monica or Pedaler's Fork in Calabasas. Tell 'em to give me a ring and we can meet out on the trail and swap bikes, or meet at the shop or something. Pedaler's Fork does a rad "Ride n' Pint" if you are ever in the area...

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Liked a comment about feature Specialized's 33.2 Pound S-Works Demo 8 Carbon Downhill Bike 10/8/2014 6:12 AM
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Be quiet! Somebody's gonna get a sack ripped open when that seat breaks and it's gonna be hilarious!

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Liked a comment about feature Specialized's 33.2 Pound S-Works Demo 8 Carbon Downhill Bike 10/8/2014 6:10 AM
Liked a comment about press release First Athlete Names Released for Inaugural Pinnacle 10-Racer Head-To-Head DH Championships 8/17/2014 7:46 AM
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except that many of the best/top DH racers are way better than you and have expressed opinions before that an event like this would be incredibly awesome. Have some faith in the world's best DH racers, they have a lot more control than you could ever imagine. This is an awesome idea for an event and if you have the slightest inclination of how gnarly motoX is or how reckless the WC DH race runs are, you'll know this will be nothing outrageous. It's like no one has ever heard of the Megavalanche event either... that's way more sketch in many regards to this idea and no, 40ft. drops doesn't mean they'll actually be dropping 40ft vert. Instead of basing negative opinions solely on press releases, how about waiting until the actual event or footage of the trail? Of course the official press releases look/sound stupid.

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